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Re: Rockmite kit build

 

Daniel,?

Two books that you should have in your bookshelf in addition to EMRFD and SSD are The Art of Electronics by Horowitz and Hill and Malvino's Electronic Principles. You can get good used copies for like $5.? I have a bunch of texts I used when I was getting my undergrad electrical engineering degree. Those were not ever called out for any of my classes, but I used them more than most.? Definitely worth the money.

-HRS

H. Russell Smith, N0QLT??? ?????????????????????????????


On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 12:03:12 PM CDT, Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


John,

I like the photos of your RockMite.

Is the QRPme's RockMite ][ CW Transceiver good for someone who has built a Sea Sprite from QRPme?

I am looking into building another radio once I've done all the mods to the Sea Sprite, etc.

My build of the Sea Sprite+ was a success.? And the only mods I have done are the 3rd pin for the crystal and the bypass for the antenna.? ?For the crystal, I simply took a discarded resistor lead and used that for the 3rd pin of the crystal.? No need to cause harm to an innocent crystal... LOL

I am no expert nor beginner, but there have been kits or homebrewing in the past where I failed.? I have 3 kit projects from various places that I have failed and eventually will try fix them.? So, I was happy I built the Sea Sprite radio and it worked.

I think understanding how to diagnose why a radio is not working and how to fix it is an acquired skill set via lots of experience building and fixing kits and homebrewing.? I have not gotten there yet.? Do you suggest a book to read to help fix radio electronics???

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: Rockmite kit build

 

Daniel,

The RockMite kits (40 meter) from QRPMe

SPECIFICATIONS:

- Double-sided PCB 2.0" x 2.5", plated-thru-holes, solder masked & silk screened for easy assembly
-?SAME size and mounting holes as the original so MINT TIN FRIENDLY
- 0.5W power output at 13V supply
- Supply voltage range 12-15V
- AVAILABLE FREQUENCIES:
80m will be shipped with a PAIR of 3550 & 3560 cyrstals
40m will be shipped with 7030 & 7040
30m will be shipped with 10106 & 10116
20m kits will be shipped with 14050 & 14060 crystals

- Automatic T/R offset, reversible
- Built-in custom version of Ham Gadgets PicoKeyer-RM Iambic keyer, 5-40 WPM
- Built in side tone, approx. 700Hz
- Includes assembly instructions and operating tips
-?ALL on-board parts, input/output connectors and wiring to connect them together are supplied in the Rockmite ][ kit
-?ALL parts for the keyer SPEED, audio VOLUME and power ON/OFF switch & LED mods are also NOW included

TOTAL parts kit PRICE of $50

It has a built in keyer, is a transeiver,? crystal controlled , half watt. The keyer menu is done by button pushes and paddle clicks with cw responses which requires the menu close at hand so you know how to navigate, but with the enclosure you have a speed pot which the thing you want to set most outside the menu. So a lot of features in a small package for a good price.?

The build is relatively straight forward but not a step by step, just read it and if you are getting the power mod (do that first) read all before. There is one resistor that is speed control but you don't put that in and run wires out to the pot on the enclosure, so a few things to watch out for.

So your coming through Chicago?? I live immediately west of Chicago (bordering) in Oak Park. if your going to Rockford you probably will tak the JFK towards Ohare, but the segment just north of the Loop is under some construction and a better route might be to take I290 which goes right through Oak Park.? Let me know and you can stop by and see my meger antenna farm.

? ?---John AC9UV

? ? ? 73

On 03/31/2023 12:22 PM David Knapp via groups.io <renewables@...> wrote:



There is the new 10M version coming out shortly as well, looking forward to it!!!

I know I have several kits not received that will be chasing me across the country as we work our way north to Chicago starting on Sunday. We delayed leaving a couple of days because the TORCON level where we are headed is a 9 today, gulp!!!

My Sea Sprinte will have to get assembled in Rockford, IL when Nani is with the grandbabies and I have slipped back to the RV for a little POTA activation and to make some solder smoke.

What was the bandwidth like at the receiver? I have a 200Hz audio filter I have to build yet, so many kits, so little time. I figure I can't die until I run out of kits to build.

My latest project is in use today, my new Molex connector just came from AMZ:?



I'll check back in a few days Daniel and John!

Davey - KU9L


On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 01:03:12 PM EDT, Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


John,

I like the photos of your RockMite.

Is the QRPme's RockMite ][ CW Transceiver good for someone who has built a Sea Sprite from QRPme?

I am looking into building another radio once I've done all the mods to the Sea Sprite, etc.

My build of the Sea Sprite+ was a success.? And the only mods I have done are the 3rd pin for the crystal and the bypass for the antenna.? ?For the crystal, I simply took a discarded resistor lead and used that for the 3rd pin of the crystal.? No need to cause harm to an innocent crystal... LOL

I am no expert nor beginner, but there have been kits or homebrewing in the past where I failed.? I have 3 kit projects from various places that I have failed and eventually will try fix them.? So, I was happy I built the Sea Sprite radio and it worked.

I think understanding how to diagnose why a radio is not working and how to fix it is an acquired skill set via lots of experience building and fixing kits and homebrewing.? I have not gotten there yet.? Do you suggest a book to read to help fix radio electronics???

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: Rockmite kit build

 

There is the new 10M version coming out shortly as well, looking forward to it!!!

