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Hey Everyone,
I'm stuck at FGC17460 (downstream from FGC3861 and FGC17465) waiting for some more informative subclades. Based on Iain's information it seems likely my ancestors migrated out of Germany towards the North Sea coast. My theory is that they then traveled west through Belgium and perhaps into Normandy. I base this on a FGC17465 Merovingian burial at Koksijde, Belgium and the Norman families de Havilland, Verdun and Battaglia who are in another branch of FGC17460. Perhaps I'm assuming too much, but it's all I got until some downstream subclades are discovered.

To the point, a recent DNA study found a significant amount of "IA French" DNA in England and I'm wondering what that could mean. Franks, Normans, Belgae?? There's a wealth of knowledge here and I'd appreciate some more learned opinions on the subject.

Thanks, Shane

Hello Shane,

I took a look at your kit.? You have certainly been with FTDNA for a long time!?
You don't have a lot of Y37>Y111 matches. There are a few that share your surname.

The FTDNA DNA Day Sale is in progress.? My recommendation is for you to directly contact all of your Y37>Y111 matches and gently encourage them to upgrade to BIG Y700.? It's better to be proactive in building your section of the BLOCK TREE, than waiting for someone to come along.

FTDNA is giving?R-FGC17460 the general date of 150 BCE.? You have more than a few private variants, but not an excessive number.? The other?R-FGC17460 kit in your subgroup at the U106 project has far more PVs than you, and fewer STR matches.? When downstream SNP branches develop, you and he will head off in different directions.

I have another recommendation regarding your most distant direct male ancestor.? You list his name and date of death in the 1600s and the general location of the United Kingdom. If you have documents that place him in the 1600s in a specific location. that info should be added to the early ancestor line.? State the dates and places where you have documented him, his son, and grandson - if you abbreviate, you should be able to indicate info on three generations on the early ancestor line.? That additional information will be useful, and interesting to your STR matches - especially when you encourage them to upgrade to BIG Y700.

Have you attempted to locate another living male from your direct male line?? When building a family SNP tree, we search for living male descendants of the most distant, documented male in the tree, via different son lines, and ask those men to take the YDNA test.? Are some of your same surname STR matches found in your distant male line family tree?

Best regards,
Connie McKenzie - U106 project co-admin

Connie,
Thanks for the reply. I've taken your advice and sent emails to my closest matches, hopefully at least one will get the Y-700 test. Multiple times I've tried to change my oldest known ancestor location, the website won't make the change. Can you explain the significance of private variants?

Thanks,
Shane