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Re: S6881 Tree

 

Makes sense, thanks Chris.?
Jeff Graves?

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 10:26 AM Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
? I did forget to say when I posted that file that the dates on the right edge are back from when Iain proposed them in 2017. I just left them on for reference. A lot has changed in the tree but he hasn't been able to work on them since then though but he talks about working on them again soon. I've also heard that FTDNA might start their own aging process on SNPs. When Iain proposed that date there were only two matches and a larger block of unbroken SNPs. Now that the block has been broken and there are three of you I'm sure the date would change. But there was always a large variance in that date (meaning hundreds of years possible in either direction) so take the date with a grain of salt and figure it's just a date that says "somewhere around this time give or take". Hopefully, we'll have a better idea this year if they get aging going again.

Chris

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:37 AM Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:
Hello Chris,
First, thank you for all the great information you have pulled together. I do have a question on this tree doc.? I have the SNP BY16322.? There is a column labeled SNP Origin Date valued at 1814.? What does that mean?? For the 3 men listed with it, does it suggest a shared ancestor at that time?
Thanks !
Jeff Graves



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 10:54 PM Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:
I have so many I don’t know where to begin. Others here know so much more than me. So. My plan is to find my first few questions and go from there, wanting them to be useful to others too.?

My daughter has returned to school so I’ll have more time this weekend.?


Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?We can store anything we want in the files section. We could do a Q&A file of questions and answers. But at this point though no one has asked any ?

Chris

On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

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If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

For anyone looking for the file section on our new groups.io site and having problems, you can find it here. Thanks.

/g/R1b-S6881/files


Re: S6881 Tree

 

Hi Jeff,
? I did forget to say when I posted that file that the dates on the right edge are back from when Iain proposed them in 2017. I just left them on for reference. A lot has changed in the tree but he hasn't been able to work on them since then though but he talks about working on them again soon. I've also heard that FTDNA might start their own aging process on SNPs. When Iain proposed that date there were only two matches and a larger block of unbroken SNPs. Now that the block has been broken and there are three of you I'm sure the date would change. But there was always a large variance in that date (meaning hundreds of years possible in either direction) so take the date with a grain of salt and figure it's just a date that says "somewhere around this time give or take". Hopefully, we'll have a better idea this year if they get aging going again.

Chris


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:37 AM Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:
Hello Chris,
First, thank you for all the great information you have pulled together. I do have a question on this tree doc.? I have the SNP BY16322.? There is a column labeled SNP Origin Date valued at 1814.? What does that mean?? For the 3 men listed with it, does it suggest a shared ancestor at that time?
Thanks !
Jeff Graves



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 10:54 PM Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:
I have so many I don’t know where to begin. Others here know so much more than me. So. My plan is to find my first few questions and go from there, wanting them to be useful to others too.?

My daughter has returned to school so I’ll have more time this weekend.?


Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?We can store anything we want in the files section. We could do a Q&A file of questions and answers. But at this point though no one has asked any ?

Chris

On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?
If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

Hello Chris,
First, thank you for all the great information you have pulled together. I do have a question on this tree doc.? I have the SNP BY16322.? There is a column labeled SNP Origin Date valued at 1814.? What does that mean?? For the 3 men listed with it, does it suggest a shared ancestor at that time?
Thanks !
Jeff Graves



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 10:54 PM Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:
I have so many I don’t know where to begin. Others here know so much more than me. So. My plan is to find my first few questions and go from there, wanting them to be useful to others too.?

My daughter has returned to school so I’ll have more time this weekend.?


Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?We can store anything we want in the files section. We could do a Q&A file of questions and answers. But at this point though no one has asked any ?

Chris

On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?
If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

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I have so many I don’t know where to begin. Others here know so much more than me. So. My plan is to find my first few questions and go from there, wanting them to be useful to others too.?

My daughter has returned to school so I’ll have more time this weekend.?


Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?We can store anything we want in the files section. We could do a Q&A file of questions and answers. But at this point though no one has asked any ?

Chris

On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?
If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

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We can store anything we want in the files section. We could do a Q&A file of questions and answers. But at this point though no one has asked any ?

Chris

On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?
If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

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Chris,?

If there are questions and you respond I’ll bet that all of us would like to read what you say. Is there a place on the new site where the q&a could be stored? That might be too complicated though. Your thoughts...

Cynthia



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?
If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

If it doesn't make sense to anyone you just need to ask and I'll explain what it is. Thanks.

Chris


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Wiredmarys <wiredmarys@...> wrote:
Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

Thanks so much for this and all your help.? I'd be lost without it.
Mary E


Re: S6881 Tree

 

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Thank you Chris for providing us with this tool. Remember when S6881 had a membership of 8!

Now folks can find our group.io more easily. May we all learn more during this coming year!!

On Jan 6, 2020, at 1:45 PM, James Liptrap <jim@...> wrote:

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Thank you, Chris

Happy New Year


Re: S6881 Tree

 

Thank you, Chris

Happy New Year


S6881 Tree

 

I have posted the most recent version of the S6881 tree that I keep based on BigY testing. Since FTDNA limits us to seeing only matches who we have less than 30 SNP mismatches with we lose sight of a lot of the group. For this reason, I put together an Excel spreadsheet type tree with as many of the results as I know. It is quite large with over 70 testers. I'm sharing it in the files section for anyone else who wants to use it.

