Some of you may have already seen this.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100806085734AAwABoZ
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Great. CU then. Hiroki
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On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:18 AM, David W Crocker < dwcae@...> wrote:
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Hiro,
Anke and I would love to come by. We will get there around 12:30 or 1. I will bring my Tony Parks receiver for everybody to take a look at. Get your Illy vertical out that will really impress the wife.
I have been replacing a roof-deck on the house which turned out to be a lot bigger project than I thought, so QRP has been on the back burner for the last month. I think I should have the thing back together by the end of September.
Maybe I will see you at AMTECH today.
Thanks for the invite, Dave W6VYC
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From: Hiroki Kato <hiroki@...> Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday To: QRPops@... Date: Friday,
August 20, 2010, 5:37 PM
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QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only
welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Hiro,
Anke and I would love to come by. We will get there around 12:30 or 1. I will bring my Tony Parks receiver for everybody to take a look at. Get your Illy vertical out that will really impress the wife.
I have been replacing a roof-deck on the house which turned out to be a lot bigger project than I thought, so QRP has been on the back burner for the last month. I think I should have the thing back together by the end of September.
Maybe I will see you at AMTECH today.
Thanks for the invite, Dave W6VYC
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--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Hiroki Kato wrote: From: Hiroki Kato Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday To: QRPops@... Date: Friday,
August 20, 2010, 5:37 PM
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QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only
welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Re: Introducing Ward Harriman, AE6TY
Ward,
Great articles on SDR. I would love to talk to you about your project. I have a Tony Parks SDR receiver that I have been experimenting with using a E-MU sound card and Rocky software. It would be interesting to see if a portable QRP rig could be built using a DSP chip and a small uP, a la NUE-PSK modem but with SSB and other modes.
Dave Crocker W6VYC
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--- On Fri, 8/27/10, eric norris wrote: From: eric norris Subject: [QRPops] Introducing Ward Harriman, AE6TY To: qrpops@..., "Ward AE6TY Harriman" Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 9:39 PM
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Dear QRPopsters:
I'm introducing Ward Harriman, AE6TY, to the group.? If his name is familiar it
may be because you have read his three-part article in QRP Quarterly, "Making a
Software-Defined Radio for the QRP Enthusiast."? The final installment is in the
current issue.
Ward also enjoys tinkering with antennas and other QRP equipment.? He's only
been a ham for a few years but he is clearly making up for lost time.?
73,
Eric WD6DBM
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Bryan,
Welcome to the group. I have been interested in building a delta loop also. They work well close to the ground and can be supported by one pole.
I will try to hookup with you at Amtech today.
Dave Crocker W6VYC
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--- On Sat, 8/28/10, cyclist@... wrote: From: cyclist@... Subject: [QRPops] New Member To: QRPops@... Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:05 AM
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Hi Folks,
Wanted to introduce Bryan, N6IZP, who joined our Group today. I copied his last email to me to give you an idea of what Bryan is up to:
Hello Tim,
I am travelling next week but would like to join you guys the next time. I went out this morning with a few hams to build and test a 40 m delta loop antenna. I'm using a painter's pole, twin led TV cable and some guy wires along with my 817. It was simple and fast to make, setup, test and bring down. I'll take the setup on my trip next week and try a little QRP by myself (for the first time). Maybe I'll see you at Am-Tech tomorrow. If you see me, please re-introduce yourself.
Thanks,
Bryan
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Hi Folks,
Wanted to introduce Bryan, N6IZP, who joined our Group today. I copied his last email to me to give you an idea of what Bryan is up to:
Hello Tim,
I am travelling next week but would like to join you guys the next time. I went out this morning with a few hams to build and test a 40 m delta loop antenna. I'm using a painter's pole, twin led TV cable and some guy wires along with my 817. It was simple and fast to make, setup, test and bring down. I'll take the setup on my trip next week and try a little QRP by myself (for the first time). Maybe I'll see you at Am-Tech tomorrow. If you see me, please re-introduce yourself.
Thanks, Bryan
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Introducing Ward Harriman, AE6TY
Dear QRPopsters:
I'm introducing Ward Harriman, AE6TY, to the group.? If his name is familiar it may be because you have read his three-part article in QRP Quarterly, "Making a Software-Defined Radio for the QRP Enthusiast."? The final installment is in the current issue.
