Private: Re: Clusters and trails
Hi, David, Thanks for going private with your good advice, perhaps you didn't want to embarrass me. But as you will see, no problem, so I'll go public, imho it's too important a subject not to be aired. I use Maxim DL to stack my images, normally using median combination. But with this particular image being taken in the short period of Astronomical Twilight, I didn't really have enough subs for that to do a complete job. Sigma clip was marginally better, but the brightest trails still left a faint remnant which I had to work on in Photoshop. I would have been better with twice as many 5 minute subs instead of the small number of 10 minute ones. For example the attached image is a single calibrated green sub frame (reduced to 1/3 size). Just a couple of trails, but one of them exceedingly bright, so as there were only 4 green subs, the resultant RGB colour combine contained a faint green streak which had to be further worked on. It would appear that those who are now using CMOS sensors generally have many more but shorter subs than we CCD dinosaurs are used to working with, so the rejection algorithms have a much better chance of doing a good job. But of course those large amounts of data need very powerful up to date computers with a lot of memory to process the data. My desktop is quite well specified, Windows 7 64 bit, i7 processor, but with 'only' 6 GB RAM not all that well equipped for handling massive amounts of data, although since I recently fitted an SSD has improved quite a bit, and it zips along with my relatively modest requirements. The maximum RAM the computer can take is 8 GB, so very little room for improvement there. I have to say the general feeling I'm getting both from this forum and Stargazers Lounge is that 'we're all right Jack', we can beat the satellite trails with clever processing. But that's not really the point is it? As Olly Penrice states in my SGL thread 'The satellite situation is like the plastic situation. We are drowning in plastic, yet still we churn it out.' Here is the thread for those interested in having a look: https://stargazerslounge.com/topic/409788-horror-story-satellite-scandal/ It's bad enough for us amateurs at home, and must be particularly annoying for those lucky enough to have their own remote observatories at dark sites, with the attendant costs and initial hard work setting it all up. How much worse must it be for the large professional observatories with their huge multimillion pound telescopes! Cheers, Peter http://www.madpc.co.uk/~peterv Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W (Northumberland, UK)
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Clusters and trails
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Hi, guys, I don't often post on our forum, but thought you might find this interesting, unless of course you've seen my thread on Stargazers Lounge. In 2020 I imaged the nice grouping of Messier 53 and NGC 5053 using my QSI683 and TMB105 (650 mm fl). Last Summer I bought a SharpStar 140 refractor to replace my Meade 127 - pure self indulgence! And very nice it is too. With the poor season I've been having this year, I wanted to try something in Astronomical twilight, and found the two clusters would still nicely fit in the field of view. So went for it on the evening of 15 May. Unbinned so 10 minute subs to get reasonably deep. And in the end it came out quite well. Luminance 8 x 10 mins, RGB each 4 x 10 mins. BUT it needed a huge amount of work to get a decent looking image because when I counted them up in the individual sub frames there was a total of 54 satellite trails in 20 subs, the worst individual sub containing 7 trails! So I've also attached a summed image of all the subs, showing most of the trails although some of the fainter ones are lost. I should point out that my 2020 subs only contained 2 trails in all. An awful lot of new stuff up there :-( I hope Mr Musk's ears are burning! Cheers, Peter. -- http://www.madpc.co.uk/~peterv Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W (Northumberland, UK)
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NGC 5466 image
With ongoing poor conditions and moonlit nights, I decided to do what I could and target a globular cluster. NGC 5466 is an ancient globular cluster - roughly 12.5 billion years old - in the constellation of Bootes. It has a low central concentration of stars overall and a significant population of "blue horizontal stars". The latter are highly luminous blue stars that support helium-to-carbon fusion in their cores as opposed to the hydrogen-to-helium fusion of most stars. This is a late stage of stellar evolution, consistent with the advanced age of the cluster. Recent studies show that the cluster is also the origin of a tidal stream of stars that stretches 31 degrees across the sky. Modeling suggests the stellar stream was caused by a gravitational interaction of NGC 5466 with the disk of the Milky Way galaxy. The image was captured during 2 nights in April and May from New Mexico under moonlit skies. Image acquisition was done with a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 6 hours. https://coldphotons.com/zen_astro/astro_images/NGC5466_LRGB_Web.jpg Thanks for looking, Bruce W
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ASCOM drivers and Windows 11
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Hello All, has anyone had success in using the QSI drivers from either the QSI or ATIK web sites on Windows 11? In all my trials, 2020.07.30 drivers return the error message included below, and older 1.0.0.3 drivers don't even register correctly and don't come up in camera Chooser menu. My workaround has been to downgrade to the 7.4.1824 versions, which work. For what it's worth, all of these versions work fine on Win10. Sorry in advance if this is a trivial question, but all of my searches on the topic came up empty. Thanks, Roman.
