Thanks Chris.

I just did get 2 emails in fact from them. Says the same thing so I don't know why I got two but... I'm glad you see it.? Thanks for the reply :D

Mary

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----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Noble <avalea3@...>

Reply-To: <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>

Sent: 12/9/2019 5:08:11 PM

Subject: Re: [R1b-S6881] Data Warehouse upload

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You should get an email from them when it is picked up. But I see that it is there. Thanks!

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:01 PM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:

Hi Chris,
I think I got this right. I just uploaded Keith's BigY700 from Dropbox.? How do I check to be sure it went there, or is there a way?? Thanks Mary

Hi Chris,
I think I got this right. I just uploaded Keith's BigY700 from Dropbox.? How do I check to be sure it went there, or is there a way?? Thanks Mary

I filled out the form... then met my challenge of the download.

Might this be a link ??? If not then I’ll need your help

416674_SNPs_20191209.csv

I hate being so lame with this...?

On Dec 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

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If you have problems I can do it for you with access to your account. But it isn't really hard except that FTDNA is no longer giving a link to share the data as they used to and you have to actually save the zipped file on your computer and then upload that file which the warehouse doesn't like as well as a link. If you are computer proficient and use something like dropbox you can share the link from there to the warehouse but I'm going to assume most of our members aren't doing things that way. Thanks.

Chris

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Gosh I still haven’t done that for Grady or Roy.?

I’ll try tonight. Wish me luck!

On Dec 9, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?Please remember as you get your Y700 results to upload your data to the Data Warehouse if you wish to share your results with the U106 admins and some others. If you never uploaded your Y500 data you can do that too. The instructions from the U106 project are below. If you have any issues or questions let me know. Thanks.

Scroll down on your FTDNA page to Big Y Results. Click on that, then look to the far right, and click on the blue Download Raw Data button. Then, in the pop-up window, towards the left, click on the green Download VCF button. Then upload the zipped file, as it is, to the “Y-DNA Data Warehouse”:
Joining this effort will help us research your particular clade, identifying new relationships closer to the present day. We work with other haplogroup projects, Family Tree DNA and external organizations to make your new clades known worldwide. Over 1000 of you have already participated.

Hi Chris,

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Michael Dyer Brooks, FTDNA Kit 100257, VCF zip file has been uploaded to ydna warehouse.

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I don’t read all of the emails going on here but felt it important that I provide my info.

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Thank you for all of your efforts!

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Michael Brooks

Descended from Henry Brooks of Concord & Woburn 1592-1683

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Noble via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R1b-S6881] Data Warehouse upload

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Please remember as you get your Y700 results to upload your data to the Data Warehouse if you wish to share your results with the U106 admins and some others. If you never uploaded your Y500 data you can do that too. The instructions from the U106 project are below. If you have any issues or questions let me know. Thanks.

Scroll down on your FTDNA page to Big Y Results. Click on that, then look to the far right, and click on the blue Download Raw Data button. Then, in the pop-up window, towards the left, click on the green Download VCF button. Then upload the zipped file, as it is, to the “Y-DNA Data Warehouse”:
Joining this effort will help us research your particular clade, identifying new relationships closer to the present day. We work with other haplogroup projects, Family Tree DNA and external organizations to make your new clades known worldwide. Over 1000 of you have already participated.

Gosh I still haven’t done that for Grady or Roy.?

I’ll try tonight. Wish me luck!

On Dec 9, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?Please remember as you get your Y700 results to upload your data to the Data Warehouse if you wish to share your results with the U106 admins and some others. If you never uploaded your Y500 data you can do that too. The instructions from the U106 project are below. If you have any issues or questions let me know. Thanks.

Scroll down on your FTDNA page to Big Y Results. Click on that, then look to the far right, and click on the blue Download Raw Data button. Then, in the pop-up window, towards the left, click on the green Download VCF button. Then upload the zipped file, as it is, to the “Y-DNA Data Warehouse”:
Joining this effort will help us research your particular clade, identifying new relationships closer to the present day. We work with other haplogroup projects, Family Tree DNA and external organizations to make your new clades known worldwide. Over 1000 of you have already participated.

