Dear Chris and Jim,
Thank you for speaking up and letting us know this is happening.
As for me I hope we can save the files etc for the future. Including your incredible work that both of you have contributed. The tree would be a big loss. Peter shared ancestry HX that would be a big loss.?
This news is new for me. Perhaps for others here as well. With every group scattering in different directions our opportunity to learn more is diminishing. That is a huge loss.?
You both have weighed in with ideas. I’d defer to each of you as the experts on S6881. I have two Y700 kits but I don’t know what to do with the data.?
Why is this happening? Why is Yahoo dropping the groups???
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Fri Oct?25,?2019 12:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Hello, Everyone (I hope)
Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@...
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:55?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
OK, Just slow in posting, I guess
Fri Oct?25,?2019 2:37?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
I'll admit to being behind in bringing this up. Mostly because I have no
idea what the group wants to do. There are choices but they will probably
face the same issues that those choices did for all the other groups in the
process of moving. We can go to groups.io I guess but it isn't a free
service. We can go to Facebook but I know lots of people don't like that.
We can keep the email portion of the group but have no files. Or we can
drop the whole thing. What does anyone want to do? I still keep a
spreadsheet of where everyone is in the tree but I have a more difficult
time now that I moved my kit to Y-700. I lost over half my matches and
that's pretty much how I kept our big group tree up to date. Does anyone
feel like they are missing it? Do you get enough from the Block Tree that
FTDNA has? I, personally, prefer Alex's Big Tree but he's sounding like
he's going to quit supporting it. Anyone have any opinions they would like
to express on this? Speak up because we really do have to make some sort of
decision. Iain keeps saying he's going to get back to his Aging but I guess
life keeps getting in the way. Thanks, Jim. for bringing this up so we can
discuss it.
Chris
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:06 PM jim@... [R1b-S6881] <
R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, Everyone (I hope)
> Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list,
> with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations,
> will all disappear December 14.
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
>
> So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give
> you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing
> from Y-700 testing.
>
> Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share?
> Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
>
> This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the
> "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
>
> Jim Liptrap jim@...
>
>
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:13?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Well, it seems that Yahoo Groups is changing to an email list, and all existing Files, Photos, and Conversations will disappear on December 14. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
So what do we do? I can post the files on my website, and give everyone the link. But they are all over a year old, and show nothing from the Y-700 testing. Did we lose Iain's insights on age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share?
This was such a helpful and active group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." But we haven't had anything to share recently. As the saying goes: "Is that all there is?"
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap
Houston, Texas
jim@...
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:57?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
OK, Mr Moderator,
Please take your choice of my three posts on this topic, and delete the others. Sorry. I didn't remember that it took a half hour for a post to appear.
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:32?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Hello S6881 Group!
This is my third attempt to post this message - apparently the Yahoo
Groups website is no longer accepting reply or original messages?
Anyway, we need to decide what to do now that Yahoo Groups is closing
down to an email list. And all of our Files, Photos, and Conversations
will disappear on December 14.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
I can post the 5 files on my website, and give you all the link. But
they are all over a year old, with nothing from the Y-700 testing.
This was such an active and informative group when we first branched off
from the "Warburton One Name Project" 3 years ago.
Have we lost Iain's fine insights on the age of our SNPs? Is there any
more to share? Any more side-branches to add to the tree? Is FTDNA
closed down, so that there is no more to learn? (rhetorical question)
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap
Houston, Texas
jim@...
|
Is there any place where I can go to get a bigger picture of what is going on? I’m regretting have upgraded as it seems it was just a waste of money.?
I’d appreciate any help and guidance you can offer.
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Fri Oct?25,?2019 12:53?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Hello, Everyone (I hope)
Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@...
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:55?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
OK, Just slow in posting, I guess
Fri Oct?25,?2019 2:37?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
I'll admit to being behind in bringing this up. Mostly because I have no
idea what the group wants to do. There are choices but they will probably
face the same issues that those choices did for all the other groups in the
process of moving. We can go to groups.io I guess but it isn't a free
service. We can go to Facebook but I know lots of people don't like that.
