Congrats to Connie(W6EFI) and Jeff(AJ6WX) for their interesting and informative articles in the current issue of PAARAgraphs. Things seem to be going well for you, Jeff, at SLAC and I look forward to more adventures of the Industrial Archeologist. K6OKDave
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I was unable to access the current PAARAGRAPH on the club site--suggestions?
Thanks, --David KM6RI
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Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
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Doug, KI6DS?
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Working at SLAC is fun. They want me to go out looking around, figuring stuff out. Everything is at my disposal. Pay is low, but it's a real university of high power electronics. Every chassis I troubleshoot has embedded intelligence, from engineers of far-flung fields. It's like an abandoned empire. Authors are long gone. I'm an industrial archeologist.
Occasionally I go into the "electrical alcoves" along the Klystron Gallery. There is one for each of 30 sectors. Every other sector has a bathroom. Operators ran the machine from these areas, back in the beginning. I always look at two banks of relays, and reminisce fondly about my dad, and his involvement designing the old Central Control system. The?same relay banks and indicators appear in each sector.? I imagine Dad's team calling out those relays from some catalog, ordering them in bulk, then drawing the wiring diagrams. It all?looks abandoned now. . .? relics of a bygone era. . . .? Whole panels full of indicators are dark. Labels in strips under the indicators have faded into oblivion, now hanging by failing glue, sagging oddly. Modulator # XX available, blue ones read. Modulator # XX Unavailable, Amber ones read. A few bays down, a couple unlabeled indicators still glow, though it's not clear why.?
Two of ten "Sectors" died in the Klystron Gallery the other night,?sectors?25 and 27. I was there alone. Two big breaker panels should have been providing 600 volts, 150 amps, to each of eight modulators. Two big contactors weren't pulling. 16 Klystrons fell silent.
Central control sent me to check the fuses in Sector 26. They sent some kid out there to meet me. He was told to check Fuse 43, in a specific bank of fuses. We looked, but none were blown. (These fuses give a visual indication when they blow.) It was coolant related. Someone told us by phone to look at the flow meter/switches in the mechanical alcove, across the Klystron Gallery, near the pumps. Those showed plenty of flow.
That was intimidating. Two miles of wiring. Thousands of wires. No schematic. I could never figure that out.
Our?department head dispatched an old Asian guy, Sony Nguyen, who brought his schematic. I met him in the dark of night, out at the front guard shack.
Thousands of wires drop into those cabinets, from cable-trays above. These terminate into square terminal boards, each with about 72 terminals. Two "bays"?are filled with them, floor to ceiling, located at the end of a 40'-foot-long rack of equipment. Each bay is four terminal-boards deep, 15 terminal-boards high, packed tightly with wires and terminals. It somewhat resembles a telephone-distribution-center.
Sony went to those terminal blocks, armed with his schematic. He asked me to measure the voltage on a specific terminal. No voltage was there. He checked another terminal. Again nothing. Then he checked the voltage at fuse?43. It was bad. He knew where there was a spare in the fuse-bank, so he replaced it.?
Sony had me pop the plastic cover off one of those old relays, K10. He pushed the armature to verify it was already pulled. It was. I replaced the cover. ?
He had me call Central Control, to see if it was fixed.?
An announcement came over the PA system, warning people the system was coming on.?
Red lights illuminated all along the Klystron Gallery. Then with a clunk, very stern buzzing filled the place. It went back off again briefly. Then it went on and stayed on.?
That¡¯s the way it sounds when it¡¯s running. That buzz?is the pulse repetition rate, 120 pulses per second.?
The operator called to thank us. Sony went home.? Grasshopper type fuses were chosen for this design. These come mounted in odd black plastic frames, about the size of memory cards for cameras. Each has three terminals, with each sporting a spring loaded lever and relay contacts. The spring tugs the fuse-link taught. When a fuse-link blows, it releases the lever, which pops into view. The relay contacts close, hopefully lighting an indicator at the end of the fuse bank. But 60 years of corrosion only broke the fuse element. The?lever never?changed positions, so we couldn't see it. Contacts never closed. The indicator didn't glow.
. . . those relays weren¡¯t abandoned after all.?
I remember seeing a plexiglass cabinet full of relays, all different brands, endlessly clicking away near Dad¡¯s office. A mechanical counter tallied the operations. Life testing was underway.? A nearby Geiger Counter clicked semi-randomly too.
Recently I went into the building where Dad's office once was. I almost expected to see that plexiglass box, full of relays, clicking away, still undergoing an eternal life test,?with the Geiger Counter still randomly ticking. They're gone.?
The real life-test is still running, 60 years and counting now, out there in the Klystron Gallery.?
I pulled up Sony's schematic on my computer, and started looking at it. As with any old hand drawn schematic, I'm pretty sure a couple of mistakes are making it hard to understand. I'll print it and go to Sony for clarification. I love the feeling of a two-mile-long machine, with 100?relays in each of 30 electrical alcoves, all shown on a three-foot-long schematic (well enough for Sony to troubleshoot it). The plot thickens. . . .?
Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
?
Doug, KI6DS?
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thank you for the shout out, Dave! ? Jeff's stuff is so cool (kinda like Jeff :-) ?) and well-written. ? I'm glad you submitted it to the newsletter, Jeff. ?
Mine is just a presentation announcement (I'm presenting next Friday). ? ? I'll post a copy of the announcement later when I get to my computer. ? Also the presentation is on my github. ??
Best, Connie W6EFI
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:22, Jeff Reagan via groups.io < jeffreagan@...> wrote:
Working at SLAC is fun. They want me to go out looking around, figuring stuff out. Everything is at my disposal. Pay is low, but it's a real university of high power electronics. Every chassis I troubleshoot has embedded intelligence, from engineers of far-flung fields. It's like an abandoned empire. Authors are long gone. I'm an industrial archeologist.
Occasionally I go into the "electrical alcoves" along the Klystron Gallery. There is one for each of 30 sectors. Every other sector has a bathroom. Operators ran the machine from these areas, back in the beginning. I always look at two banks of relays, and reminisce fondly about my dad, and his involvement designing the old Central Control system. The?same relay banks and indicators appear in each sector.? I imagine Dad's team calling out those relays from some catalog, ordering them in bulk, then drawing the wiring diagrams. It all?looks abandoned now. . .? relics of a bygone era. . . .? Whole panels full of indicators are dark. Labels in strips under the indicators have faded into oblivion, now hanging by failing glue, sagging oddly. Modulator # XX available, blue ones read. Modulator # XX Unavailable, Amber ones read. A few bays down, a couple unlabeled indicators still glow, though it's not clear why.?
Two of ten "Sectors" died in the Klystron Gallery the other night,?sectors?25 and 27. I was there alone. Two big breaker panels should have been providing 600 volts, 150 amps, to each of eight modulators. Two big contactors weren't pulling. 16 Klystrons fell silent.
Central control sent me to check the fuses in Sector 26. They sent some kid out there to meet me. He was told to check Fuse 43, in a specific bank of fuses. We looked, but none were blown. (These fuses give a visual indication when they blow.) It was coolant related. Someone told us by phone to look at the flow meter/switches in the mechanical alcove, across the Klystron Gallery, near the pumps. Those showed plenty of flow.
That was intimidating. Two miles of wiring. Thousands of wires. No schematic. I could never figure that out.
Our?department head dispatched an old Asian guy, Sony Nguyen, who brought his schematic. I met him in the dark of night, out at the front guard shack.
Thousands of wires drop into those cabinets, from cable-trays above. These terminate into square terminal boards, each with about 72 terminals. Two "bays"?are filled with them, floor to ceiling, located at the end of a 40'-foot-long rack of equipment. Each bay is four terminal-boards deep, 15 terminal-boards high, packed tightly with wires and terminals. It somewhat resembles a telephone-distribution-center.
Sony went to those terminal blocks, armed with his schematic. He asked me to measure the voltage on a specific terminal. No voltage was there. He checked another terminal. Again nothing. Then he checked the voltage at fuse?43. It was bad. He knew where there was a spare in the fuse-bank, so he replaced it.?
Sony had me pop the plastic cover off one of those old relays, K10. He pushed the armature to verify it was already pulled. It was. I replaced the cover. ?
He had me call Central Control, to see if it was fixed.?
An announcement came over the PA system, warning people the system was coming on.?
Red lights illuminated all along the Klystron Gallery. Then with a clunk, very stern buzzing filled the place. It went back off again briefly. Then it went on and stayed on.?
That¡¯s the way it sounds when it¡¯s running. That buzz?is the pulse repetition rate, 120 pulses per second.?
The operator called to thank us. Sony went home.?
Grasshopper type fuses were chosen for this design. These come mounted in odd black plastic frames, about the size of memory cards for cameras. Each has three terminals, with each sporting a spring loaded lever and relay contacts. The spring tugs the fuse-link taught. When a fuse-link blows, it releases the lever, which pops into view. The relay contacts close, hopefully lighting an indicator at the end of the fuse bank. But 60 years of corrosion only broke the fuse element. The?lever never?changed positions, so we couldn't see it. Contacts never closed. The indicator didn't glow.
. . . those relays weren¡¯t abandoned after all.?
I remember seeing a plexiglass cabinet full of relays, all different brands, endlessly clicking away near Dad¡¯s office. A mechanical counter tallied the operations. Life testing was underway.? A nearby Geiger Counter clicked semi-randomly too.
Recently I went into the building where Dad's office once was. I almost expected to see that plexiglass box, full of relays, clicking away, still undergoing an eternal life test,?with the Geiger Counter still randomly ticking. They're gone.?
The real life-test is still running, 60 years and counting now, out there in the Klystron Gallery.?
