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QSI583: filter wheel not perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window


 

Hello All,

does anybody of you had issues with the filter wheel non perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window?

The test I did was:
1) Opening the cover and positioning the filter number 1 over the window manually
2) by using a common software, moving all the filter carousel (LRGBH) one by one over the window
3) After coming back to the first filter again (L) the correct position is lost, i.e. is shifted of, let's say 1mm

A similar test was:
0) power off camera
1) move manually the?filter 1 correctly over the ccd window
2) power on camera
3) the camera goes into starting mode moving the carousel of a complete rotation.
4) The filter 1 does not come in the same place, but it is slightly "behind" the correct position

How can I adjust this?

Many thanks for your help
Nicola
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368


 

Hi Nicola,
Several suggestions. The position of the filter wheel is determined by a particular barcode assigned to each filter slot, and read by an optical scanner, as is the case on my 683wsg. Is anything on the filter wheel scratched or marred in any way as to compromise this?

Also, the rotation of the filter wheel is accomplished by a motor and capstan pressured against the rubber ring around the edge of the filter wheel. I had this issue (don't know why - the camera is in an observatory), and fixed it by gently cleaning the rubber ring on the filter wheel, as well as the surface of the capstan roller against which it is pressed. This assured that good contact between the capstan and rubber ring was maintained.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps a bit
?- - Steve

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:50?AM NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:
Hello All,

does anybody of you had issues with the filter wheel non perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window?

The test I did was:
1) Opening the cover and positioning the filter number 1 over the window manually
2) by using a common software, moving all the filter carousel (LRGBH) one by one over the window
3) After coming back to the first filter again (L) the correct position is lost, i.e. is shifted of, let's say 1mm

A similar test was:
0) power off camera
1) move manually the?filter 1 correctly over the ccd window
2) power on camera
3) the camera goes into starting mode moving the carousel of a complete rotation.
4) The filter 1 does not come in the same place, but it is slightly "behind" the correct position

How can I adjust this?

Many thanks for your help
Nicola
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368


 

Hi Steve,

thanks for the suggestions. Would you please explain to me the procedure you used to clean the rubber ring and the capstan roller?

Many thanks
Nicola

Il giorno mer 14 giu 2023 alle ore 22:31 Steve Solon <galaxyshots84@...> ha scritto:
Hi Nicola,
Several suggestions. The position of the filter wheel is determined by a particular barcode assigned to each filter slot, and read by an optical scanner, as is the case on my 683wsg. Is anything on the filter wheel scratched or marred in any way as to compromise this?

Also, the rotation of the filter wheel is accomplished by a motor and capstan pressured against the rubber ring around the edge of the filter wheel. I had this issue (don't know why - the camera is in an observatory), and fixed it by gently cleaning the rubber ring on the filter wheel, as well as the surface of the capstan roller against which it is pressed. This assured that good contact between the capstan and rubber ring was maintained.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps a bit
?- - Steve

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:50?AM NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:
Hello All,

does anybody of you had issues with the filter wheel non perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window?

The test I did was:
1) Opening the cover and positioning the filter number 1 over the window manually
2) by using a common software, moving all the filter carousel (LRGBH) one by one over the window
3) After coming back to the first filter again (L) the correct position is lost, i.e. is shifted of, let's say 1mm

A similar test was:
0) power off camera
1) move manually the?filter 1 correctly over the ccd window
2) power on camera
3) the camera goes into starting mode moving the carousel of a complete rotation.
4) The filter 1 does not come in the same place, but it is slightly "behind" the correct position

How can I adjust this?

Many thanks for your help
Nicola
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368



--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368


 

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Good morning, Nicola.?
It¡¯s very simple: take a cotton swap and dampen it (not soak it) with isopropyl alcohol - any percentage is fine - and gently swab the o-ring as much as is available, and the capstan, as well.?

My camera was only 2 years old when the issue developed, which was unusual, but it did solve the problem. I hope it will work for you.?
?- - Steve?

Sent From Steve¡¯s IPhone?

On Jun 15, 2023, at 4:12 AM, NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:

?
Hi Steve,

thanks for the suggestions. Would you please explain to me the procedure you used to clean the rubber ring and the capstan roller?