I know I have several kits not received that will be chasing me across the country as we work our way north to Chicago starting on Sunday. We delayed leaving a couple of days because the TORCON level where we are headed is a 9 today, gulp!!!

My Sea Sprinte will have to get assembled in Rockford, IL when Nani is with the grandbabies and I have slipped back to the RV for a little POTA activation and to make some solder smoke.

What was the bandwidth like at the receiver? I have a 200Hz audio filter I have to build yet, so many kits, so little time. I figure I can't die until I run out of kits to build.

My latest project is in use today, my new Molex connector just came from AMZ:?



I'll check back in a few days Daniel and John!

Davey - KU9L


On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 01:03:12 PM EDT, Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


John,

I like the photos of your RockMite.

Is the QRPme's RockMite ][ CW Transceiver good for someone who has built a Sea Sprite from QRPme?

I am looking into building another radio once I've done all the mods to the Sea Sprite, etc.

My build of the Sea Sprite+ was a success.? And the only mods I have done are the 3rd pin for the crystal and the bypass for the antenna.? ?For the crystal, I simply took a discarded resistor lead and used that for the 3rd pin of the crystal.? No need to cause harm to an innocent crystal... LOL

I am no expert nor beginner, but there have been kits or homebrewing in the past where I failed.? I have 3 kit projects from various places that I have failed and eventually will try fix them.? So, I was happy I built the Sea Sprite radio and it worked.

I think understanding how to diagnose why a radio is not working and how to fix it is an acquired skill set via lots of experience building and fixing kits and homebrewing.? I have not gotten there yet.? Do you suggest a book to read to help fix radio electronics???

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: Rockmite kit build

Daniel KK4MRN
 

John,

I like the photos of your RockMite.

Is the QRPme's RockMite ][ CW Transceiver good for someone who has built a Sea Sprite from QRPme?

I am looking into building another radio once I've done all the mods to the Sea Sprite, etc.

My build of the Sea Sprite+ was a success.? And the only mods I have done are the 3rd pin for the crystal and the bypass for the antenna.? ?For the crystal, I simply took a discarded resistor lead and used that for the 3rd pin of the crystal.? No need to cause harm to an innocent crystal... LOL

I am no expert nor beginner, but there have been kits or homebrewing in the past where I failed.? I have 3 kit projects from various places that I have failed and eventually will try fix them.? So, I was happy I built the Sea Sprite radio and it worked.

I think understanding how to diagnose why a radio is not working and how to fix it is an acquired skill set via lots of experience building and fixing kits and homebrewing.? I have not gotten there yet.? Do you suggest a book to read to help fix radio electronics???

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Rockmite kit build

 

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Group,

With all that time on my hands after the buildathon I pieced together a Rockmite ][ 20m kit I had waiting in the wings for about 2 years.? I almost got it done but am waiting for a Power Mod kit from Rex.

I have the 30 and 40 Rockmites already built so just filling in gaps.

Not a kit for a very beginner as the build instructions are small but well marked, but then the band specific part and the band mods and the enclosure are perterbations on the straight build and a little scattered. Read before building is always best.

? ?---John AC9UV

? ? ? 73


Re: Revisiting the Tuna Power System kit TPS

 

Today the 12 AH battery performed the same exact way, the LIFEPO4 battery BMS disconnects when it becomes full and the battery voltage becomes too high or is about to be overcharged.? No issues on my end, had I been using a radio, charging my cell phone (for HAMRS logger app), and other Two Tinned Tuna devices the small solar panel would have just extended my operating time rather than just filling up the battery.

Next, I will finish the Tuna Tunah project I already started. I think I assembled one in 2018 already, but it is in storage in Chicago.

Does anyone have a source for the mating Molex 4-pin connecter on the Tuna Power System Kit?? The first three I bought are too small or the wrong shape, do not rely on the photos on Amazon to be the exact item you need, just saying. I think the version I need might be related to computer floppy drive connector sizes, but I just want the mating connector with female pins so I can power my Penntek TR-35 QRP 4-band radio via the TPS kit. I need to power it and the Molex connector looked to be very convenient.

Davey - KU9L



On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 09:02:12 PM EDT, David Knapp via groups.io <renewables@...> wrote:


Additional notes:

As the datasheet shows, the Overcharge RED LED glows when the voltage reaches 14.0 volts, but charging continues until the battery reaches 14.7 volts upon which the charge current tapers off. I think the RUB of me using a LIFEPO4 lithium battery is that the battery BMS charging will shut down the ability to charge typically above 14.6 volts which is why I suddenly saw ~20 volts from the battery reading. This may have confused the 3906N IC which was to start tapering off the charge current prior to going into the 3rd stage, Float at 13.9 volts. Tomorrow I will test this with my 12AH Explorer battery box to see if I get a similar result as I did with my single 6AH battery. Now that I know the states the datasheet targets I can better determine if it meets the specs. Generally, though, my LIFEPO4 solar charge controller may be a better option. I plan to use the TPS Kit stand-alone for POTA and charge the batteries separately.

I noticed zero hum when using a tuna project from my batteries compared to the wall wart that makes tons of hum.