I pulled up Sony's schematic on my computer, and started looking at it. As with any old hand drawn schematic, I'm pretty sure a couple of mistakes are making it hard to understand. I'll print it and go to Sony for clarification. I love the feeling of a two-mile-long machine, with 100?relays in each of 30 electrical alcoves, all shown on a three-foot-long schematic (well enough for Sony to troubleshoot it). The plot thickens. . . .?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 9:10?AM Doug Hendricks via
<ki6ds1=
[email protected]> wrote:
Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
?
Doug, KI6DS?
-- Connie KN2EFI
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Yes, Jeff has become the Indiana Jones of our group. ?Careful with that bullwhip out at the Baylands Jeff.
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On Dec 27, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Connie W6EFI via groups.io <stillinger@...> wrote:
? thank you for the shout out, Dave! ? Jeff's stuff is so cool (kinda like Jeff :-) ?) and well-written. ? I'm glad you submitted it to the newsletter, Jeff. ?
Mine is just a presentation announcement (I'm presenting next Friday). ? ? I'll post a copy of the announcement later when I get to my computer. ? Also the presentation is on my github. ??
Best, Connie W6EFI
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:22, Jeff Reagan via groups.io < jeffreagan@...> wrote:
Working at SLAC is fun. They want me to go out looking around, figuring stuff out. Everything is at my disposal. Pay is low, but it's a real university of high power electronics. Every chassis I troubleshoot has embedded intelligence, from engineers of far-flung fields. It's like an abandoned empire. Authors are long gone. I'm an industrial archeologist.
Occasionally I go into the "electrical alcoves" along the Klystron Gallery. There is one for each of 30 sectors. Every other sector has a bathroom. Operators ran the machine from these areas, back in the beginning. I always look at two banks of relays, and reminisce fondly about my dad, and his involvement designing the old Central Control system. The?same relay banks and indicators appear in each sector.? I imagine Dad's team calling out those relays from some catalog, ordering them in bulk, then drawing the wiring diagrams. It all?looks abandoned now. . .? relics of a bygone era. . . .? Whole panels full of indicators are dark. Labels in strips under the indicators have faded into oblivion, now hanging by failing glue, sagging oddly. Modulator # XX available, blue ones read. Modulator # XX Unavailable, Amber ones read. A few bays down, a couple unlabeled indicators still glow, though it's not clear why.?
Two of ten "Sectors" died in the Klystron Gallery the other night,?sectors?25 and 27. I was there alone. Two big breaker panels should have been providing 600 volts, 150 amps, to each of eight modulators. Two big contactors weren't pulling. 16 Klystrons fell silent.
Central control sent me to check the fuses in Sector 26. They sent some kid out there to meet me. He was told to check Fuse 43, in a specific bank of fuses. We looked, but none were blown. (These fuses give a visual indication when they blow.) It was coolant related. Someone told us by phone to look at the flow meter/switches in the mechanical alcove, across the Klystron Gallery, near the pumps. Those showed plenty of flow.
That was intimidating. Two miles of wiring. Thousands of wires. No schematic. I could never figure that out.
Our?department head dispatched an old Asian guy, Sony Nguyen, who brought his schematic. I met him in the dark of night, out at the front guard shack.
Thousands of wires drop into those cabinets, from cable-trays above. These terminate into square terminal boards, each with about 72 terminals. Two "bays"?are filled with them, floor to ceiling, located at the end of a 40'-foot-long rack of equipment. Each bay is four terminal-boards deep, 15 terminal-boards high, packed tightly with wires and terminals. It somewhat resembles a telephone-distribution-center.
Sony went to those terminal blocks, armed with his schematic. He asked me to measure the voltage on a specific terminal. No voltage was there. He checked another terminal. Again nothing. Then he checked the voltage at fuse?43. It was bad. He knew where there was a spare in the fuse-bank, so he replaced it.?
Sony had me pop the plastic cover off one of those old relays, K10. He pushed the armature to verify it was already pulled. It was. I replaced the cover. ?
He had me call Central Control, to see if it was fixed.?
An announcement came over the PA system, warning people the system was coming on.?
Red lights illuminated all along the Klystron Gallery. Then with a clunk, very stern buzzing filled the place. It went back off again briefly. Then it went on and stayed on.?
That¡¯s the way it sounds when it¡¯s running. That buzz?is the pulse repetition rate, 120 pulses per second.?
The operator called to thank us. Sony went home.?
Grasshopper type fuses were chosen for this design. These come mounted in odd black plastic frames, about the size of memory cards for cameras. Each has three terminals, with each sporting a spring loaded lever and relay contacts. The spring tugs the fuse-link taught. When a fuse-link blows, it releases the lever, which pops into view. The relay contacts close, hopefully lighting an indicator at the end of the fuse bank. But 60 years of corrosion only broke the fuse element. The?lever never?changed positions, so we couldn't see it. Contacts never closed. The indicator didn't glow.
. . . those relays weren¡¯t abandoned after all.?
