On Jan 10, 2025, at 12:18?PM, Myron Gochnauer via groups.io <goch@...> wrote:

A few years ago I discovered that prints on Kirkland glossy paper looked good when framed and hung in a window so they would be backlit.

The frames were Dollar Store double glass frames (photograph between two pieces of glass, no matting).

I would place a second piece of glossy paper against the back of the print, with the surface facing out or away. The frame was then hung in a window. I assumed that any UV from sunlight or skylight would be absorbed before it made its way to the ink layer.?

During the day the print would mostly be lit from behind, and when it was dark outside the image would be lit by ordinary room lighting. I was surprised at how well this worked in my home.

I no longer have access to Kirkland paper (if it is still made). Epson Premium Luster is a good substitute for everyday printing, but it has watermarks on the back.

Does someone make a similar quality paper without watermarks??

Is anyone using glossy paper as a digital negative (for contact printing in the darkroom)??

I live well off the beaten path, so it’s not easy to have a look at a variety of paper.

Thanks!

Myron

On Jan 10, 2025, at 13:32, Kirk Thibault via groups.io <kirkthibault@...> wrote:

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Maybe try Red River light weight (7 mil thick, 42lb) ?glossy:

I have not printed on it, personally, but it seems to fit the bill. ?The manufacturer notes that the non-glossy side is plain white and that you can print text or graphics on that side as well. ?Red River also offers heavier paper in the same configuration:

Kirk

On Jan 10, 2025, at 12:18?PM, Myron Gochnauer via groups.io <goch@...> wrote:

A few years ago I discovered that prints on Kirkland glossy paper looked good when framed and hung in a window so they would be backlit.

The frames were Dollar Store double glass frames (photograph between two pieces of glass, no matting).

I would place a second piece of glossy paper against the back of the print, with the surface facing out or away. The frame was then hung in a window. I assumed that any UV from sunlight or skylight would be absorbed before it made its way to the ink layer.?

During the day the print would mostly be lit from behind, and when it was dark outside the image would be lit by ordinary room lighting. I was surprised at how well this worked in my home.

I no longer have access to Kirkland paper (if it is still made). Epson Premium Luster is a good substitute for everyday printing, but it has watermarks on the back.

Does someone make a similar quality paper without watermarks??

Is anyone using glossy paper as a digital negative (for contact printing in the darkroom)??

I live well off the beaten path, so it’s not easy to have a look at a variety of paper.

Thanks!

Myron

On Jan 18, 2025, at 12:47, mike rosenberg via groups.io <mprosenberg417@...> wrote:

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On my website I describe a method for making digital negatives for silver gelatin prints using Red River glossy paper.? It does not have a watermark on the back of the paper. A similar question of back-lighting a print was raised on the Large Format Forum; he tried Red River Glossy paper and was very pleased with the result.

Regards,

Mike Rosenberg

mprosenberg417@...

On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 7:40?PM Myron Gochnauer via <goch=[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, Kirk.? I’ll give that a try.

Myron

On Jan 10, 2025, at 13:32, Kirk Thibault via <kirkthibault=[email protected]> wrote:

External message: Use caution.

Maybe try Red River light weight (7 mil thick, 42lb) ?glossy:

I have not printed on it, personally, but it seems to fit the bill.? The manufacturer notes that the non-glossy side is plain white and that you can print text or graphics on that side as well.? Red River also offers heavier paper in the same configuration:

Kirk

On Jan 10, 2025, at 12:18?PM, Myron Gochnauer via <goch=[email protected]> wrote:

A few years ago I discovered that prints on Kirkland glossy paper looked good when framed and hung in a window so they would be backlit.

The frames were Dollar Store double glass frames (photograph between two pieces of glass, no matting).

I would place a second piece of glossy paper against the back of the print, with the surface facing out or away. The frame was then hung in a window. I assumed that any UV from sunlight or skylight would be absorbed before it made its way to the ink layer.?

During the day the print would mostly be lit from behind, and when it was dark outside the image would be lit by ordinary room lighting. I was surprised at how well this worked in my home.

I no longer have access to Kirkland paper (if it is still made). Epson Premium Luster is a good substitute for everyday printing, but it has watermarks on the back.

Does someone make a similar quality paper without watermarks??

Is anyone using glossy paper as a digital negative (for contact printing in the darkroom)??

I live well off the beaten path, so it’s not easy to have a look at a variety of paper.

Thanks!

Myron