Ward also enjoys tinkering with antennas and other QRP equipment.? He's only been a ham for a few years but he is clearly making up for lost time.?
73,
Eric WD6DBM
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Hiro, Very much looking forward to it. Thank
you!
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Neil Murphy
650.375.0886 wrk
650.533.2015 mobile
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Great. I look forward to meeting your wife and the new baby. Hiroki
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--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Nick Garner wrote: From: Nick Garner Subject: Re: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday To: QRPops@... Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 7:39 PM
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Hello Hiro and Crew, Kazumi and I will stop by with the baby for a bit as well.
Nick On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Tim Dolan <cyclist@...> wrote:
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Thank you for the invitation Hiro. I look forward to the get together. Also, it will present a great opportunity to ensure that Rhona makes a few Q's.
Tim --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Hiroki Kato <hiroki@...> wrote:
Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
To: QRPops@...
Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 5:37 PM
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QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only
welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Hello Hiro and Crew, Kazumi and I will stop by with the baby for a bit as well.
Nick
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Tim Dolan <cyclist@...> wrote:
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Thank you for the invitation Hiro. I look forward to the get together. Also, it will present a great opportunity to ensure that Rhona makes a few Q's.
Tim --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Hiroki Kato <hiroki@...> wrote:
Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
To: QRPops@...
Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 5:37 PM
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QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only
welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Thank you for the invitation Hiro. I look forward to the get together. Also, it will present a great opportunity to ensure that Rhona makes a few Q's.
Tim
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--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Hiroki Kato wrote: From: Hiroki Kato Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday To: QRPops@... Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 5:37 PM
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QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only
welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Great. You can bring your FT817 and antenna and test your set up. You may be able to have your first QSO if not already. ?There will be plenty of OMs to show you how. You can bring your daughters, too, if they are interested. If they get bored they can read books, ?watch DVDs or TV downstairs, undisturbed by ham activities upstairs and on the deck.
Hiroki AH6CY
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--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Rhona Mahony wrote: From: Rhona Mahony Subject: Re: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday To: QRPops@... Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 4:56 PM
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Thank you, Hiroki, I will come.
Looking forward to it!
~~Rhona
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rmahony@...
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From: Hiroki Kato <hiroki@...>
To: QRPops@...
Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:37:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY?
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
Thank you, Hiroki, I will come. Looking forward to it! ~~Rhona
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----- Original Message ----- From: Hiroki Kato <hiroki@...> To: QRPops@... Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QRPops] Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
QRPopsters, I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.) DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ? I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick lunch or drink during the 6 hour period. PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028 If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448. From 280, get off at Alpine Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box. EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please. RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink. I hope to see many of you. 73, Hiroki AH6CY
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Re: Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
I will be there and
I will leave my portable sterba curtain at home.
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73,
Dave,
W6DLF
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Party Time: Sept 3, Friday
QRPopsters,
I am going to have an open-house/picnic/operating for the QRPops members and their spouses/significant others and children at my house. My XYL, who is tolerant of my ham activities but not overly enthusiastic, will be away for a few days and I am taking a full advantage of her absence. Here are the details. (Nick, you can bring your baby son if you like: I have a nice quiet room for him and his mother to take a nap.)
DATE: Friday, Sept 3. 11am -5pm. ?
I know this is not an optimum day/time for many of you. You are not only welcome to just drop by for any length of time or just for a quick
lunch or drink during the 6 hour period.
PLACE: My house and its deck. 3 Sandstone St., ?Portola Valley 94028
If you get lost on the way my cell ?is 415 713 0369 and landline is 650 851 4448.
From 280, get off at Alpine
Rd and go west. It's about 4 miles from the junction.?Turn left onto Indian Crossing. Go 1/4 mile and turn left at the first stop sign, drive up the hill (Sandstone St) a few hundred meters and go around the island. You will see the house number ("3") on the curb and the pos box.
EATS and DRINKS: Hot dogs, corn, beer and soft drinks. For vegetarians I will have tofu and eggplant. Any special dietary restricted people will be accommodated if let me know
WHAT TO BRING: Nothing required. You can bring your QRP rigs if you want to operate from the deck. No 5 element portable Yagis or quads please.