I remember seeing a plexiglass cabinet full of relays, all different brands, endlessly clicking away near Dad¡¯s office. A mechanical counter tallied the operations. Life testing was underway.? A nearby Geiger Counter clicked semi-randomly too.
Recently I went into the building where Dad's office once was. I almost expected to see that plexiglass box, full of relays, clicking away, still undergoing an eternal life test,?with the Geiger Counter still randomly ticking. They're gone.?
The real life-test is still running, 60 years and counting now, out there in the Klystron Gallery.?
I pulled up Sony's schematic on my computer, and started looking at it. As with any old hand drawn schematic, I'm pretty sure a couple of mistakes are making it hard to understand. I'll print it and go to Sony for clarification. I love the feeling of a two-mile-long machine, with 100?relays in each of 30 electrical alcoves, all shown on a three-foot-long schematic (well enough for Sony to troubleshoot it). The plot thickens. . . .?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 9:10?AM Doug Hendricks via
<ki6ds1=
[email protected]> wrote:
Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
?
Doug, KI6DS?
-- Connie KN2EFI
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Yes, nicely done!?
Jeff, you're half way there, how about the Halloween version!??
We're fortunate on the ship, all the cables are nicely labeled and the schematics are readable and mostly right
My dad worked at LBL but occasionally was loaned to SLAC.? I think for something about PEP magnet power supplies, but I remember tagging along to run an optical TDR on an optical fiber along the linear accelerator.? Better than going to school.? High tech in 1976...
Cliff K6CLS
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On December 27, 2024 10:45:20 AM PST, "David Pollack via groups.io" <depollack42@...> wrote:
Yes, Jeff has become the Indiana Jones of our group. ?Careful with that bullwhip out at the Baylands Jeff. On Dec 27, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Connie W6EFI via groups.io <stillinger@...> wrote:
? thank you for the shout out, Dave! ? Jeff's stuff is so cool (kinda like Jeff :-) ?) and well-written. ? I'm glad you submitted it to the newsletter, Jeff. ?
Mine is just a presentation announcement (I'm presenting next Friday). ? ? I'll post a copy of the announcement later when I get to my computer. ? Also the presentation is on my github. ??
Best, Connie W6EFI
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:22, Jeff Reagan via groups.io < jeffreagan@...> wrote:
Working at SLAC is fun. They want me to go out looking around, figuring stuff out. Everything is at my disposal. Pay is low, but it's a real university of high power electronics. Every chassis I troubleshoot has embedded intelligence, from engineers of far-flung fields. It's like an abandoned empire. Authors are long gone. I'm an industrial archeologist.
Occasionally I go into the "electrical alcoves" along the Klystron Gallery. There is one for each of 30 sectors. Every other sector has a bathroom. Operators ran the machine from these areas, back in the beginning. I always look at two banks of relays, and reminisce fondly about my dad, and his involvement designing the old Central Control system. The?same relay banks and indicators appear in each sector.? I imagine Dad's team calling out those relays from some catalog, ordering them in bulk, then drawing the wiring diagrams. It all?looks abandoned now. . .? relics of a bygone era. . . .? Whole panels full of indicators are dark. Labels in strips under the indicators have faded into oblivion, now hanging by failing glue, sagging oddly. Modulator # XX available, blue ones read. Modulator # XX Unavailable, Amber ones read. A few bays down, a couple unlabeled indicators still glow, though it's not clear why.?
Two of ten "Sectors" died in the Klystron Gallery the other night,?sectors?25 and 27. I was there alone. Two big breaker panels should have been providing 600 volts, 150 amps, to each of eight modulators. Two big contactors weren't pulling. 16 Klystrons fell silent.
Central control sent me to check the fuses in Sector 26. They sent some kid out there to meet me. He was told to check Fuse 43, in a specific bank of fuses. We looked, but none were blown. (These fuses give a visual indication when they blow.) It was coolant related. Someone told us by phone to look at the flow meter/switches in the mechanical alcove, across the Klystron Gallery, near the pumps. Those showed plenty of flow.
That was intimidating. Two miles of wiring. Thousands of wires. No schematic. I could never figure that out.
Our?department head dispatched an old Asian guy, Sony Nguyen, who brought his schematic. I met him in the dark of night, out at the front guard shack.
Thousands of wires drop into those cabinets, from cable-trays above. These terminate into square terminal boards, each with about 72 terminals. Two "bays"?are filled with them, floor to ceiling, located at the end of a 40'-foot-long rack of equipment. Each bay is four terminal-boards deep, 15 terminal-boards high, packed tightly with wires and terminals. It somewhat resembles a telephone-distribution-center.
Sony went to those terminal blocks, armed with his schematic. He asked me to measure the voltage on a specific terminal. No voltage was there. He checked another terminal. Again nothing. Then he checked the voltage at fuse?43. It was bad. He knew where there was a spare in the fuse-bank, so he replaced it.?
Sony had me pop the plastic cover off one of those old relays, K10. He pushed the armature to verify it was already pulled. It was. I replaced the cover. ?
He had me call Central Control, to see if it was fixed.?