Chris


Re: Data Warehouse upload

 

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If you have the time you might go back through the messages there and read what Dr. Iain McDonald has posted in the last month or so. He wrote a lot about figuring ages of SNPs and where our group in ancient time may have originated. That’s not going to solve your brick wall but it’s fascinating to see where we may have come from. If you have questions about any of it you can either ask here or there.?

Chris

On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:06 AM, Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:

Chris, I have joined the u106 group.? Thanks for recommend it??


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Chris, I have joined the u106 group.? Thanks for recommending it


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That’s good news. We’ll have to see if anything changes.?

Chris

On Dec 9, 2019, at 8:56 PM, Cynthia Sexton <cynthia8910@...> wrote:

Chris, Mary and Jeff,

I just upgraded John’s kit to BigY 700, he gave me permission last month but I had missed the holiday discount, it is on again! (189.) Just sent him an email with the update.

I now know how to upload results, thank you Chris !!!


Cynthia?

On Dec 9, 2019, at 11:22 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?In our group there is a file about Iain’s speculations about SNP ages in our part of the tree but that’s not what I was referring to (though it is interesting). S6881 is on the tree under the major SNP U106 and you should join that group too. Check on your FTDNA account and make sure you’ve joined there. I can give you the link if you haven’t. They have the discussion part of that group (like the discussions we have here) separate from FTDNA. You can join here: [email protected]
Let me know if that doesn’t work.?

Chris

On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:

Thanks Chris.? I think i am in there now.? I see under 'files' a liam age speculation document.... guessing thats what you are referring by discussion group.? You are right on my interet area on aging SNPs.? If not please let me know as i am not seeing anything labeled as discussions. I have an ancestor brick wall that I wont give up trying to crack.??


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Chris, Mary and Jeff,

I just upgraded John’s kit to BigY 700, he gave me permission last month but I had missed the holiday discount, it is on again! (189.) Just sent him an email with the update.

I now know how to upload results, thank you Chris !!!


Cynthia?

On Dec 9, 2019, at 11:22 PM, Chris Noble <avalea3@...> wrote:

?In our group there is a file about Iain’s speculations about SNP ages in our part of the tree but that’s not what I was referring to (though it is interesting). S6881 is on the tree under the major SNP U106 and you should join that group too. Check on your FTDNA account and make sure you’ve joined there. I can give you the link if you haven’t. They have the discussion part of that group (like the discussions we have here) separate from FTDNA. You can join here: [email protected]
Let me know if that doesn’t work.?

Chris

On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:

Thanks Chris.? I think i am in there now.? I see under 'files' a liam age speculation document.... guessing thats what you are referring by discussion group.? You are right on my interet area on aging SNPs.? If not please let me know as i am not seeing anything labeled as discussions. I have an ancestor brick wall that I wont give up trying to crack.??


Re: Data Warehouse upload

 

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In our group there is a file about Iain’s speculations about SNP ages in our part of the tree but that’s not what I was referring to (though it is interesting). S6881 is on the tree under the major SNP U106 and you should join that group too. Check on your FTDNA account and make sure you’ve joined there. I can give you the link if you haven’t. They have the discussion part of that group (like the discussions we have here) separate from FTDNA. You can join here: [email protected]
Let me know if that doesn’t work.?

Chris

On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Jeff Graves <rwdrive@...> wrote:

Thanks Chris.? I think i am in there now.? I see under 'files' a liam age speculation document.... guessing thats what you are referring by discussion group.? You are right on my interet area on aging SNPs.? If not please let me know as i am not seeing anything labeled as discussions. I have an ancestor brick wall that I wont give up trying to crack.??


Re: Data Warehouse upload

 

Thanks Chris.? I think i am in there now.? I see under 'files' a liam age speculation document.... guessing thats what you are referring by discussion group.? You are right on my interet area on aging SNPs.? If not please let me know as i am not seeing anything labeled as discussions. I have an ancestor brick wall that I wont give up trying to crack.??


Re: Data Warehouse upload

 

Great, Jeff! I'm hoping they are still updating the Big Tree. Alex was talking about not doing it anymore but the U106 admins said they still use the data in the Data Warehouse so I at least want it there for them. We'll see how it plays out.

Did you join the discussion part of the U106 group? It's another group like this one. I think I saw you on the U106 spreadsheet at FTDNA but the discussion part of that group is here on . If you haven't joined it you should. There has been a lot of stuff going on that you'll probably want to ignore but Iain has been posting about aging SNPs and you might want to follow that kind of thing.

Chris


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:52 PM rwdrive <rwdrive@...> wrote:
Hello Chris,
Looks like i was successful at uploading my results.? Thank you for all your guidance.
Jeff Graves


Re: Data Warehouse upload

 

Hello Chris,
Looks like i was successful at uploading my results.? Thank you for all your guidance.
Jeff Graves