RSVP with a number of people you are bringing so that I will have enough food for everyone to eat and drink.
I hope to see many of you.
73,
Hiroki AH6CY ?
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Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Well - sounds like you've got all the gear ready to go. the site in the sierras should have worked, provided propagation was favorable of course.
Not sure what youre describing as distortion - it maybe a setting on the radio with either incorrect side-band or filter selection?
As for the band openings - as you may know, recently the sunspot activity is up, so conditions on the higher bands are prolonged into the evening (well after sunset). I found 20m had good openings till around 9pm PDT and you may want to try that band? This past weekend with the NAQP CW test, 40m was very active all night.
Grayline always adds to the propagation so you may want to try during these times instead of middle-of the day.
Just keep at it - maybe verify the proper radio settings, first?
Safe travels - enjoy the islands. Should be very nice to operate from a portable setup there!
Deon / k6wh
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--- In QRPops@..., Rhona Mahony <rmahony@...> wrote: Deon, thank you for asking. I have slowly assembled the parts for the 40-meter vertical, but not yet built it. I have been camping a lot in the Sierras, at 8500 feet, experimenting with a 20-meter vertical (4 radials) and a 40-10-meter Norcal Doublet dipole. I have been listening on 40 through 20 around 12 to 2 pm and then 8 to 9 pm. I have had very little luck. At midday, on 20 meters, the voices are very distorted. The antenna was set up on a small plateau at the edge of a precipice facing west. In the evening, on the 40-20 meter dipole, I heard a little. A net in the Santa Cruz area, for example. I have been fooling with the passband filter of my Yaesu FT-817. It helps clarify some voices. Tell me what time what bands seem to be opening! I am going to Kauai tomorrow morning, 8/10. I am bringing my FT-817 and both antennas. I admit to feeling frustrated. I haven't talked to anyone on HF yet! I expect that are a few crucial things that I don't know that are hindering me. I will read the site you linked to. Thanks! ~~Rhona
-- Rhona Mahony rmahony@...
----- Original Message ----- From: capesafari <ft7800@...> To: QRPops@... Sent: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QRPops] Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Wonder how the vertical experiments are going and if you all are enjoying the summer time late night band openings?
I came across this bookmark, and I thought I'd pass it along. This www site contains interesting data about experiements with radials for vertical configurations.
73, Deon
--- In QRPops@..., "capesafari" <ft7800@> wrote:
Rhona
Im using the 33ft MFJ pole - (HRO stock) but they all work the same. Choose fibreglass over Graphite composites - which can couple to the wire, and will affect the efficiency.
If you can run elevated at an angle, probably best, but at the end it's all a compromise. Just a matter of what works best in your situation. Remember any length if wire you can get in the air outside, is probably better than something indoors.
I think the antenna modeling s/w will help with viewing radiation patterns. I have not done that.
Also think abt experimenting with a small loop design.
I'm fortunate in my location to be on salt-water - so the vertical is a good choice for low angle radiation...
Good luck with the experiments...
73, Deon
--- In QRPops@..., Neil Murphy <neil@> wrote:
Hey Rhona,
I note that eBay has a 31ft Jackite pole for $59 - with shipping it looks like that's the $70 you mention. Seems high, but maybe they've gone up since I bought mine. I have the 28 foot version. If you wrap 33ft of wire around it in a helix, you're all set for 40m. Or you can attach one end of your antenna wire to the tip, let it run along the mast until it's about half way down, wrap ~ 5ft of 'coil' and continue the rest to the base. That will probably put you too low on 40M because it won't take that much coiled wire to lower the rez. freq. -- so you can unwind some of it to get a better match. Make a helix around the mast with any extra wire.
