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QuadTone RIP tutorial or FAQ


 

Diane, 1. Printing a "roundabout" is not a British practice but a technique used in printing color photos to assess color balance. I don't think anybody does that anymore with all the new technology.
2. LOL can also mean "Lots of Luck" in the sardonic sense. IMHO
3. I'll second your suggestion on a tutorial on "softproofing". I'm still not comfortable with that procedure.

Ian



From: "Diane Fields" <picnic@...> [Add to Address Book] [View Source]
To: <QuadtoneRIP@...>
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] tutorial or FAQ
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:27:18 +0000
As I sit here and print step wedges on a variety of papers with my 2200/QTR, I've been thinking about the numerous posts on the Digital B/W list (where most people still seem to end up with questions about QTR) about 'how' to use QTR. In truth, the install and use on WinXP is pretty straightforward. I think what bumfuzzles a lot of people is the 'how' to actually use it. I believe many have curves and ICC profiles confused, and if they don't, they seem not to know where to begin to use the installed curves. It would be helpful if one of the more experienced users of QTR write a tutorial (one for Mac and Windows both would be helpful). I think what throws many is what curves to use---if you aren't using one of the papers listed (and now I'm not sure what installs with QTR and what I added with the Carl Schofield download--if you don't have it, try this
) you aren't sure what curve to use for what.

Someone also suggested printing 'roundabouts' of step wedges--I'm guessing maybe this was a UK person since I've not heard that term before for this use but took it as printing a series of step wedges on the same paper with curves/blends. I started with 100% warm at the top, then I printed a 75 warm/25 cool , etc. until I reached 100% cool (I did six--a 100 warm, 75/25, 50/50, 40/60, 25/75, 100 cool). I've printed 10 matte papers thus far (I have accumulated a number of sample packs) and have some more to do. I will then do the same for my EPremsemi as well as a sepia/cool series. This certainly helps you to determine what blends work best for you on what paper.

The other helpful thing would be for someone to write a straightforward tute for softproofing in PS for Windows. I have a nicely written post I found (by Lou Dina I think) that is quite good and with his okay could post it. I'm not sure everyone 'gets' how to softrproof using Roy's ICC profiles.

Diane


Diane Fields
 

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1.? Ah--thanks.? I never had a darkroom though I would have loved to in my film days--all I could think of with a 'roundabout'was the auto 'roundabouts'--which I first encountered years ago in Canada but we have some in NC now also..
2.--well, hadn't thought of LOL as 'lots of luck' (sardonically) but I can see that--the way one would say it--exactly as you suggest *smile*
3. The softproofing is working well for me.? Lou's post helped a lot in what Roy had in mind.? I learned that you could, prior to this, use 2 ICC profiles and an action that Carl had made to 'sort of ' proof blends--and in fact I still have that thanks to Carl, but for tonality/contrast using Roy's LAB profile works pretty well for me with the softproof/ink black.? Still--one has to 'envision' the curve (blends, if you choose)?with it.? I did 12 papers with 21 step wedges in series yesterday and today--and hopefully that will give me a good guide as to choices of blending the curves with certain papers.
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Diane

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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] QuadTone RIP tutorial or FAQ

Diane, 1. Printing a "roundabout" is not a British practice? but a technique used in printing color photos to assess color balance. I don't think anybody does that anymore with all the new technology.
?????????? 2. LOL can also mean "Lots of Luck" in the sardonic sense. ????? IMHO
?????????? 3. I'll second your suggestion on a tutorial on "softproofing". I'm still not comfortable with that procedure.

Ian



From: "Diane Fields" [Add to Address Book] [View Source]
To:
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] tutorial or FAQ
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:27:18 +0000
As I sit here and print step wedges on a variety of papers with my 2200/QTR, I've been thinking about the numerous posts on the Digital B/W list (where most people still seem to end up with questions about QTR) about 'how' to use QTR.? In truth, the install and use on WinXP is pretty straightforward.? I think what bumfuzzles a lot of people is the 'how' to actually use it.? I believe many have curves and ICC profiles confused, and if they don't, they seem not to know where to begin to use the installed curves.?? It would be helpful if one of the more experienced users of QTR write a tutorial (one for Mac and Windows both would be helpful).? I think what throws many is what curves to use---if you aren't using one of the papers listed (and now I'm not sure what installs with QTR and what I added with the Carl Schofield download--if you don't have it, try this
? ) you aren't sure what curve to use for what.

Someone also suggested printing 'roundabouts' of step wedges--I'm guessing maybe this was a UK person since I've not heard that term before for this use but took it as printing a series of step wedges on the same paper with curves/blends.? I started with 100% warm? at the top, then I printed a 75 warm/25 cool , etc. until I reached 100% cool (I did six--a 100 warm, 75/25, 50/50, 40/60, 25/75, 100 cool).? I've printed 10 matte papers thus far (I have accumulated a number of sample packs) and have some more to do.? I will then do the same for my EPremsemi? as well as a sepia/cool series.? This certainly helps you to determine what blends work best for you on what paper.

The other helpful thing would be for someone to write a straightforward tute for softproofing in PS for? Windows.? I have a nicely written post I found (by Lou Dina I think) that is quite good and with his okay could post it.? I'm not sure everyone 'gets' how to softrproof using Roy's ICC profiles.

Diane