Davey - KU9L

Here is the info from the Data Sheet:

This?charger circuit diagram?is based on the?UC3906 battery charger controller?that contains all of the necessary circuitry to control the charge and hold cycle for sealed lead-acid batteries. The UC3906 battery charger circuit is specifically designed to provide the proper charging voltage and current determined by the temperature and state of charge of the battery.
The UC3906 battery charger circuit controller monitor and control both the output voltage and current of the charger through three separate charge states .
UC3906? has separate voltage loop and current limit amplifiers which regulate the output voltage and current levels in the charger by controlling the onboard driver.The charger circuit requires 18 to 22 volts DC input.? Three optical ( LED ) indicators show the charge state .? The UC3906 IC is configured to provide three charge states:
Bulk charge ¨C the charger operates in a constant-current charge mode until the battery reaches the programmed full-charge voltage.

Overcharge ¨C when the voltage reaches the programmed full-charge voltage, the charger switches to overcharge mode to ¡®top-off¡¯ the battery.
Float charge ¨C when the current decreases to the minimum overcharge current, the charger enters the float charge mode.
Voltage and current sense comparators are used to sense the battery condition and respond with logic inputs to the charge state logic.
How works these three states modes ?

If the battery voltage is between 10.2 and 12.2 volts? ( when charger is connected to the battery )? charging begins at the programmed bulk charge current and continues until the voltage rises to 14.0 volts. In this state mode only the power LED is illuminated .
When the voltage exceeds 14.0 volts, the overcharge LED illuminates (charger has entered in the overcharge mode) and charging continues. The charge current remains at the programmed bulk charge rate until the battery voltage reaches 14.7 volts.
When the battery voltage reaches 14.7 volts, the charging current begins to taper off.
When it decreases to 1/10 ?of the bulk charge current, the overcharge LED extinguishes and the float LED illuminates to indicate that the charger has entered the float charge mode (voltage is maintained at 13.9 volts ). ?The TIP transistor must be mounted on a heatsink , to prevent the damage of it cause of high temperature .



On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 07:38:00 PM EDT, David Knapp via groups.io <renewables@...> wrote:


Now that we have stable power at the campground again and I needed to finish up my projects as we are leaving FL this weekend, I decided to finish up my Tuna Power System Kit.

This kit is a central power distribution kit for all of my tuna can kits, it also will charge a sealed lead acid (SLA) battery with an 18-20 volt charging input. The kit is set up for wall warts outputting from 0.4 - 1.0 charging amps.

I don't follow instructions well, ask my teachers from grade school! I believe in populating data points wherever I can. Assembly was halted because I was missing three 1K ohm resistors out of four the kit claimed to need. Because our campground had no power for 36 hours and no internet, I could not attend the Buildathon live. However, after the power came back on and then became stable (they doubled the size of the transformer), I decided to finish my TPS kit.

I bought a box of Diodes, 1/4w, 1/2w, & 2w resistors assortment to cover for those missing parts. In my case, I was missing three 1K ohm 1/4w metal film resistors but was given three 3.3K ohm resistors by accident. In this case, I calculated that those would not work in the place of the missing parts.

Anyway, I finished the assembly and even made a couple of mods to add a digital voltmeter at both the Battery input and the solar input so I could determine charging potential.

I went to buy an SLA battery but found a cheap Chinese 6ah LIFEPO4 lithium battery instead. I wondered if it could be used in the TPS kit.

I plugged it in and the TPS kit sprung to life with 13.3 volts of output. I then plugged in a 20-watt solar panel that claims 20 volts open circuit and 18 volts at full 1.0 amp output!!!!? Since this was a little higher than Rex or Chuck intended (0.7 amp max), I removed the 1n4004 1.0 amp rectifier and replaced it with a 3.0-amp 1N5404 diode instead. The 20-watt solar panel sprung to life at 17.5-volts and with whispy clouds, I was measuring between 0.7 - 1.0 amps via my amp clamp meter on the solar plus input.

The green LED illuminated to show charging and the battery voltage slowly began rising. Once it got to 13.8 volts I thought, "Well, the charge regulation should kick in now!" But it didn't, it continued to climb to 14.0 volts, 14.1, 14.3, 14.5, and 14.6 volts ... whew! Suddenly it jumped to 20.5 volts!!!! Oh my!!!

Why is this? Well, the battery voltage continued to hover around 14.6 volts, but the BMS (Battery Management System)? detects the higher voltage that the charging circuit tries to ramp up to and it disconnects the charging to protect itself. The battery still provides a 14.6-volt output, but the charging circuit with a near-zero amperage sees an open circuit that matches the voltage input from the solar panel.

Now, this would not be good for a radio's sensitive input voltage, but since it was an open circuit voltage I put a load on it and the voltage came right down. I am not sure why the UC3906N IC circuit did not limit itself to 13.8 volts since that is what I would expect with an SLA battery. I moved the TPS kit over to the Explorer battery box that I did a video on and tomorrow I will repeat my experiment to see what happens when the 12AH of LIFEPO4 batteries are near full charge. Tonight the voltage only rose to 13.5 volts as the batteries were chugging along all day powering my 30-watt 12-volt DC soldering iron. I triple-checked my TPS kit and verified all resistors, two capacitors, IC, and voltage regulators were installed correctly and at the proper values. So aside from the 13.8-volt regulation voltage, I declare the kit to be a success.?