Many thanks
Nicola

Il giorno mer 14 giu 2023 alle ore 22:31 Steve Solon <galaxyshots84@...> ha scritto:
Hi Nicola,
Several suggestions. The position of the filter wheel is determined by a particular barcode assigned to each filter slot, and read by an optical scanner, as is the case on my 683wsg. Is anything on the filter wheel scratched or marred in any way as to compromise this?

Also, the rotation of the filter wheel is accomplished by a motor and capstan pressured against the rubber ring around the edge of the filter wheel. I had this issue (don't know why - the camera is in an observatory), and fixed it by gently cleaning the rubber ring on the filter wheel, as well as the surface of the capstan roller against which it is pressed. This assured that good contact between the capstan and rubber ring was maintained.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps a bit
?- - Steve

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:50?AM NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:
Hello All,

does anybody of you had issues with the filter wheel non perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window?

The test I did was:
1) Opening the cover and positioning the filter number 1 over the window manually
2) by using a common software, moving all the filter carousel (LRGBH) one by one over the window
3) After coming back to the first filter again (L) the correct position is lost, i.e. is shifted of, let's say 1mm

A similar test was:
0) power off camera
1) move manually the?filter 1 correctly over the ccd window
2) power on camera
3) the camera goes into starting mode moving the carousel of a complete rotation.
4) The filter 1 does not come in the same place, but it is slightly "behind" the correct position

How can I adjust this?

Many thanks for your help
Nicola
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368



--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368


 

Hi Steve,

thanks for the simple procedure. I'll give it a try asap.

Nicola

Il giorno gio 15 giu 2023 alle ore 17:55 Steve Solon <galaxyshots84@...> ha scritto:
Good morning, Nicola.?
It¡¯s very simple: take a cotton swap and dampen it (not soak it) with isopropyl alcohol - any percentage is fine - and gently swab the o-ring as much as is available, and the capstan, as well.?

My camera was only 2 years old when the issue developed, which was unusual, but it did solve the problem. I hope it will work for you.?
?- - Steve?

Sent From Steve¡¯s IPhone?

On Jun 15, 2023, at 4:12 AM, NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:

?
Hi Steve,

thanks for the suggestions. Would you please explain to me the procedure you used to clean the rubber ring and the capstan roller?

Many thanks
Nicola

Il giorno mer 14 giu 2023 alle ore 22:31 Steve Solon <galaxyshots84@...> ha scritto:
Hi Nicola,
Several suggestions. The position of the filter wheel is determined by a particular barcode assigned to each filter slot, and read by an optical scanner, as is the case on my 683wsg. Is anything on the filter wheel scratched or marred in any way as to compromise this?

Also, the rotation of the filter wheel is accomplished by a motor and capstan pressured against the rubber ring around the edge of the filter wheel. I had this issue (don't know why - the camera is in an observatory), and fixed it by gently cleaning the rubber ring on the filter wheel, as well as the surface of the capstan roller against which it is pressed. This assured that good contact between the capstan and rubber ring was maintained.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps a bit
?- - Steve

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 8:50?AM NIcola Montecchiari <omega.centauri@...> wrote:
Hello All,

does anybody of you had issues with the filter wheel non perfectly positioning the filter over the ccd window?

The test I did was:
1) Opening the cover and positioning the filter number 1 over the window manually
2) by using a common software, moving all the filter carousel (LRGBH) one by one over the window
3) After coming back to the first filter again (L) the correct position is lost, i.e. is shifted of, let's say 1mm

A similar test was:
0) power off camera
1) move manually the?filter 1 correctly over the ccd window
2) power on camera
3) the camera goes into starting mode moving the carousel of a complete rotation.
4) The filter 1 does not come in the same place, but it is slightly "behind" the correct position

How can I adjust this?

Many thanks for your help
Nicola
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368



--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368



--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -
Skype: betelgeuse368


 

I had same issue last few weeks ago.
When I saw the image, some images showed too much vignet on some filters (Green and Blue).?
At first, I did not expect that filter wheel had a problem, but I found that those filters (green and blue) filters were not correct position.?

So I uncovered the front cover of camera and watched carefully, and I could see those filters were reallly not positioned correctly.
When filter wheel is rotated, O-ring is contacing with motor actuated shaft. When I see that, I could found that outter side of Oring is not perfectly rounding motion..
Maybe because of too much usage and rubber O-ring was changed a little...So I removed this Oring and disassembled again.?
and it works fine now...