An announcement came over the PA system, warning people the system was coming on.?
Red lights illuminated all along the Klystron Gallery. Then with a clunk, very stern buzzing filled the place. It went back off again briefly. Then it went on and stayed on.?
That¡¯s the way it sounds when it¡¯s running. That buzz?is the pulse repetition rate, 120 pulses per second.?
The operator called to thank us. Sony went home.?
Grasshopper type fuses were chosen for this design. These come mounted in odd black plastic frames, about the size of memory cards for cameras. Each has three terminals, with each sporting a spring loaded lever and relay contacts. The spring tugs the fuse-link taught. When a fuse-link blows, it releases the lever, which pops into view. The relay contacts close, hopefully lighting an indicator at the end of the fuse bank. But 60 years of corrosion only broke the fuse element. The?lever never?changed positions, so we couldn't see it. Contacts never closed. The indicator didn't glow.
. . . those relays weren¡¯t abandoned after all.?
I remember seeing a plexiglass cabinet full of relays, all different brands, endlessly clicking away near Dad¡¯s office. A mechanical counter tallied the operations. Life testing was underway.? A nearby Geiger Counter clicked semi-randomly too.
Recently I went into the building where Dad's office once was. I almost expected to see that plexiglass box, full of relays, clicking away, still undergoing an eternal life test,?with the Geiger Counter still randomly ticking. They're gone.?
The real life-test is still running, 60 years and counting now, out there in the Klystron Gallery.?
I pulled up Sony's schematic on my computer, and started looking at it. As with any old hand drawn schematic, I'm pretty sure a couple of mistakes are making it hard to understand. I'll print it and go to Sony for clarification. I love the feeling of a two-mile-long machine, with 100?relays in each of 30 electrical alcoves, all shown on a three-foot-long schematic (well enough for Sony to troubleshoot it). The plot thickens. . . .?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 9:10?AM Doug Hendricks via
<ki6ds1=
[email protected]> wrote:
Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
?
Doug, KI6DS?
-- Connie KN2EFI
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Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have? no idea what any of them mean.
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SLAC. ???
LBL ???
PEP. ???
TDR. ???
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But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent writing.?
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Doug, KI6DS?
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SLAC once stood for Stanford Linear Accelerator. The Department of Energy runs it on land leased from Stanford. Due to a trademark dispute, it's just SLAC now. Stanford is no longer part of the official acronym.?
The?accelerator is located under a long building that goes under Highway 280, near Sand Hill Road. That building is 2 miles long, and it's called the Klystron Gallery. Klystrons accelerate electrons along a beamline, located 35' feet below the Klystron Gallery.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 11:50?AM Doug Hendricks via <ki6ds1= [email protected]> wrote: Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have? no idea what any of them mean.
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SLAC. ???
LBL ???
PEP. ???
TDR. ???
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But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent writing.?
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Doug, KI6DS?
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Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs. Not LLL, Livermore Labs. Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really little. Still have a couple surplus furniture items marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry. Used to estimate distance to discontinuity in transmission line. Compare with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain sweeps.
Enjoy!
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On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote: Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have? no idea what any of them mean.
SLAC. ??? LBL ??? PEP. ??? TDR. ???
But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent writing.
Doug, KI6DS
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Here's mine.?? This is the presentation summary.?? No where nearly as interesting or history-laden as Jeff's!
Instant Tuning for a Manual Tuner
Connie Stillinger W6EFI
? A random wire with a small manual
tuner can be an effective antenna setup for portable operations. Add a
portable network analyzer or small VNA to your kit and tuning can be
made more precise, but is still a matter of trial and error, albeit
guided. In this presentation we describe a method for going straight to
the optimum tuner settings, giving a previously-gathered one-time
characterization of the tuner and a one-time sweep of the antenna. This
method is an adaptation of Melville and Hamilton, "Silent Tuning:
Matching a transmitter to an antenna without emitting a signal"? (MILCOM
2021).
?
Dr. Stillinger was originally licensed in the 1970's as WN2EFI --
passed the 5 wpm code test -- but it lapsed before even making it into
the callbook. About two years ago she rediscovered ham radio as a great
way to make friends, hike around parks, and have fun tinkering
together.? She enjoys operating all modes on HF ranging from CW through
Hellschreiber to SSTV.
?
Connie Stillinger
650-380-2018
On Friday, December 27th, 2024 at 10:30 AM, Connie W6EFI via groups.io <stillinger@...> wrote:
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thank you for the shout out, Dave! ? Jeff's stuff is so cool (kinda like Jeff :-) ?) and well-written. ? I'm glad you submitted it to the newsletter, Jeff. ?
Mine is just a presentation announcement (I'm presenting next Friday). ? ? I'll post a copy of the announcement later when I get to my computer. ? Also the presentation is on my github. ??