I have a 24-amp MPPT solar charge controller that I charge my Explorer box with so I don't really need the charging circuit of the TPS kit, but I did try out the USB charging circuit and it worked perfectly. I left my fingerprints?
on the VR1 heatsink as I was charging my Android phone on it, a load that was not in the design criteria I am sure ... but it worked magically!

Anyway, back to soldering. When I get to Illinois on April 4th I will start on my Sea Sprinte so my grandkids can see what Popi builds when I am off by myself!

Cheers,

Davey - KU9L


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Re: Revisiting the Tuna Power System kit TPS

 

Additional notes:

As the datasheet shows, the Overcharge RED LED glows when the voltage reaches 14.0 volts, but charging continues until the battery reaches 14.7 volts upon which the charge current tapers off. I think the RUB of me using a LIFEPO4 lithium battery is that the battery BMS charging will shut down the ability to charge typically above 14.6 volts which is why I suddenly saw ~20 volts from the battery reading. This may have confused the 3906N IC which was to start tapering off the charge current prior to going into the 3rd stage, Float at 13.9 volts. Tomorrow I will test this with my 12AH Explorer battery box to see if I get a similar result as I did with my single 6AH battery. Now that I know the states the datasheet targets I can better determine if it meets the specs. Generally, though, my LIFEPO4 solar charge controller may be a better option. I plan to use the TPS Kit stand-alone for POTA and charge the batteries separately.

I noticed zero hum when using a tuna project from my batteries compared to the wall wart that makes tons of hum.

Davey - KU9L

Here is the info from the Data Sheet:

This?charger circuit diagram?is based on the?UC3906 battery charger controller?that contains all of the necessary circuitry to control the charge and hold cycle for sealed lead-acid batteries. The UC3906 battery charger circuit is specifically designed to provide the proper charging voltage and current determined by the temperature and state of charge of the battery.
The UC3906 battery charger circuit controller monitor and control both the output voltage and current of the charger through three separate charge states .
UC3906? has separate voltage loop and current limit amplifiers which regulate the output voltage and current levels in the charger by controlling the onboard driver.The charger circuit requires 18 to 22 volts DC input.? Three optical ( LED ) indicators show the charge state .? The UC3906 IC is configured to provide three charge states:
Bulk charge ¨C the charger operates in a constant-current charge mode until the battery reaches the programmed full-charge voltage.

Overcharge ¨C when the voltage reaches the programmed full-charge voltage, the charger switches to overcharge mode to ¡®top-off¡¯ the battery.
Float charge ¨C when the current decreases to the minimum overcharge current, the charger enters the float charge mode.
Voltage and current sense comparators are used to sense the battery condition and respond with logic inputs to the charge state logic.
How works these three states modes ?

If the battery voltage is between 10.2 and 12.2 volts? ( when charger is connected to the battery )? charging begins at the programmed bulk charge current and continues until the voltage rises to 14.0 volts. In this state mode only the power LED is illuminated .
When the voltage exceeds 14.0 volts, the overcharge LED illuminates (charger has entered in the overcharge mode) and charging continues. The charge current remains at the programmed bulk charge rate until the battery voltage reaches 14.7 volts.
When the battery voltage reaches 14.7 volts, the charging current begins to taper off.
When it decreases to 1/10 ?of the bulk charge current, the overcharge LED extinguishes and the float LED illuminates to indicate that the charger has entered the float charge mode (voltage is maintained at 13.9 volts ). ?The TIP transistor must be mounted on a heatsink , to prevent the damage of it cause of high temperature .



On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 07:38:00 PM EDT, David Knapp via groups.io <renewables@...> wrote:


Now that we have stable power at the campground again and I needed to finish up my projects as we are leaving FL this weekend, I decided to finish up my Tuna Power System Kit.

This kit is a central power distribution kit for all of my tuna can kits, it also will charge a sealed lead acid (SLA) battery with an 18-20 volt charging input. The kit is set up for wall warts outputting from 0.4 - 1.0 charging amps.

I don't follow instructions well, ask my teachers from grade school! I believe in populating data points wherever I can. Assembly was halted because I was missing three 1K ohm resistors out of four the kit claimed to need. Because our campground had no power for 36 hours and no internet, I could not attend the Buildathon live. However, after the power came back on and then became stable (they doubled the size of the transformer), I decided to finish my TPS kit.

I bought a box of Diodes, 1/4w, 1/2w, & 2w resistors assortment to cover for those missing parts. In my case, I was missing three 1K ohm 1/4w metal film resistors but was given three 3.3K ohm resistors by accident. In this case, I calculated that those would not work in the place of the missing parts.

Anyway, I finished the assembly and even made a couple of mods to add a digital voltmeter at both the Battery input and the solar input so I could determine charging potential.

I went to buy an SLA battery but found a cheap Chinese 6ah LIFEPO4 lithium battery instead. I wondered if it could be used in the TPS kit.

I plugged it in and the TPS kit sprung to life with 13.3 volts of output. I then plugged in a 20-watt solar panel that claims 20 volts open circuit and 18 volts at full 1.0 amp output!!!!? Since this was a little higher than Rex or Chuck intended (0.7 amp max), I removed the 1n4004 1.0 amp rectifier and replaced it with a 3.0-amp 1N5404 diode instead. The 20-watt solar panel sprung to life at 17.5-volts and with whispy clouds, I was measuring between 0.7 - 1.0 amps via my amp clamp meter on the solar plus input.