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QSI CMOS
Has anyone heard if Atik is planning on making a new CMOS based sensor using the current QSI body design?
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NGC 4535 image
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This is an image of NGC 4535, a grand-design spiral galaxy in the Virgo Cluster and one of its largest spiral members. It's about 15% larger than the Milky Way galaxy and was included in the Hubble Extragalactic Distance Scale project, a research effort directed at refining the Hubble constant to a 10% uncertainty. The project identified 39 well-resolved Cepheid variable stars in NGC 4535 to determine its distance at 52M +/- 1.9 light-years. The image was captured over a 4-night period in April from New Mexico. Image acquisition was done with a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 16.8 hours. https://coldphotons.com/zen_astro/astro_images/NGC4535_LRGB_Web.jpg Thanks for looking, Bruce W.
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NGC 2683 image
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This is an image of NGC 2683, the "UFO galaxy" in Lynx, seen nearly edge-on. Although it is smaller and less luminous than the Milky Way galaxy, it hosts over 300 globular clusters, nearly 2x that of the Milky Way. The image was captured over a 6-night period from late February to mid-April during a particularly frustrating period in western New Mexico. Image acquisition was done with a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 14 hours. https://coldphotons.com/zen_astro/albums/astro_images/NGC2683_LRGB_Web.jpg Thanks for looking, Bruce W.
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CEDIC Team goes Namibia - Part#9 (Open Clusters in Sco)
Hello group, ¡®Open Clusters in Scorpius¡¯ is the topic of part #9 of our image presentation, where we want to share the results from our astrophotography-trip to DeepSkySafaris in Namibia. For this post we have chosen some open star clusters and their immediate surroundings in the constellation Scorpius. Very prominent is Messier 7, visible to the naked eye, surrounded by a multitude of dark nebulae. Characteristic for this area of the Milky Way is the golden colour of the stars, caused by the dust lying in the line of sight. NGC 6231 lies in an area with various emission nebulae and in the neighbourhood of this cluster are several other open star clusters from the NGC catalogue. The Waterberg was the last stop on our tour of Namibia and was by far the ¡®greenest¡¯ region we got to see. Shooting the star trails with a moonlit landscape was a nice way to end our trip. M 7 with Esprit 120: http://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20messier%207%20esprit%20120.htm M 7 with Baader Apo95: http://www.astrophoton.com/M007-2.htm NGC 6231 with 10¡± Newtonian: http://www.astrophoton.com/NGC6231-4.htm NGC 6231 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: http://www.astrophoton.com/NGC6231-3.htm Sandqvist 17 with Esprit 100: http://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20sandqvist%2017%20esprit100.htm Sandqvist 17 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: http://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-sandqvist%2017%20wf%20vixen.htm Startrails at Waterberg: http://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20star%20trails%20rooisand-a.htm Overview on all results from Namibia 2022 including background information: http://www.cedic.at/namibia2022/index.php http://www.astrophoton.com/namibia2022.htm https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%202022.htm Important CEDIC conference news: We are already preparing the CEDIC'24! Save the date! Location: Linz (Austria) Date: March 22-24 2024 Greetings from CEDIC-Team Markus Blauensteiner Bernhard Hubl www.cedic.at www.ccdguide.com www.deepskysafaris.com
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Short Exposures not producing an image periodically
I'm having an issue when I run autofocus. Sometimes the 10 sec download image is blank (no stars). I'm using Hocus Focus my camera is a QSI 6162. I'm able to achieve focus but randomly there is no image produced and the curve shows a drop off at the point of the blank image.