Best, Connie W6EFI
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:22, Jeff Reagan via groups.io <jeffreagan@...> wrote:
Working at SLAC is fun. They want me to go out looking around, figuring stuff out. Everything is at my disposal. Pay is low, but it's a real university of high power electronics. Every chassis I troubleshoot has embedded intelligence, from engineers of far-flung fields. It's like an abandoned empire. Authors are long gone. I'm an industrial archeologist.
Occasionally I go into the "electrical alcoves" along the Klystron Gallery. There is one for each of 30 sectors. Every other sector has a bathroom. Operators ran the machine from these areas, back in the beginning. I always look at two banks of relays, and reminisce fondly about my dad, and his involvement designing the old Central Control system. The?same relay banks and indicators appear in each sector.? I imagine Dad's team calling out those relays from some catalog, ordering them in bulk, then drawing the wiring diagrams. It all?looks abandoned now. . .? relics of a bygone era. . . .? Whole panels full of indicators are dark. Labels in strips under the indicators have faded into oblivion, now hanging by failing glue, sagging oddly. Modulator # XX available, blue ones read. Modulator # XX Unavailable, Amber ones read. A few bays down, a couple unlabeled indicators still glow, though it's not clear why.?
Two of ten "Sectors" died in the Klystron Gallery the other night,?sectors?25 and 27. I was there alone. Two big breaker panels should have been providing 600 volts, 150 amps, to each of eight modulators. Two big contactors weren't pulling. 16 Klystrons fell silent.
Central control sent me to check the fuses in Sector 26. They sent some kid out there to meet me. He was told to check Fuse 43, in a specific bank of fuses. We looked, but none were blown. (These fuses give a visual indication when they blow.) It was coolant related. Someone told us by phone to look at the flow meter/switches in the mechanical alcove, across the Klystron Gallery, near the pumps. Those showed plenty of flow.
That was intimidating. Two miles of wiring. Thousands of wires. No schematic. I could never figure that out.
Our?department head dispatched an old Asian guy, Sony Nguyen, who brought his schematic. I met him in the dark of night, out at the front guard shack.
Thousands of wires drop into those cabinets, from cable-trays above. These terminate into square terminal boards, each with about 72 terminals. Two "bays"?are filled with them, floor to ceiling, located at the end of a 40'-foot-long rack of equipment. Each bay is four terminal-boards deep, 15 terminal-boards high, packed tightly with wires and terminals. It somewhat resembles a telephone-distribution-center.
Sony went to those terminal blocks, armed with his schematic. He asked me to measure the voltage on a specific terminal. No voltage was there. He checked another terminal. Again nothing. Then he checked the voltage at fuse?43. It was bad. He knew where there was a spare in the fuse-bank, so he replaced it.?
Sony had me pop the plastic cover off one of those old relays, K10. He pushed the armature to verify it was already pulled. It was. I replaced the cover. ?
He had me call Central Control, to see if it was fixed.?
An announcement came over the PA system, warning people the system was coming on.?
Red lights illuminated all along the Klystron Gallery. Then with a clunk, very stern buzzing filled the place. It went back off again briefly. Then it went on and stayed on.?
That¡¯s the way it sounds when it¡¯s running. That buzz?is the pulse repetition rate, 120 pulses per second.?
The operator called to thank us. Sony went home.?
Grasshopper type fuses were chosen for this design. These come mounted in odd black plastic frames, about the size of memory cards for cameras. Each has three terminals, with each sporting a spring loaded lever and relay contacts. The spring tugs the fuse-link taught. When a fuse-link blows, it releases the lever, which pops into view. The relay contacts close, hopefully lighting an indicator at the end of the fuse bank. But 60 years of corrosion only broke the fuse element. The?lever never?changed positions, so we couldn't see it. Contacts never closed. The indicator didn't glow.
. . . those relays weren¡¯t abandoned after all.?
I remember seeing a plexiglass cabinet full of relays, all different brands, endlessly clicking away near Dad¡¯s office. A mechanical counter tallied the operations. Life testing was underway.? A nearby Geiger Counter clicked semi-randomly too.
Recently I went into the building where Dad's office once was. I almost expected to see that plexiglass box, full of relays, clicking away, still undergoing an eternal life test,?with the Geiger Counter still randomly ticking. They're gone.?
The real life-test is still running, 60 years and counting now, out there in the Klystron Gallery.?
I pulled up Sony's schematic on my computer, and started looking at it. As with any old hand drawn schematic, I'm pretty sure a couple of mistakes are making it hard to understand. I'll print it and go to Sony for clarification. I love the feeling of a two-mile-long machine, with 100?relays in each of 30 electrical alcoves, all shown on a three-foot-long schematic (well enough for Sony to troubleshoot it). The plot thickens. . . .?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 9:10?AM Doug Hendricks via
<ki6ds1=
[email protected]> wrote:
Could the authors post their articles here so all may enjoy.
?
Doug, KI6DS?