The green LED illuminated to show charging and the battery voltage slowly began rising. Once it got to 13.8 volts I thought, "Well, the charge regulation should kick in now!" But it didn't, it continued to climb to 14.0 volts, 14.1, 14.3, 14.5, and 14.6 volts ... whew! Suddenly it jumped to 20.5 volts!!!! Oh my!!!

Why is this? Well, the battery voltage continued to hover around 14.6 volts, but the BMS (Battery Management System)? detects the higher voltage that the charging circuit tries to ramp up to and it disconnects the charging to protect itself. The battery still provides a 14.6-volt output, but the charging circuit with a near-zero amperage sees an open circuit that matches the voltage input from the solar panel.

Now, this would not be good for a radio's sensitive input voltage, but since it was an open circuit voltage I put a load on it and the voltage came right down. I am not sure why the UC3906N IC circuit did not limit itself to 13.8 volts since that is what I would expect with an SLA battery. I moved the TPS kit over to the Explorer battery box that I did a video on and tomorrow I will repeat my experiment to see what happens when the 12AH of LIFEPO4 batteries are near full charge. Tonight the voltage only rose to 13.5 volts as the batteries were chugging along all day powering my 30-watt 12-volt DC soldering iron. I triple-checked my TPS kit and verified all resistors, two capacitors, IC, and voltage regulators were installed correctly and at the proper values. So aside from the 13.8-volt regulation voltage, I declare the kit to be a success.?

I have a 24-amp MPPT solar charge controller that I charge my Explorer box with so I don't really need the charging circuit of the TPS kit, but I did try out the USB charging circuit and it worked perfectly. I left my fingerprints?
on the VR1 heatsink as I was charging my Android phone on it, a load that was not in the design criteria I am sure ... but it worked magically!

Anyway, back to soldering. When I get to Illinois on April 4th I will start on my Sea Sprinte so my grandkids can see what Popi builds when I am off by myself!

Cheers,

Davey - KU9L


Inline image





Revisiting the Tuna Power System kit TPS

 

Now that we have stable power at the campground again and I needed to finish up my projects as we are leaving FL this weekend, I decided to finish up my Tuna Power System Kit.

This kit is a central power distribution kit for all of my tuna can kits, it also will charge a sealed lead acid (SLA) battery with an 18-20 volt charging input. The kit is set up for wall warts outputting from 0.4 - 1.0 charging amps.

I don't follow instructions well, ask my teachers from grade school! I believe in populating data points wherever I can. Assembly was halted because I was missing three 1K ohm resistors out of four the kit claimed to need. Because our campground had no power for 36 hours and no internet, I could not attend the Buildathon live. However, after the power came back on and then became stable (they doubled the size of the transformer), I decided to finish my TPS kit.

I bought a box of Diodes, 1/4w, 1/2w, & 2w resistors assortment to cover for those missing parts. In my case, I was missing three 1K ohm 1/4w metal film resistors but was given three 3.3K ohm resistors by accident. In this case, I calculated that those would not work in the place of the missing parts.

Anyway, I finished the assembly and even made a couple of mods to add a digital voltmeter at both the Battery input and the solar input so I could determine charging potential.

I went to buy an SLA battery but found a cheap Chinese 6ah LIFEPO4 lithium battery instead. I wondered if it could be used in the TPS kit.

I plugged it in and the TPS kit sprung to life with 13.3 volts of output. I then plugged in a 20-watt solar panel that claims 20 volts open circuit and 18 volts at full 1.0 amp output!!!!? Since this was a little higher than Rex or Chuck intended (0.7 amp max), I removed the 1n4004 1.0 amp rectifier and replaced it with a 3.0-amp 1N5404 diode instead. The 20-watt solar panel sprung to life at 17.5-volts and with whispy clouds, I was measuring between 0.7 - 1.0 amps via my amp clamp meter on the solar plus input.

The green LED illuminated to show charging and the battery voltage slowly began rising. Once it got to 13.8 volts I thought, "Well, the charge regulation should kick in now!" But it didn't, it continued to climb to 14.0 volts, 14.1, 14.3, 14.5, and 14.6 volts ... whew! Suddenly it jumped to 20.5 volts!!!! Oh my!!!

Why is this? Well, the battery voltage continued to hover around 14.6 volts, but the BMS (Battery Management System)? detects the higher voltage that the charging circuit tries to ramp up to and it disconnects the charging to protect itself. The battery still provides a 14.6-volt output, but the charging circuit with a near-zero amperage sees an open circuit that matches the voltage input from the solar panel.

Now, this would not be good for a radio's sensitive input voltage, but since it was an open circuit voltage I put a load on it and the voltage came right down. I am not sure why the UC3906N IC circuit did not limit itself to 13.8 volts since that is what I would expect with an SLA battery. I moved the TPS kit over to the Explorer battery box that I did a video on and tomorrow I will repeat my experiment to see what happens when the 12AH of LIFEPO4 batteries are near full charge. Tonight the voltage only rose to 13.5 volts as the batteries were chugging along all day powering my 30-watt 12-volt DC soldering iron. I triple-checked my TPS kit and verified all resistors, two capacitors, IC, and voltage regulators were installed correctly and at the proper values. So aside from the 13.8-volt regulation voltage, I declare the kit to be a success.?