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CEDIC Team goes Namibia - Part#8 (Nebulae in Sco)
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Hello group, ¡®Nebulae in Scorpius¡¯ is the topic of part #8 of our image presentation, where we want to share the results from our astrophotography-trip to DeepSkySafaris in Namibia. In this part we deal with emission and reflection nebulae in the constellation Scorpius. While this prominent star figure does not rise very high above the horizon in Central Europe, it passes through the zenith in Namibia. In the area of the scissors is the very well-known Antares region with its colourful nebula landscape. A part of it is the reflection nebula IC 4605. A bit to the west we find the interesting reflection nebula vdB 99. In the middle of the Milky Way we reach the emission nebulae IC 4628 and NGC 6357, both are also known as the ?Prawn Nebula¡° and the ?Lobster Nebula¡°. Directly below the Scorpion spine we still find the constellation Corona Australis with the very extended Corona Australis Molecular Cloud. IC 4605 with 10¡± Newtonian: http://www.astrophoton.com/IC4605-2.htm IC 4605 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: http://www.astrophoton.com/IC4605-3.htm vdB 99 with Baader Apo95: http://www.astrophoton.com/vdb099-2.htm IC 4628 with Esprit 100: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20ic%204628%20esprit100.htm IC 4628 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20ic%204628%20wf%20vixen.htm NGC 6357 with Baader Apo95: http://www.astrophoton.com/NGC6357.htm vdBH 73A with Esprit 120: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20vdbh%2073a%20esprit%20120.htm Corona Australis Molecular Cloud with Baader Apo95: http://www.astrophoton.com/sandqvist040.htm Overview on all results from Namibia 2022 including background information: http://www.cedic.at/namibia2022/index.php http://www.astrophoton.com/namibia2022.htm https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%202022.htm Greetings from CEDIC-Team Markus Blauensteiner Bernhard Hubl www.cedic.at www.ccdguide.com www.deepskysafaris.com
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Jack power connector of QSI683
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Dear All, does anybody of you have the specs for the jack connector that provides power to the CCD camera? I might be using the wrong one as sometimes I don't get contact. Thanks a lot! Nicola -- Nicola Sky Monsters - http://www.skymonsters.net Skype: betelgeuse368 Privo di virus.www.avast.com
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CCD not powering up...or it does
Hello All, I have a remote observatory and currently I can not power on the CCD, but sometimes I can. As a software programmer, things for me are always 0 or 1 so I really don't know what could be causing the CCD powering on from time to time without any repeatable pattern or sequence.... Thanks a lot Nicola Sky Monsters - http://www.skymonsters.net Skype: betelgeuse368 Privo di virus.www.avast.com
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NINA+QSI 532 camera and on camera filter wheel
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I have a QSI 532 with built in camera filter. I'm trying to connect the camera and the filter to work together via NINA Ver 2 I know this to be an ASCOM problem Under various tries I have been able to get both the camera and the filter wheel connected, but I have been unable to show the filters under filter wheel selection. Can anybody provide/supply the drivers etc that allow both the camera and filter wheel to connect and show the filters in the filter wheel.. This is the only step now holding me back from using NINA via the Sky X I'd be very grateful, Eric
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NGC2903
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My first complete project with my 6162. Pretty happy with this result even though I have some gradient issues I mentioned in a previous post. 12hrs total over 3 nights.