Chis,?

If you have an answer to Jeff’s question even just a hint I’d love to know that about Roy, Grady and Wm.?

I know how busy you are and you are seeing how enthusiastic we are BUT no pressure.

Get back to us when things quiet down for you. That matters most.?

Warmly?

Cynthia?

On Dec 8, 2019, at 8:47 AM, rwdrive <rwdrive@...> wrote:

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Hello Chris,

For me, that explanation was amazing.? It really makes and i have much better understanding.

I do have one question, with that data, what is your best guess on how many generations are there between Keith and Johns MCRA and the MCRA for the 3 of us?

Thank you!?

Jeff

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 11:38 PM Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

Okay, let's see if this makes more sense. There is the old spreadsheet in the files section but below is a piece of the new one I'm working on. The columns go in the order of Keith, John, and then Jeff. The SNPs are in order from oldest in time to youngest shared SNPs. Starting with the block of SNPs at S6881, you'll see how they all match each other by testing positive for all the same SNPs until they come to what used to be a block of 3 SNPs. Now it is just a block of two because Keith and John tested positive for BY12294 and Jeff tested negative for it. So I'm going to explain a couple of things here. A block of SNPs (I use dark lines around them when they are a block) is an equivalent group because everyone who has tested who has those SNPs has tested positive for all of the ones in the block. Because of this, they can't tell which one came first or second or third or however many SNPs are in that block. It takes someone to come along and test positive for some and not for others for the block to be broken and them being able to say what order the SNPs come in. So for the previous block of SNPs BY16322, BY16323, and BY122994, it was a block of three because the only ones who had tested positive for them were Keith and John. There was no way to tell what order the SNPs fell in. Now that Jeff came along and tested positive for SNPs BY16322 and BY16323 and negative for BY122994 they know that BY122994 came later in the tree since all three men shared the first two in the block but only two share the last one. So besides helping to show what order that SNP came in it also shows that Jeff broke away from Keith and John's lines at this SNP and went his own way with his own SNPs. Keith and John continued to share that one more SNP, BY122994, before they too broke away from each other and went on with their own SNPs. So Keith and John last shared an ancestor at BY122994 and Jeff last shares an ancestor with them at the block of BY16322 and BY16323. We have no way to tell which order those two SNPs go until someone comes along that will test positive for one of them and negative for the other. If Jeff were to find someone more closely related to himself than Keith and John are some of his private SNPs would probably match that closer match and his haplogroup would change and those new SNPs would show up on the tree. As long as only one person has tested positive for an SNP it won't be on the tree. It takes two people for it to show up. Let me know if this is making sense or if I need to explain it differently.

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On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:04 PM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:

Wow Chris,? You helped me a bit with this note to Jeff. Yes and no...because I don't quite understand either.? What do you mean that this is "where you broke off from their two lines"?? When you explain things to Jeff please include me too, I'll bet Cynthia would like to be included as well for John Joseph.? So glad to have you back.
Mary

Hello Chris,

For me, that explanation was amazing.? It really makes and i have much better understanding.

I do have one question, with that data, what is your best guess on how many generations are there between Keith and Johns MCRA and the MCRA for the 3 of us?

Thank you!?

Jeff

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 11:38 PM Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