I have a 24-amp MPPT solar charge controller that I charge my Explorer box with so I don't really need the charging circuit of the TPS kit, but I did try out the USB charging circuit and it worked perfectly. I left my fingerprints?
on the VR1 heatsink as I was charging my Android phone on it, a load that was not in the design criteria I am sure ... but it worked magically!

Anyway, back to soldering. When I get to Illinois on April 4th I will start on my Sea Sprinte so my grandkids can see what Popi builds when I am off by myself!

Cheers,

Davey - KU9L


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Re: Photo of my Sea Sprite+ in my ham shack

 

Well, mine is a Version 2.0 not a 6.0.? Built sometime ago.? And converted to 20M later.? You will enjoy the Sprite I think.

Curt KB5JO


Re: After Building a Two Tinned Tunas EZ Build, what next?

 

Daniel,

My first QRPMe kit was recommended by another rock climber and QRPist that liked the (I think it was) Sudden Storm radios that turned into the Rockmite ][ radios.

If you get it with the enclosure it is a nice stable rugged unit with good characteristics. Then there is the z match tuner and the rock topper to bost things and you have a cluster of boxes that work together. But each model is tuned for a band and and the rock topper needs band modules for each band (pesky screws to open it up to change band modules). But the enclosures make it easier to transport without fear of damage. But if you are just in the shack then the tuna tin radios are fine.

I have? a (Tr)uSDX that allows QRP SSB and cw and am and fm in a small package with about 4-5 watts which is another interesting route. Careful of imitations and knock offs. Check the web site for approved suppliers. A little hight price point but not out of range.

? ?Keep on Haming

? ?---John AC9UV

? 73

On 03/26/2023 6:01 PM Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


Hello,
I recently built the Sea Sprite+ for the Buildathon on March 25, 2023.? It works.? It was fun!? And I plan on making mods to improve the radio.??
What QRPme kit would any of you reading this group recommend next?

Sudden Receiver ?
Rock Mite ][ transceiver ?
Super Tin Tuna 5W transmitter?
Lil Squall Transceiver ?
regular Sea Sprite transceiver?
Something else?

73 Daniel KK4MRN

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:25 AM, Daniel KK4MRN wrote:
Hello fans of the can,
What would be a good QRPme radio kit to build next?


Re: After Building a Two Tinned Tunas EZ Build, what next?

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello,
I recently built the Sea Sprite+ for the Buildathon on March 25, 2023.? It works.? It was fun!? And I plan on making mods to improve the radio.??

What QRPme kit would any of you reading this group recommend next?

Sudden Receiver ?
Rock Mite ][ transceiver ?
Super Tin Tuna 5W transmitter?
Lil Squall Transceiver ?
regular Sea Sprite transceiver?
Something else?

73 Daniel KK4MRN


On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:25 AM, Daniel KK4MRN wrote:
Hello fans of the can,
What would be a good QRPme radio kit to build next?


Photo of my Sea Sprite+ in my ham shack

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello all,
I have attached a photo of my Sea Sprite+.? I resized it to make the size smaller.

Thanks to John AC9UV, I learned how to tap off?point "H" and ground to use a 50ohm power meter and 50ohm dummy load to measure QRP power levels or use a different antenna.
?
Anybody else care to share a photo of their Sea Sprite+ in their ham shack or wherever you made contacts?

Please?
?
Once I can make contacts in Morse Code using another rig, I will build and put the end fed half wave antenna in a tree and try to make contacts. I am still learning.? However, I will use my Sea Sprite+ to make contacts on my back porch.? Or, I could just the end fed random wire antenna and 9:1 unun and counterpoise that I already am using, but I need to finish my home brew z-match.
?
73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: 401 Size Can?

 

Daniel,

I think the brass sets have been superseeded by another material because the brass sets were hard to source. I have two of those sets and enjoy their utility.

As to the antenna, As I recall from a previous QRPMe build, you cut 17ft from the 80 ft wire leaving 63 feet of wire for the antenna. Or as I calculate now:

Result:

Frequency:
7.11 MHz
Wavelength:
69.17 ft

So maybe cut off 11ft from the 80 ft.?

That should tune to the frequency of the provided crystal.


I cut off 17 ft. I'll have to check SWR with my antenna analyzer. You can always use a tuner, or add/subtract wire at the end to get a good swr.?

I had a problem with my switching primary and secondary on the output transformer, and have corrected that. It seems to be operating fine but the output is below what I think it should be. That may require the proper antenna with the proper impedance to show greater output. Tests to do.

As to the code. I don't know if I will be confident and ready by the weekend but I may leap in with both feet. The protocal for that kind of contact is limited so that means it may be possible.?

The output signal looks clean, no observable harmonics, kudos to Rex and his team for a good design.

? Maybe I'll see you on the air, if not this weekend, soon.

? ?---John AC9UV

? ?73


On 03/23/2023 2:16 PM Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


Hello,
In my pantry, I found a Great Value (Walmart generic brand) Premium Chunk Chicken Breast in water fully cooked.
NET WT 12.5 OZ (354g).
The Sea Sprite+ pcb fits in it nicely.? However, I have not pulled the top yet.? It expired in 2021 so I may have to toss what is in it.

I got the envelope yesterday with the extra parts.? And I have the kit already.? So, I will try to build the key and wind the coils tonight.? And order things.? I kept Styrofoam from packages I got.? I actually was intending to use them for crystal matching for something else I am building.? But, ordering my sea sprite + kit parts is more important right now.