-- Connie KN2EFI
-- Connie KN2EFI
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TDR is sort of like radar for a transmission line.? If you have a long coax from your shack across the house and up the tower, a TDR can be useful to figure out where the cable is kinked and causing high SWR.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PST, Cliff Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io <cls@...> wrote:
Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs.? Not LLL, Livermore Labs.? Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really little.? Still have a couple surplus furniture items marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry.? Used to estimate distance to discontinuity in transmission line.? Compare with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain sweeps.
Enjoy!
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On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote: >Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have? no idea what any of them mean. > >SLAC. ??? >LBL ??? >PEP. ??? >TDR. ??? > >But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent writing. > >Doug, KI6DS >
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AT&T uses laser based TDR measurements to determine breaks in
their fiber lines.? (Ask me how I know)
Dick
On 12/27/2024 3:35 PM, Paul AA6PZ via
groups.io wrote:
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TDR is sort of like radar for
a transmission line.? If you have a long coax from your shack
across the house and up the tower, a TDR can be useful to
figure out where the cable is kinked and causing high SWR.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PST, Cliff
Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io
<cls@...> wrote:
Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs.? Not LLL, Livermore Labs.?
Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really
little.? Still have a couple surplus furniture items
marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and
antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry.? Used to estimate
distance to discontinuity in transmission line.? Compare
with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain
sweeps.
Enjoy!
On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via
groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
>Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have?
no idea what any of them mean.
>
>SLAC. ???
>LBL ???
>PEP. ???
>TDR. ???
>
>But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent
writing.
>
>Doug, KI6DS
>
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More about TDR
- some antenna analyzers such as my MFJ-269 have a distance to fault mode, which looks for impedance discontinuities.? It works well, about a foot resolution.
- VNAs can also do FDR on S11
<>
Quote for the day:? "Things have come a long way in the around 150 years since Oliver Heaviside successfully applied his mind to location of faults in submarine telegraph cables."
- there are a few "real" TDR projects, at a ham level.
This one has a simple circuit but requires an oscilloscope and a page of hand calculation
<>
- I vaguely recall another TDR project in QST in this century, maybe within the last 10 years?
(ARRL website screwed up my login so I can't go search, anyway I think recent QSTs aren't there?)
- this project uses a signal generator and a scope
<>
- distance resolution is limited by rise time of the pulse signal.? Rule of thumb, one nanosecond is an Admiral Grace Hopper Foot; professional rigs use pulses as short as 50 or 25 picoseconds.? So 1/100th of a foot, is sub millimeter.? Wow.
- I have an AEA portable TDR.? It seems to work.? The LCD screen is very low contrast, so difficult to read.? Probably dates from late 1990s.? For loan if anyone wants.? But honestly the MFJ-269 seems to work better.
Cliff K6CLS
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On December 27, 2024 7:57:25 PM PST, "Dick Grote via groups.io" <dick_grote@...> wrote:
AT&T uses laser based TDR measurements to determine breaks in
their fiber lines.? (Ask me how I know)
Dick
On 12/27/2024 3:35 PM, Paul AA6PZ via
groups.io wrote:
TDR is sort of like radar for
a transmission line.? If you have a long coax from your shack
across the house and up the tower, a TDR can be useful to
figure out where the cable is kinked and causing high SWR.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PST, Cliff
Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io
<cls@...> wrote:
Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs.? Not LLL, Livermore Labs.?
Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really
little.? Still have a couple surplus furniture items
marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and
antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry.? Used to estimate
distance to discontinuity in transmission line.? Compare
with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain
sweeps.
Enjoy!
On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via
groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
>Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have?
no idea what any of them mean.
>
>SLAC. ???
>LBL ???
>PEP. ???
>TDR. ???
>
>But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent
writing.
>
>Doug, KI6DS
>
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At one time in my career, I was working on a high speed (gigabit) digital PCB.?? Used a Tek scope with TDR function to check for impedance discontinuities.? ?
When I would turn it on, the distance scale was set to many feet. I had to manually set it to inches.? This device didn¡¯t seem to have a way to save the settings.? Every morning, I wondered who would want such a long distance.
Then I had problems with the digital service (DSL?) on my home phone.? The lineman used a TDR to find the problem in the phone cable a couple hundred feet away.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 10:34:35 PM PST, Cliff Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io <cls@...> wrote:
More about TDR
- some antenna analyzers such as my MFJ-269 have a distance to fault mode, which looks for impedance discontinuities.? It works well, about a foot resolution.
- VNAs can also do FDR on S11
<>
Quote for the day:? "Things have come a long way in the around 150 years since Oliver Heaviside successfully applied his mind to location of faults in submarine telegraph cables."
- there are a few "real" TDR projects, at a ham level.
This one has a simple circuit but requires an oscilloscope and a page of hand calculation
<>
- I vaguely recall another TDR project in QST in this century, maybe within the last 10 years?
(ARRL website screwed up my login so I can't go search, anyway I think recent QSTs aren't there?)
- this project uses a signal generator and a scope
<>
- distance resolution is limited by rise time of the pulse signal.? Rule of thumb, one nanosecond is an Admiral Grace Hopper Foot; professional rigs use pulses as short as 50 or 25 picoseconds.? So 1/100th of a foot, is sub millimeter.? Wow.