We can keep the email portion of the group but have no files. Or we can
drop the whole thing. What does anyone want to do? I still keep a
spreadsheet of where everyone is in the tree but I have a more difficult
time now that I moved my kit to Y-700. I lost over half my matches and
that's pretty much how I kept our big group tree up to date. Does anyone
feel like they are missing it? Do you get enough from the Block Tree that
FTDNA has? I, personally, prefer Alex's Big Tree but he's sounding like
he's going to quit supporting it. Anyone have any opinions they would like
to express on this? Speak up because we really do have to make some sort of
decision. Iain keeps saying he's going to get back to his Aging but I guess
life keeps getting in the way. Thanks, Jim. for bringing this up so we can
discuss it.
Chris
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:06 PM jim@... [R1b-S6881] <
R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, Everyone (I hope)
> Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list,
> with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations,
> will all disappear December 14.
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
>
> So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give
> you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing
> from Y-700 testing.
>
> Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share?
> Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
>
> This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the
> "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
>
> Jim Liptrap jim@...
>
>
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:13?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Well, it seems that Yahoo Groups is changing to an email list, and all existing Files, Photos, and Conversations will disappear on December 14. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
So what do we do? I can post the files on my website, and give everyone the link. But they are all over a year old, and show nothing from the Y-700 testing. Did we lose Iain's insights on age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share?
This was such a helpful and active group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." But we haven't had anything to share recently. As the saying goes: "Is that all there is?"
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap
Houston, Texas
jim@...
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:57?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
OK, Mr Moderator,
Please take your choice of my three posts on this topic, and delete the others. Sorry. I didn't remember that it took a half hour for a post to appear.
Fri Oct?25,?2019 1:32?pm (PDT) . Posted by:
Hello S6881 Group!
This is my third attempt to post this message - apparently the Yahoo
Groups website is no longer accepting reply or original messages?
Anyway, we need to decide what to do now that Yahoo Groups is closing
down to an email list. And all of our Files, Photos, and Conversations
will disappear on December 14.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html?impressions=true
I can post the 5 files on my website, and give you all the link. But
they are all over a year old, with nothing from the Y-700 testing.
This was such an active and informative group when we first branched off
from the "Warburton One Name Project" 3 years ago.
Have we lost Iain's fine insights on the age of our SNPs? Is there any
more to share? Any more side-branches to add to the tree? Is FTDNA
closed down, so that there is no more to learn? (rhetorical question)
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap
Houston, Texas
jim@...
|
Hi Cynthia, I believe you should be able to save anything you want from the files section and maybe from the other sections too. I haven't tried it but I can do it in other Yahoo Groups. Save away and if it was something that I posted that you want I can always send it to you. It has been a sudden notice that they are shutting down parts of the Yahoo Groups but I guess not really unexpected. Yahoo was bought by Verizon awhile back and I guess they don't want to support the server space it takes to keep the files and archive the conversations. They do say we can still use the email functions of the groups but there won't be any site to go to to read the old emails and have files and such as I understand. If you have your Y-700 data still upload it to the Big Tree that Alex does. I can help you with that if you need it. It does still show us pretty much where we fall on the tree in relation to each other and I find that important as with FTDNA once you exceed the 30 SNP difference you can no longer see your match. I lost sight of many matches and this is the only place I can still see them. There are options to where to move to (some went to Facebook, others went to groups.io) and we could do that. But I don't know if there is enough interest in this group to move forward. Do enough people want to or are people content with the other sources they have? That would be my question. Chris On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:16 PM Cynthia Sexton prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
Dear Chris and Jim,
Thank you for speaking up and letting us know this is happening.
As for me I hope we can save the files etc for the future. Including your incredible work that both of you have contributed. The tree would be a big loss. Peter shared ancestry HX that would be a big loss.
This news is new for me. Perhaps for others here as well. With every group scattering in different directions our opportunity to learn more is diminishing. That is a huge loss.
You both have weighed in with ideas. I’d defer to each of you as the experts on S6881. I have two Y700 kits but I don’t know what to do with the data.
Why is this happening? Why is Yahoo dropping the groups??