What about the end fed half wave antenna and counterpoise?? What needs to be done to build it?
.
However, I actually prefer those brass cube pcb holders from QRPme for soldering.? ?I think I want to order more sets of them.? I only have one set of 4.? But I build multiple stuff at the same time.

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello John and Russel,
I hear ya.? I doubt I will be able to make a contact.? I am getting there but I will not be there in time.? I will try to see to make contacts Friday night or Saturday morning before the Buildathon just to see if I can make some contacts using a different radio and antenna.? If I can, that will give me the confidence to try to make a contact with the Sea Sprite+ on Saturday.? I am learning code at the Long Island CW Club speed of 12 WPM.? ?But, I am optimistic in that I will keep practicing to get on the air even once the weekend is over.? ?Really, I think I will be happy if I can at least hear others making contacts using their Sea Sprites on the weekend.? Nothing like operating your own radio you built...

And Chuck says the band conditions may not be great this weekend.? I live on a hill so reception is not that great.? I already use an end fed random wire antenna, 9:1 unun, and counterpoise to get on the air.? So, there are losses.? Not great.? But hey, I can make contacts on 160m - 10m.

So, I ask others to keep trying to make contacts the whole week.? Weekend to weekend.

I will probably be operating on my back porch.? The funny thing is my QSL card has a photo of my back porch with my radio I was operating.

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: 401 Size Can?

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello,
In my pantry, I found a Great Value (Walmart generic brand) Premium Chunk Chicken Breast in water fully cooked.
NET WT 12.5 OZ (354g).
The Sea Sprite+ pcb fits in it nicely.? However, I have not pulled the top yet.? It expired in 2021 so I may have to toss what is in it.

I got the envelope yesterday with the extra parts.? And I have the kit already.? So, I will try to build the key and wind the coils tonight.? And order things.? I kept Styrofoam from packages I got.? I actually was intending to use them for crystal matching for something else I am building.? But, ordering my sea sprite + kit parts is more important right now.

What about the end fed half wave antenna and counterpoise?? What needs to be done to build it?
.
However, I actually prefer those brass cube pcb holders from QRPme for soldering.? ?I think I want to order more sets of them.? I only have one set of 4.? But I build multiple stuff at the same time.

73 Daniel KK4MRN


My Sea Sprite+ Kit for the Buildathon arrived in the mail

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello,
My Sea Sprite+ kit arrived in the mail to day.? I was waiting at the door today when the mail man arrived...

See the attached photos.? Ooooh!? ?Awwww!? ?Cooool...

The hardest part about this kit - trying to contain myself and wait for the Buildathon to start on Saturday, March 25th...

But, I can go ahead and build the end fed half-wave antenna, the straight key, and wind the toroid coils.? ?How early can I start on these 3 things?? ?

I did create an un-boxing video but I made a mistake.? I took the video of my package which had all my info.? So, I tried to blur it.? But it takes YouTube Studio hours to blur parts.? I did the blur twice.? And still found a few more frames that had the info I wanted blurred.? So, I gave up.? However, If others still want to see it, I can work on it a little more and then make the video public.? ?Or redo the video but the package has already been cut open.? ? Now, my bag of parts has not been opened yet, that won't happen until I start building something...? Probably best if I get a plastic container with a good lid and put my parts there.? Less likely to lose parts that way.

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Dinner and a chasis

 

Group,

Found some cans at Jewel foods. Dollar General did not have anything.

Good Chicken salad sandwich. I added a half limes juice and it spiced it right up.

---John AC9UV


Re: Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

 

Daniel,

We will see, my code comprehension is not strong yet. That Sunday is also XYL's birthday so may not have much time to get on the air. But will try. I have been excersizing the CWOps online code excersize program.

? ?Hope to hear you online,

---John AC9UV?

On 03/15/2023 8:14 AM Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


Hello?John Putnum, AC9UV and others,

Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

I am still trying.? Numbers are the hard thing for me.? I am learning at 12 WPM like Long Island CW Club is doing.? I got less than 2 weeks!

So, if you hear an idiot on 40m this weekend sending bad code, it could be me...? ?LOL? ?Just reply and say hello.

Long Island CW Club has started a Sked page and a Code Buddy program.? I think they have a chat thing now too and some Discord thing too.? A good way for cw ops to meet up and make contacts to help improve their code skills.? ?

And of course, SKCC Group has their Sked page.? SKCC Group membership is free.

Nothing like being able to operate and make contacts on your own radio you built with your own hands...

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Re: Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

 

Daniel,

The single most important Morse Code skill is tenacity.? Here's what I'd tell anyone who is learning (or like me that has done it for years, sometimes with gaps in operating activity). Just do it and don't worry about it. That's 99.99% of it. If you mess up, you still made a contact. You got some practice and maybe a QSL card in the mail. If you can send nothing more than 599 TU and your callsign, you can work DX with the best of them. I promise.