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CEDIC Team goes Namibia - Part#7 (Nebulae in Ara and Norma)
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Hello group, ¡®Nebulae in Ara and Norma¡¯ is the topic of part #7 of our image presentation, where we want to share the results from our astrophotography-trip to DeepSkySafaris in Namibia. In this part we make a foray through the nebula landscape in the constellations Ara and Norma. Starting with the well known emission nebula NGC 6188 (¡®Fighting dragons of Ara¡¯) to less known objects from the GUM and RCW catalog. Near NGC 6188 you can find NGC 6164, a very interesting bipolar emission nebula. It is surrounded by a faint halo emitting mainly in [OIII]. vdBH 81 is a faint reflection nebula in the shape of a circle segment, it is rather rarely photographed. This is also the case for Gum 49, a nice emission nebula in Norma, which appears almost divided in two by dust. NGC 6188 with Baader Apo95: http://www.astrophoton.com/NGC6188-2.htm NGC 6188 with Esprit 100: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20ngc%206188%20esprit100.htm NGC 6188 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20ngc6188%20wf%20vixen.htm vdBH 81 with Esprit 100: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20vdbh%2081%20esprit100.htm vdBH 81 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20vdbh%2081%20wf%20vixen.htm Gum 49 with 12¡± Newtonian: http://www.astrophoton.com/gum49.htm Gum 49 wide-field with Vixen FL55SS: http://www.astrophoton.com/gum49-2.htm RCW 94 with Esprit 120: https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%20-%20gn15.41.0%20esprit%20120 Overview on all results from Namibia 2022 including background information: http://www.cedic.at/namibia2022/index.php http://www.astrophoton.com/namibia2022.htm https://celestialphotographer.com/namibia%202022.htm Greetings from CEDIC-Team Markus Blauensteiner Bernhard Hubl www.cedic.at www.ccdguide.com www.deepskysafaris.com
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Flat Correction QSI6162
My first light with this camera and I have a gradient that appears in my LRGB masters (36x300sec light frames). This was taken with a 10" RCX 2400mm FL. This is a stretched master flat: The noticeable dust donut on the lower left seems to be for the most part removed accept for when over stretched. I circled the donut in this image: I used an ADU count of 32000 for my flats. I'm leaning towards an internal reflection causing this issue. I made a test image with an HA filter and I don't have this issue. I can remove the gradient when processing: Does this look like a flats issue? Looking for some words of wisdom. Pete
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IC 410 image
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This image shows IC 410, the Tadpoles nebula, a star-forming region in Auriga, roughly centered around the open star cluster NGC 1893 and located about 12,000 light-years away. The bright young stars in the cluster have recently formed from the surrounding nebula and are producing the radiation responsible for the blue reflections and red Hydrogen-alpha emissions seen in the field. The striking "tadpoles" in the upper left are colder, denser regions of gas that have been able to so far resist the eroding effects of the stellar winds from the hot young stars. This image was captured across 5 nights in January-February during a miserable winter in New Mexico using a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 from SkyPi Remote Observatories. Total LRGB integration was 18.3 hours. https://www.coldphotons.com/zen_astro/astro_images/IC410_LumHaRGB_Web.jpg Thanks for looking, Bruce W.
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Leo Triplet
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I took this one over the last new moon period. The link is here https://www.astrobin.com/n2ec75/ Camera: QSI wsg 540 Telescope: Televue 101is Mount: AP 900 Software: PixInsight The *Leo Triplet* (also known as the *M66 Group* ) is a small galaxy group in Leo about 35 million light years away. This group consists of the spiral galaxies M65, M66 and NGC 3628. The three galaxies in the M66 Group have all been affected by gravitational interactions with each other. This is evident in the deformed, drawn out spiral arms of M66 that are experiencing a high rate of star forming activity and in the warped, inflated disk of NGC 3628. With a prominent tidal tail consisting mainly of young blue stars, NGC 3628 seems to be the most affected of the three, while M65 appears to have suffered the least damage from the interaction. The tidal tail of NGC 3628 spans over 300,000 light years and, although is is very faint, it is well shown in this image.
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Pollen vs QSI 683 wsg
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Hello group, I have a question for those that have experienced the Spring tree pollen. In the southern part of the USA, we have to deal with pine tree pollen every year around March. It gets everywhere and becomes an issue for hay fever sufferers. So, would the tree pollen affect the exhaust fans on my QSI? I am not sure if they are exhaust or draw cool air into the imager. Eduardo
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Anyone looking for a second camera?
QSI 683 WSG8 - $2K for the whole shebang! Includes: Power Supply USB Cable Guider Cable 2" Nose Piece Astrodon Tru-Balance LRGB E-Series CCD Filters Astrodon Tru-Balance SHO 5nm CCD Filters $6350 - If purchased new. Free Shipping USA.
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