On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:08 AM, R1b-S6881@... wrote:
? [image: Yahoo! Groups] <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbTU0NG1uBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> R1b-S6881-Project Group <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYTdkYTlxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> 6 Messages Digest #70 1a Re: R-S6881 News? <#m_5017577518006653176_1a> by jliptrap77379 1b Re: R-S6881 News? <#m_5017577518006653176_1b> by jliptrap77379 1c Re: R-S6881 News? <#m_5017577518006653176_1c> by "Chris Noble" cerri37 2a What Now? <#m_5017577518006653176_2a> by jliptrap77379 2b Re: What Now? <#m_5017577518006653176_2b> by jliptrap77379 3 Where Now? <#m_5017577518006653176_3> by "jim" jliptrap77379
Messages 1a Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxOW4yNnZtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> Hello, Everyone (I hope) Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14.
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@... Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMWJmajkwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=221> . All Messages (24) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MjI1djg4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMxOTY-> . Top ^ <#m_5017577518006653176_toc> 1b Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMWM0Y2loBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> OK, Just slow in posting, I guess Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcWkyMTFiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=224> . All Messages (24) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0dXM3ZWR1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMxOTY-> . Top ^ <#m_5017577518006653176_toc> 1c Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcWNnbGh2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Chris Noble" cerri37 <avalea3@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> I'll admit to being behind in bringing this up. Mostly because I have no idea what the group wants to do. There are choices but they will probably face the same issues that those choices did for all the other groups in the process of moving. We can go to groups.io I guess but it isn't a free service. We can go to Facebook but I know lots of people don't like that. We can keep the email portion of the group but have no files. Or we can drop the whole thing. What does anyone want to do? I still keep a spreadsheet of where everyone is in the tree but I have a more difficult time now that I moved my kit to Y-700. I lost over half my matches and that's pretty much how I kept our big group tree up to date. Does anyone feel like they are missing it? Do you get enough from the Block Tree that FTDNA has? I, personally, prefer Alex's Big Tree but he's sounding like he's going to quit supporting it. Anyone have any opinions they would like to express on this? Speak up because we really do have to make some sort of decision. Iain keeps saying he's going to get back to his Aging but I guess life keeps getting in the way. Thanks, Jim. for bringing this up so we can discuss it.
Chris
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:06 PM jim@... [R1b-S6881] < R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
Hello, Everyone (I hope) Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14.
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@...
Reply to sender <[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZmRpNHFhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=226> . All Messages (24) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0djEyYXA4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMxOTY-> . Top ^ <#m_5017577518006653176_toc> 2a What Now? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcWl2MGp2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjIEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> Well, it seems that Yahoo Groups is changing to an email list, and all existing Files, Photos, and Conversations will disappear on December 14.
So what do we do? I can post the files on my website, and give everyone the link. But they are all over a year old, and show nothing from the Y-700 testing. Did we lose Iain's insights on age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share?
This was such a helpful and active group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." But we haven't had anything to share recently. As the saying goes: "Is that all there is?"
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap Houston, Texas jim@...
Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbzBjZWk1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjIEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=222> . All Messages (2) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MXNnbzhzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjIEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMyMjI-> . Top ^ <#m_5017577518006653176_toc> 2b Re: What Now? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMTd2Nzk1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjUEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> OK, Mr Moderator, Please take your choice of my three posts on this topic, and delete the others. Sorry. I didn't remember that it took a half hour for a post to appear.
Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20Now%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcmZsbmQwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjUEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=225> . All Messages (2) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0M2lzbTBhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjUEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMyMjI-> . Top ^ <#m_5017577518006653176_toc> 3 Where Now? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZ2tnbWtxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjMEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "jim" jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20Where%20Now%3F> Hello S6881 Group! This is my third attempt to post this message - apparently the Yahoo Groups website is no longer accepting reply or original messages?
Anyway, we need to decide what to do now that Yahoo Groups is closing down to an email list. And all of our Files, Photos, and Conversations will disappear on December 14.
I can post the 5 files on my website, and give you all the link. But they are all over a year old, with nothing from the Y-700 testing.
This was such an active and informative group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project" 3 years ago.