If you've made CW contacts before, ignore my comments or read them and laugh at my stupidity. If not, it might help. I've had plenty of times where I've gotten behind the 8-ball, so to speak, and just got through the QSO as quickly as possible and moved on. That's normal. Go slow. Follow the normal format and don't vary too much from it at first. Chatting can come later. You'll also find that with most ops that have been doing it a while, there isn't a hard and fast, rigid procedure.? I mean, you do hear <AR> <SK>, etc., but everything else more like phone.? It's relatively rare to hear stuff like :

CQ CQ CQ DE KK4MRN KK4MRN KK4MRN K? <--- 3x3 is good. I usually do 3 x 2 or 3x3.

KK4MRN DE N0QLT N0QLT N0QLT K? ?<----------------? You're more likely to hear someone just send their call once or twice.??

Then you will probably hear N0QLT K? ?instead of N0QLT N0QLT N0QLT DE KK4MRN? KN

Some will argue that short form is sloppy operating. I think both are fine. I'm not a stickler for 13th decimal place precision and it's maybe a bit more natural (conversational) to do contrary to the established QSO "rules."? You do need to know how to do it though. It just isn't as common as it was when I was in the Novice bands 30+ years ago. It's something to be aware of. You'll eventually find that CW is a lot more like phone in casual operation than you'd have guessed.

Here's what IS important, though. The old Novice-Contact format is really useful and makes a nice stress-free contact because you know what's included. SKCC does a version of this. I imaging LI CW does, too:

I DO NOT do the whole send the other station's callsign DE me thing with every transmission. Not necessary. You know who you are talking to.

CQ CQ CQ DE N0QLT N0QLT N0QLT K

KK4MRN.

KK4MRN TU.? UR 599 599 IN MO MO. OP RUSTY RUSTY. SKCC 1074 1074. TNX QSO ES 73. K

TU, RUSTY. UR 339 339 IN KY (I forgot your state!) KY.? OP Daniel SKCC 123456 123456 TNX ES 73. DE KK4MRN <SK> DIT DIT

73, DANIEL. DE N0QLT <SK> DIT DIT


It's still pretty much the old Novice format, just a little shorter and less formal than:

CQ CQ CQ DE N0QLT N0QLT N0QLT K

N0QLT N0QLT N0QLT DE KK4MRN KK4MRN KK4MRN K


KK4MRN KK4 MRN DE N0QLT N0QLT K

N0QLT DE KK4MRN??

THANKS FER THE CALL. UR RST IS 599 599 NAME IS RUSTY RUSTY. QTH IS JOPLIN, MO JOPLIN, MO. HW CPY??

KK4MRN DE N0QLT KN

...? and so on.


There's nothing wrong with either. The information is the same, but the SKCC format is a bit shorter.??

The big thing is that either format gives you a framework to keep the pressure off.? You know what is expected (although sometimes the order will be rearranged) and you can be looking for it. It's hard for new CW ops to go about getting all the i's dotted and t's crossed and have to copy long chats right off the bat.? Stick to the basics for now: RST, QTH, Name, 73.? It's really that simple and you'll be surprised at how fast you get better. And even if you don't (you will), you still are reliably making contacts. It's supposed to be about fun, right?? ?I'm an average (at best) CW op. I'll probably never make CW Ops, FOC, or get an award for saving the Titanic II from sinking. But CW IS my favorite mode. I hated it when I was learning it, but it grew on me. It's the majority of all the operating I do these days. And about 50% or more is QRP @ 2W or below with homebrew or kit radios. The other 50% or so is chasing DX.?What you get out of the hobby is what you want to get out of it.? And that might change over time.

One other thing... A QRP secret: At least at first, answer the loud stations. If you can hear them well, you've likely got a decent shot in the clear. And don't mention QRP. Uttering those 3 letters on the air will often drop your signal 10dB or more.? UR 579... What? you're running 1W? Oh, your signal is now 119 w/ QSB... ;)


Hope that helps some!

-HRS

?

H. Russell Smith, N0QLT??? ?????????????????????????????


On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 08:14:32 AM CDT, Daniel KK4MRN via groups.io <sqldan2000@...> wrote:


Hello?John Putnum, AC9UV and others,

Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

I am still trying.? Numbers are the hard thing for me.? I am learning at 12 WPM like Long Island CW Club is doing.? I got less than 2 weeks!

So, if you hear an idiot on 40m this weekend sending bad code, it could be me...? ?LOL? ?Just reply and say hello.

Long Island CW Club has started a Sked page and a Code Buddy program.? I think they have a chat thing now too and some Discord thing too.? A good way for cw ops to meet up and make contacts to help improve their code skills.? ?

And of course, SKCC Group has their Sked page.? SKCC Group membership is free.

Nothing like being able to operate and make contacts on your own radio you built with your own hands...

73 Daniel KK4MRN


Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

Daniel KK4MRN
 

Hello?John Putnum, AC9UV and others,

Are your Morse Code skills ready for the Buildathon on March 25th?

I am still trying.? Numbers are the hard thing for me.? I am learning at 12 WPM like Long Island CW Club is doing.? I got less than 2 weeks!

So, if you hear an idiot on 40m this weekend sending bad code, it could be me...? ?LOL? ?Just reply and say hello.

Long Island CW Club has started a Sked page and a Code Buddy program.? I think they have a chat thing now too and some Discord thing too.? A good way for cw ops to meet up and make contacts to help improve their code skills.? ?

And of course, SKCC Group has their Sked page.? SKCC Group membership is free.

Nothing like being able to operate and make contacts on your own radio you built with your own hands...

73 Daniel KK4MRN