Okay, let's see if this makes more sense. There is the old spreadsheet in the files section but below is a piece of the new one I'm working on. The columns go in the order of Keith, John, and then Jeff. The SNPs are in order from oldest in time to youngest shared SNPs. Starting with the block of SNPs at S6881, you'll see how they all match each other by testing positive for all the same SNPs until they come to what used to be a block of 3 SNPs. Now it is just a block of two because Keith and John tested positive for BY12294 and Jeff tested negative for it. So I'm going to explain a couple of things here. A block of SNPs (I use dark lines around them when they are a block) is an equivalent group because everyone who has tested who has those SNPs has tested positive for all of the ones in the block. Because of this, they can't tell which one came first or second or third or however many SNPs are in that block. It takes someone to come along and test positive for some and not for others for the block to be broken and them being able to say what order the SNPs come in. So for the previous block of SNPs BY16322, BY16323, and BY122994, it was a block of three because the only ones who had tested positive for them were Keith and John. There was no way to tell what order the SNPs fell in. Now that Jeff came along and tested positive for SNPs BY16322 and BY16323 and negative for BY122994 they know that BY122994 came later in the tree since all three men shared the first two in the block but only two share the last one. So besides helping to show what order that SNP came in it also shows that Jeff broke away from Keith and John's lines at this SNP and went his own way with his own SNPs. Keith and John continued to share that one more SNP, BY122994, before they too broke away from each other and went on with their own SNPs. So Keith and John last shared an ancestor at BY122994 and Jeff last shares an ancestor with them at the block of BY16322 and BY16323. We have no way to tell which order those two SNPs go until someone comes along that will test positive for one of them and negative for the other. If Jeff were to find someone more closely related to himself than Keith and John are some of his private SNPs would probably match that closer match and his haplogroup would change and those new SNPs would show up on the tree. As long as only one person has tested positive for an SNP it won't be on the tree. It takes two people for it to show up. Let me know if this is making sense or if I need to explain it differently.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:04 PM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:

Wow Chris,? You helped me a bit with this note to Jeff. Yes and no...because I don't quite understand either.? What do you mean that this is "where you broke off from their two lines"?? When you explain things to Jeff please include me too, I'll bet Cynthia would like to be included as well for John Joseph.? So glad to have you back.
Mary

Okay, let's see if this makes more sense. There is the old spreadsheet in the files section but below is a piece of the new one I'm working on. The columns go in the order of Keith, John, and then Jeff. The SNPs are in order from oldest in time to youngest shared SNPs. Starting with the block of SNPs at S6881, you'll see how they all match each other by testing positive for all the same SNPs until they come to what used to be a block of 3 SNPs. Now it is just a block of two because Keith and John tested positive for BY12294 and Jeff tested negative for it. So I'm going to explain a couple of things here. A block of SNPs (I use dark lines around them when they are a block) is an equivalent group because everyone who has tested who has those SNPs has tested positive for all of the ones in the block. Because of this, they can't tell which one came first or second or third or however many SNPs are in that block. It takes someone to come along and test positive for some and not for others for the block to be broken and them being able to say what order the SNPs come in. So for the previous block of SNPs BY16322, BY16323, and BY122994, it was a block of three because the only ones who had tested positive for them were Keith and John. There was no way to tell what order the SNPs fell in. Now that Jeff came along and tested positive for SNPs BY16322 and BY16323 and negative for BY122994 they know that BY122994 came later in the tree since all three men shared the first two in the block but only two share the last one. So besides helping to show what order that SNP came in it also shows that Jeff broke away from Keith and John's lines at this SNP and went his own way with his own SNPs. Keith and John continued to share that one more SNP, BY122994, before they too broke away from each other and went on with their own SNPs. So Keith and John last shared an ancestor at BY122994 and Jeff last shares an ancestor with them at the block of BY16322 and BY16323. We have no way to tell which order those two SNPs go until someone comes along that will test positive for one of them and negative for the other. If Jeff were to find someone more closely related to himself than Keith and John are some of his private SNPs would probably match that closer match and his haplogroup would change and those new SNPs would show up on the tree. As long as only one person has tested positive for an SNP it won't be on the tree. It takes two people for it to show up. Let me know if this is making sense or if I need to explain it differently.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:04 PM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:

Wow Chris,? You helped me a bit with this note to Jeff. Yes and no...because I don't quite understand either.? What do you mean that this is "where you broke off from their two lines"?? When you explain things to Jeff please include me too, I'll bet Cynthia would like to be included as well for John Joseph.? So glad to have you back.
Mary

Wow Chris,? You helped me a bit with this note to Jeff. Yes and no...because I don't quite understand either.? What do you mean that this is "where you broke off from their two lines"?? When you explain things to Jeff please include me too, I'll bet Cynthia would like to be included as well for John Joseph.? So glad to have you back.
Mary