Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Columbus was not the first European to reach the New World. About six hundred years earlier, Vikings from Norway settled in Iceland, and from the Icelandic chronicles we learn that about 986 A.D. Eric
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Inventorb
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Hi, This is probably more of a myth than anything else: story of Prince Madoc ab Owain Gwynedd, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoc Ewenn Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 ¨¤ 02:36, Geoff blackburn
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Ewenn
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
This question as to when R1b (and perhaps U106) entered North America is an absolutely fascinating topic but surely it should be in its own subject string regards Geoff [email protected]> wrote:
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Geoff blackburn
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Sorry, my email hiccupped and I didn't see the previous replies before responding.
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Ian Dundas
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Are you saying that there is archeological data showing R1b existed in the Americas before "discovery" by Europeans?
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Ian Dundas
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
This statement is a cover up for bad records or guessing as dna and carbon dating doesn¡¯t lie. ¡°Eurasian haplogroup R1b should not be in the United States¡°
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Inventorb
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
If it's right that the settlement at L' Anse aux Meadows was only in use for twenty years or so, and the Viking opinion of the natives as 'skraelings' ('wretches) - who outnumbered them considerably -
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Al
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Has either Iain Macdonald or FTDNA ever discussed this possibility with you Vince [?] and this particular ancient DNA sample. It would seem important enough that someone should pick up this question
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Brian Swann
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
That Viking Settlement is known as L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse_aux_Meadows No one knows if they had left any descendants on what is now Canadian
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Vince Tilroe
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Thank you
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Susan Hedeen
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
L'Anse aux Meadows, a Unesco world heritage site in Newfoundland
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Inventorb
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
¡° Vikings had a settlement in North America exactly one thousand years ago, centuries before Christopher Columbus arrived in the Americas, a study says. Scientists say a new dating technique
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Inventorb
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Thanks, Vince.
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Joe Sprowl
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Hi Joe, FTDNA dates R-M269 to about 4350 BCE, after a very long multi-millennial population bottleneck following the Younger Dryas ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas ).? There are well
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Vince Tilroe
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Hi Vince, My wife is 75% Mexican Indian and her father is R-M269. Still trying to figure that one out. Kind regards, Joe
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Joe Sprowl
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
"First, we filter out samples with country/haplogroup combinations that don¡¯t make sense for Pre-Columbian travel. For example, Eurasian haplogroup R1b should not be in the United States, nor should
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Vince Tilroe
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
'American surrogates' - thank you Belinda, nice description. So, in accordance with the dictionary definition, we can regard your average American as 'a substitute, deputising for' a Briton. I like
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Al
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Greetings Belinda, You are certainly spot-on with your diagnosis. Please do report on any response you may receive from FTDNA. Meanwhile, with the there-and-back scenario, we are neither here, nor
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Roy
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Hi Roy I agree with you that Globetrekker has serious deficiencies, particularly in the case of R-U106 tests of German origin, like the House of Wettin or my own line R-BY96243 from Mecklenburg. The
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Belinda Dettmann
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Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
Hello all, I have followed this thread with some interest and wish to contribute a few thoughts. First, however, I should mention that I have retired from the Admin business, and would encourage
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Roy
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