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QTR Not Flipping Images?

 

For the past few weeks, when I've been outputting negatives using QTR (and PiezoProDN), my images have not been flipping horizontally as directed by the software. It's 100% random, no settings are changing when this occurs, and it happens maybe 10-15% of the time. Is anyone else seeing this or having this issue? It's wasting a heck of a lot of material...
 

The flipping is connected to converting to negative.? I think maybe that ProDN does not use the PrintTool negative conversion so no flipping.?
If this causes confusion I’d recommend doing what you want in photoshop manually.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 9:11?AM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
For the past few weeks, when I've been outputting negatives using QTR (and PiezoProDN), my images have not been flipping horizontally as directed by the software. It's 100% random, no settings are changing when this occurs, and it happens maybe 10-15% of the time. Is anyone else seeing this or having this issue? It's wasting a heck of a lot of material...
 

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Hey Roy,

Yes, I understand that how the software is working. The thing is that sometimes it flips (correctly), when “flip horizontally” is selected, and other times, when still selected, it doesn’t. And then sometimes when it’s unchecked, it flips the image. That’s the issue at hand. I’ve even gone as far as to create a new quad file and it’s still behaving the same way with no rhyme or reason. I unchecked the “flip horizontal” today as a test, it printed backwards, as predicted, then checked the box, and on the subsequent print it printed in the same orientation. Then, on a third attempt, it printed correctly. I’ve done a test where I’ve printed a correctly oriented negative without the flipping function selected in the print dialog and the orientation is still randomized when printed.?

This has only been happening in the last couple of weeks, which is why I was wondering if anyone else was seeing a similar issue.?

Michael Strickland
805.791.7999
www.michaelstricklandimages.com

On Aug 8, 2024, at 7:59?PM, Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...> wrote:

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The flipping is connected to converting to negative.? I think maybe that ProDN does not use the PrintTool negative conversion so no flipping.?
If this causes confusion I’d recommend doing what you want in photoshop manually.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 9:11?AM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
For the past few weeks, when I've been outputting negatives using QTR (and PiezoProDN), my images have not been flipping horizontally as directed by the software. It's 100% random, no settings are changing when this occurs, and it happens maybe 10-15% of the time. Is anyone else seeing this or having this issue? It's wasting a heck of a lot of material...
 

“Flip Horizontal” box is not a PrintTool checkbox. That’s the macOS
print system under Layout.? QTR driver has no flipping capability.?

I know it’s not necessarily obvious who’s who but it really helps to get to know the parts. Print-Tool is the app for layout and is just the main page you interact with - plus one addition: the Prefs button at bottom next to the Negative box. As soon as you hit Print Settings you are talking to the OS - all panes except the QuadToneRIP pane.?

Mixing all of these is bound to cause confusion.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 6:11?PM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
Hey Roy,

Yes, I understand that how the software is working. The thing is that sometimes it flips (correctly), when “flip horizontally” is selected, and other times, when still selected, it doesn’t. And then sometimes when it’s unchecked, it flips the image. That’s the issue at hand. I’ve even gone as far as to create a new quad file and it’s still behaving the same way with no rhyme or reason. I unchecked the “flip horizontal” today as a test, it printed backwards, as predicted, then checked the box, and on the subsequent print it printed in the same orientation. Then, on a third attempt, it printed correctly. I’ve done a test where I’ve printed a correctly oriented negative without the flipping function selected in the print dialog and the orientation is still randomized when printed.?

This has only been happening in the last couple of weeks, which is why I was wondering if anyone else was seeing a similar issue.?

Michael Strickland
805.791.7999

On Aug 8, 2024, at 7:59?PM, Roy Harrington via <roy=[email protected]> wrote:

?
The flipping is connected to converting to negative.? I think maybe that ProDN does not use the PrintTool negative conversion so no flipping.?
If this causes confusion I’d recommend doing what you want in photoshop manually.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 9:11?AM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
For the past few weeks, when I've been outputting negatives using QTR (and PiezoProDN), my images have not been flipping horizontally as directed by the software. It's 100% random, no settings are changing when this occurs, and it happens maybe 10-15% of the time. Is anyone else seeing this or having this issue? It's wasting a heck of a lot of material...
 

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I see the point you’re making, and apologies for the confusion on my part. Notwithstanding, I’m still interested to see if anyone else is seeing this issue.?

Michael Strickland
805.791.7999
www.michaelstricklandimages.com

On Aug 8, 2024, at 9:58?PM, Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...> wrote:

?
“Flip Horizontal” box is not a PrintTool checkbox. That’s the macOS
print system under Layout.? QTR driver has no flipping capability.?

I know it’s not necessarily obvious who’s who but it really helps to get to know the parts. Print-Tool is the app for layout and is just the main page you interact with - plus one addition: the Prefs button at bottom next to the Negative box. As soon as you hit Print Settings you are talking to the OS - all panes except the QuadToneRIP pane.?

Mixing all of these is bound to cause confusion.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 6:11?PM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
Hey Roy,

Yes, I understand that how the software is working. The thing is that sometimes it flips (correctly), when “flip horizontally” is selected, and other times, when still selected, it doesn’t. And then sometimes when it’s unchecked, it flips the image. That’s the issue at hand. I’ve even gone as far as to create a new quad file and it’s still behaving the same way with no rhyme or reason. I unchecked the “flip horizontal” today as a test, it printed backwards, as predicted, then checked the box, and on the subsequent print it printed in the same orientation. Then, on a third attempt, it printed correctly. I’ve done a test where I’ve printed a correctly oriented negative without the flipping function selected in the print dialog and the orientation is still randomized when printed.?

This has only been happening in the last couple of weeks, which is why I was wondering if anyone else was seeing a similar issue.?

Michael Strickland
805.791.7999

On Aug 8, 2024, at 7:59?PM, Roy Harrington via <roy=[email protected]> wrote:

?
The flipping is connected to converting to negative.? I think maybe that ProDN does not use the PrintTool negative conversion so no flipping.?
If this causes confusion I’d recommend doing what you want in photoshop manually.?

Roy



On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 9:11?AM Michael Strickland Images <michael@...> wrote:
For the past few weeks, when I've been outputting negatives using QTR (and PiezoProDN), my images have not been flipping horizontally as directed by the software. It's 100% random, no settings are changing when this occurs, and it happens maybe 10-15% of the time. Is anyone else seeing this or having this issue? It's wasting a heck of a lot of material...

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