#852

Hello cousins!?
Does anyone in the group have success stories to share, whether in the y line or aDNA? It might inspire some upgrades that could help the group :).
For me, and I am American for context, my father's family always identified as Irish Catholic but with a surname that seemed at odds (Adams). Indepedent of DNA testing, via research and family lore, I found cousins in Armagh who said we were Quakers who converted to Catholicism in the late 18th century. Via DNA, I found a Scottish origin between the 1100s and 1200s, centered around Renfrewshire. Via this group's research, I suspect an early medieval Irish Gaelic origin, possibly from the Cianachta.?
On other lines, I sorted between two 18th century Campbell lines in colonial Virginia, found an ancestral "Indian princess" US line and found my wife's unexpected Jamaican African roots.
Anyone else have useful revelations to share??

#853

Way to go Michael -- for not only extending your DNA results, but also for finding a good topic with which to generate some action on this group forum.

I've been getting my DNA tested for about a decade now -- getting upgraded tests whenever they become available -- but the most useful results have come from document searches. All that DNA has given me so far is ideas about where to look for documents, but with a paternal line all surnamed Jones, and DNA that points solidly to the Irish O'Connell's, coupled with the holes in the Irish documentary record, I'm not sure how to connect all of my dots.

Since the other three quarters of my ancestry are Scotch-Irish, north German and Rhineland German, I've been able to assemble paper trails that go back a lot farther -- to the 1670s in one case -- not bad for a family tree full of peasants. It helps that 1) I am fluent in both German and English, and 2) I am a retired history professor who is still pretty good at researching paper sources.

But if anyone reading this recognizes the name Isaac Jones, born July 5, 1802 "near London" according to his Iowa obituary (probably in St. Sepulchre parish and probably to Issac and Prudence Jones who were married on Nov. 22, 1796), I'd love to know whatever you know.

And good luck to all of you.

Jim Jones

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Jim,

If you have nod done already, I suggest you need to persuade / induce the owner of O'Connell kit B581065 to test Big Y-700. (He is in the Munster Irish Project). This will at least give you a better grip on the earliest data you became a Jones.

Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy

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Way to go Michael -- for not only extending your DNA results, but also for finding a good topic with which to generate some action on this group forum.

I've been getting my DNA tested for about a decade now -- getting upgraded tests whenever they become available -- but the most useful results have come from document searches. All that DNA has given me so far is ideas about where to look for documents, but with a paternal line all surnamed Jones, and DNA that points solidly to the Irish O'Connell's, coupled with the holes in the Irish documentary record, I'm not sure how to connect all of my dots.

Since the other three quarters of my ancestry are Scotch-Irish, north German and Rhineland German, I've been able to assemble paper trails that go back a lot farther -- to the 1670s in one case -- not bad for a family tree full of peasants. It helps that 1) I am fluent in both German and English, and 2) I am a retired history professor who is still pretty good at researching paper sources.

But if anyone reading this recognizes the name Isaac Jones, born July 5, 1802 "near London" according to his Iowa obituary (probably in St. Sepulchre parish and probably to Issac and Prudence Jones who were married on Nov. 22, 1796), I'd love to know whatever you know.

And good luck to all of you.

Jim Jones

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Hi Nigel,

Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand the connection you are referring to...between me, O'Connell kit B581065 and "becoming a Jones"???

Can you explain?

Thanks,

Jim

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Nigel McCarthy <ndmccarthy10@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 2:38 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Success stories

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Jim,

If you have nod done already, I suggest you need to persuade / induce the owner of O'Connell kit B581065 to test Big Y-700. (He is in the Munster Irish Project). This will at least give you a better grip on the earliest data you became a Jones.

Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of sahara27@... via groups.io <sahara27@...>
Sent: 09 July 2024 23:16
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Success stories

?

Way to go Michael -- for not only extending your DNA results, but also for finding a good topic with which to generate some action on this group forum.

I've been getting my DNA tested for about a decade now -- getting upgraded tests whenever they become available -- but the most useful results have come from document searches. All that DNA has given me so far is ideas about where to look for documents, but with a paternal line all surnamed Jones, and DNA that points solidly to the Irish O'Connell's, coupled with the holes in the Irish documentary record, I'm not sure how to connect all of my dots.

Since the other three quarters of my ancestry are Scotch-Irish, north German and Rhineland German, I've been able to assemble paper trails that go back a lot farther -- to the 1670s in one case -- not bad for a family tree full of peasants. It helps that 1) I am fluent in both German and English, and 2) I am a retired history professor who is still pretty good at researching paper sources.

But if anyone reading this recognizes the name Isaac Jones, born July 5, 1802 "near London" according to his Iowa obituary (probably in St. Sepulchre parish and probably to Issac and Prudence Jones who were married on Nov. 22, 1796), I'd love to know whatever you know.

And good luck to all of you.

Jim Jones

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Jim (Crowley),

I was addressing the connection Jim (Jones) has with the O'Connells. A confusion of two Jims?

On my current tree his most recent Big Y-700 match with an O'Connell has a 'Guide' date of 1205 A.D.? However, he subsequently shares four STR mutations with another O'Connell. A Big Y-700 test on the latter would yield a more recent MRCA date for his O'Connell ancestry (whoever provides the date estimate).

Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy??

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From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James Crowley via groups.io <seamuscrow@...>
Sent:?13 July 2024 17:38
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Subject:?Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Success stories

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Hi Nigel,

Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand the connection you are referring to...between me, O'Connell kit B581065 and "becoming a Jones"???

Can you explain?

Thanks,

Jim

From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Nigel McCarthy <ndmccarthy10@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, July 10, 2024 2:38 PM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Success stories

?

Jim,

If you have nod done already, I suggest you need to persuade / induce the owner of O'Connell kit B581065 to test Big Y-700. (He is in the Munster Irish Project). This will at least give you a better grip on the earliest data you became a Jones.

Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy

From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of sahara27@... via groups.io <sahara27@...>
Sent:?09 July 2024 23:16
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Success stories

?

Way to go Michael -- for not only extending your DNA results, but also for finding a good topic with which to generate some action on this group forum.

I've been getting my DNA tested for about a decade now -- getting upgraded tests whenever they become available -- but the most useful results have come from document searches. All that DNA has given me so far is ideas about where to look for documents, but with a paternal line all surnamed Jones, and DNA that points solidly to the Irish O'Connell's, coupled with the holes in the Irish documentary record, I'm not sure how to connect all of my dots.

Since the other three quarters of my ancestry are Scotch-Irish, north German and Rhineland German, I've been able to assemble paper trails that go back a lot farther -- to the 1670s in one case -- not bad for a family tree full of peasants. It helps that 1) I am fluent in both German and English, and 2) I am a retired history professor who is still pretty good at researching paper sources.

But if anyone reading this recognizes the name Isaac Jones, born July 5, 1802 "near London" according to his Iowa obituary (probably in St. Sepulchre parish and probably to Issac and Prudence Jones who were married on Nov. 22, 1796), I'd love to know whatever you know.

And good luck to all of you.

Jim Jones