Have we lost Iain's fine insights on the age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share? Any more side-branches to add to the tree? Is FTDNA closed down, so that there is no more to learn? (rhetorical question)
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap Houston, Texas jim@...
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Hi Cynthia, I'm not sure which bigger picture you are referring to. Bigger picture of what is happening with Yahoo Groups or a bigger picture of a Y-700 update? I worked on Grady's results and I'm almost finished. I'll share it with you soon. Chris On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:36 PM Cynthia Sexton prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
Is there any place where I can go to get a bigger picture of what is going on? I’m regretting have upgraded as it seems it was just a waste of money.
I’d appreciate any help and guidance you can offer.
On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:08 AM, R1b-S6881@... wrote:
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Messages 1a Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxOW4yNnZtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> Hello, Everyone (I hope) Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14.
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@... Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMWJmajkwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=221> . All Messages (24) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MjI1djg4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjEEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMxOTY-> . Top ^ <#m_-7660842660953086078_toc> 1b Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMWM0Y2loBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by: jliptrap77379 <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> OK, Just slow in posting, I guess Reply to sender <jim@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply to group <R1b-S6881@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> . Reply via Web Post <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcWkyMTFiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--?act=reply&messageNum=224> . All Messages (24) <;_ylc=X3oDMTM0dXM3ZWR1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQR0cGNJZAMxOTY-> . Top ^ <#m_-7660842660953086078_toc> 1c Re: R-S6881 News? <;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcWNnbGh2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzkyMzY2NjE2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTE4Nzk4MgRtc2dJZAMyMjYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTU3MjA3MDEwMQ--> Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Chris Noble" cerri37 <avalea3@...?subject=Re%3A%20R-S6881%20News%3F> I'll admit to being behind in bringing this up. Mostly because I have no idea what the group wants to do. There are choices but they will probably face the same issues that those choices did for all the other groups in the process of moving. We can go to groups.io I guess but it isn't a free service. We can go to Facebook but I know lots of people don't like that. We can keep the email portion of the group but have no files. Or we can drop the whole thing. What does anyone want to do? I still keep a spreadsheet of where everyone is in the tree but I have a more difficult time now that I moved my kit to Y-700. I lost over half my matches and that's pretty much how I kept our big group tree up to date. Does anyone feel like they are missing it? Do you get enough from the Block Tree that FTDNA has? I, personally, prefer Alex's Big Tree but he's sounding like he's going to quit supporting it. Anyone have any opinions they would like to express on this? Speak up because we really do have to make some sort of decision. Iain keeps saying he's going to get back to his Aging but I guess life keeps getting in the way. Thanks, Jim. for bringing this up so we can discuss it.
Chris
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:06 PM jim@... [R1b-S6881] < R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
Hello, Everyone (I hope) Well, it seems that "Yahoo Groups" is closing down to just an email list, with nothing saved in "Groups." Existing Files, Photos, Conversations, will all disappear December 14.
So what do we want to do? I can store the files on my website, and give you-all a link, but the information is all over a year old - and nothing from Y-700 testing.
Have we lost Iain's future insights? Do we have anything else to share? Should we each just download what we need and call it quits?
This was such a helpful group when we started, and branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap jim@...
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So what do we do? I can post the files on my website, and give everyone the link. But they are all over a year old, and show nothing from the Y-700 testing. Did we lose Iain's insights on age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share?
This was such a helpful and active group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project." But we haven't had anything to share recently. As the saying goes: "Is that all there is?"
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap Houston, Texas jim@...
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Anyway, we need to decide what to do now that Yahoo Groups is closing down to an email list. And all of our Files, Photos, and Conversations will disappear on December 14.
I can post the 5 files on my website, and give you all the link. But they are all over a year old, with nothing from the Y-700 testing.
This was such an active and informative group when we first branched off from the "Warburton One Name Project" 3 years ago.
Have we lost Iain's fine insights on the age of our SNPs? Is there any more to share? Any more side-branches to add to the tree? Is FTDNA closed down, so that there is no more to learn? (rhetorical question)
Where do we go from here?
Jim Liptrap Houston, Texas jim@...
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