- I have an AEA portable TDR.? It seems to work.? The LCD screen is very low contrast, so difficult to read.? Probably dates from late 1990s.? For loan if anyone wants.? But honestly the MFJ-269 seems to work better.
Cliff K6CLS On December 27, 2024 7:57:25 PM PST, "Dick Grote via groups.io" <dick_grote@...> wrote:
AT&T uses laser based TDR measurements to determine breaks in
their fiber lines.? (Ask me how I know)
Dick
On 12/27/2024 3:35 PM, Paul AA6PZ via
groups.io wrote:
TDR is sort of like radar for
a transmission line.? If you have a long coax from your shack
across the house and up the tower, a TDR can be useful to
figure out where the cable is kinked and causing high SWR.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PST, Cliff
Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io
<cls@...> wrote:
Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs.? Not LLL, Livermore Labs.?
Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really
little.? Still have a couple surplus furniture items
marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and
antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry.? Used to estimate
distance to discontinuity in transmission line.? Compare
with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain
sweeps.
Enjoy!
On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via
groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
>Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have?
no idea what any of them mean.
>
>SLAC. ???
>LBL ???
>PEP. ???
>TDR. ???
>
>But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent
writing.
>
>Doug, KI6DS
>
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Must have been some good fun to work with top level test equipment on a well equipped bench.?
I'd be happy to get a desk with 3 square feet clear right now, ha.
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On December 28, 2024 10:10:09 AM PST, "Paul AA6PZ via groups.io" <aa6pz@...> wrote:
At one time in my career, I was working on a high speed (gigabit) digital PCB.?? Used a Tek scope with TDR function to check for impedance discontinuities.? ?
When I would turn it on, the distance scale was set to many feet. I had to manually set it to inches.? This device didn¡¯t seem to have a way to save the settings.? Every morning, I wondered who would want such a long distance.
Then I had problems with the digital service (DSL?) on my home phone.? The lineman used a TDR to find the problem in the phone cable a couple hundred feet away.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 10:34:35 PM PST, Cliff Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io <cls@...> wrote:
More about TDR
- some antenna analyzers such as my MFJ-269 have a distance to fault mode, which looks for impedance discontinuities.? It works well, about a foot resolution.
- VNAs can also do FDR on S11
<>
Quote for the day:? "Things have come a long way in the around 150 years since Oliver Heaviside successfully applied his mind to location of faults in submarine telegraph cables."
- there are a few "real" TDR projects, at a ham level.
This one has a simple circuit but requires an oscilloscope and a page of hand calculation
<>
- I vaguely recall another TDR project in QST in this century, maybe within the last 10 years?
(ARRL website screwed up my login so I can't go search, anyway I think recent QSTs aren't there?)
- this project uses a signal generator and a scope
<>
- distance resolution is limited by rise time of the pulse signal.? Rule of thumb, one nanosecond is an Admiral Grace Hopper Foot; professional rigs use pulses as short as 50 or 25 picoseconds.? So 1/100th of a foot, is sub millimeter.? Wow.
- I have an AEA portable TDR.? It seems to work.? The LCD screen is very low contrast, so difficult to read.? Probably dates from late 1990s.? For loan if anyone wants.? But honestly the MFJ-269 seems to work better.
Cliff K6CLS On December 27, 2024 7:57:25 PM PST, "Dick Grote via groups.io" <dick_grote@...> wrote:
AT&T uses laser based TDR measurements to determine breaks in
their fiber lines.? (Ask me how I know)
Dick
On 12/27/2024 3:35 PM, Paul AA6PZ via
groups.io wrote:
TDR is sort of like radar for
a transmission line.? If you have a long coax from your shack
across the house and up the tower, a TDR can be useful to
figure out where the cable is kinked and causing high SWR.
On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 12:24:31 PM PST, Cliff
Sojourner K6CLS via groups.io
<cls@...> wrote:
Sorry, Doug
SLAC is Stanford Linear Accelerator
LBL is Lawrence Berkeley Labs.? Not LLL, Livermore Labs.?
Was LRL, Lawrence Radiation Labs, when I was really
little.? Still have a couple surplus furniture items
marked AEC/LRL.
PEP is Positron Electron Project, colliding matter and
antimatter!
TDR is time domain reflectometry.? Used to estimate
distance to discontinuity in transmission line.? Compare
with: impedence bumps can be found with frequency domain
sweeps.
Enjoy!
On December 27, 2024 11:50:21 AM PST, "Doug Hendricks via
groups.io" <ki6ds1@...> wrote:
>Guys would you please explain abbreviations.? ?I have?
no idea what any of them mean.
>
>SLAC. ???
>LBL ???
>PEP. ???
>TDR. ???
>
>But I thoroughly enjoyed Jeff's article.? ?Excellent
writing.
>
>Doug, KI6DS
>
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