I have thrown this antenna up at AmTech and with one ~25ft radial a few feet off the ground worked TX with 2.5 watts. Two radials at 90 degrees would probably be better... and more just draped from eves, trees, your husband, dog, whatever, will give you something to fuss around with and see what happens. It's all just fun, after all. Have some, Neil
On 7/23/2010 9:14 AM, Rhona Mahony wrote:
Thanks for describing your antenna, Deon. I had been thinking of using 12 awg stranded wire, for a little more bandwidth and to withstand the stresses of frequent extension and recoiling as I telescope the pole up and down. Good to know that even 26 awg solid wire works fine. Do you have the Jackite pole ($70, tip 3/16 inches) or the Mast Company ($115, tip 5/16 inches) or something else? Comments on what you have? Does a vertical with one elevated radial really have a pronounced null? Where is it? If my angle of separation for 2 radials would be less than 90 degrees, should I try two radials? I have the ARRL Antenna Handbook, which I find a little too theoretical, but helpful anyway. Thanks! ~~Rhona
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Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Deon, thank you for asking. I have slowly assembled the parts for the 40-meter vertical, but not yet built it. I have been camping a lot in the Sierras, at 8500 feet, experimenting with a 20-meter vertical (4 radials) and a 40-10-meter Norcal Doublet dipole. I have been listening on 40 through 20 around 12 to 2 pm and then 8 to 9 pm. I have had very little luck. At midday, on 20 meters, the voices are very distorted. The antenna was set up on a small plateau at the edge of a precipice facing west. In the evening, on the 40-20 meter dipole, I heard a little. A net in the Santa Cruz area, for example. I have been fooling with the passband filter of my Yaesu FT-817. It helps clarify some voices. Tell me what time what bands seem to be opening! I am going to Kauai tomorrow morning, 8/10. I am bringing my FT-817 and both antennas. I admit to feeling frustrated. I haven't talked to anyone on HF yet! I expect that are a few crucial things that I don't know that are hindering me. I will read the site you linked to. Thanks! ~~Rhona
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----- Original Message ----- From: capesafari <ft7800@...> To: QRPops@... Sent: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [QRPops] Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony Wonder how the vertical experiments are going and if you all are enjoying the summer time late night band openings? I came across this bookmark, and I thought I'd pass it along. This www site contains interesting data about experiements with radials for vertical configurations. 73, Deon --- In QRPops@..., "capesafari" <ft7800@...> wrote: Rhona
Im using the 33ft MFJ pole - (HRO stock) but they all work the same. Choose fibreglass over Graphite composites - which can couple to the wire, and will affect the efficiency.
If you can run elevated at an angle, probably best, but at the end it's all a compromise. Just a matter of what works best in your situation. Remember any length if wire you can get in the air outside, is probably better than something indoors.
I think the antenna modeling s/w will help with viewing radiation patterns. I have not done that.
Also think abt experimenting with a small loop design.
I'm fortunate in my location to be on salt-water - so the vertical is a good choice for low angle radiation...
Good luck with the experiments...
73, Deon
--- In QRPops@..., Neil Murphy <neil@> wrote:
Hey Rhona,
I note that eBay has a 31ft Jackite pole for $59 - with shipping it looks like that's the $70 you mention. Seems high, but maybe they've gone up since I bought mine. I have the 28 foot version. If you wrap 33ft of wire around it in a helix, you're all set for 40m. Or you can attach one end of your antenna wire to the tip, let it run along the mast until it's about half way down, wrap ~ 5ft of 'coil' and continue the rest to the base. That will probably put you too low on 40M because it won't take that much coiled wire to lower the rez. freq. -- so you can unwind some of it to get a better match. Make a helix around the mast with any extra wire.
I have thrown this antenna up at AmTech and with one ~25ft radial a few feet off the ground worked TX with 2.5 watts. Two radials at 90 degrees would probably be better... and more just draped from eves, trees, your husband, dog, whatever, will give you something to fuss around with and see what happens. It's all just fun, after all. Have some, Neil
On 7/23/2010 9:14 AM, Rhona Mahony wrote:
Thanks for describing your antenna, Deon. I had been thinking of using 12 awg stranded wire, for a little more bandwidth and to withstand the stresses of frequent extension and recoiling as I telescope the pole up and down. Good to know that even 26 awg solid wire works fine. Do you have the Jackite pole ($70, tip 3/16 inches) or the Mast Company ($115, tip 5/16 inches) or something else? Comments on what you have? Does a vertical with one elevated radial really have a pronounced null? Where is it? If my angle of separation for 2 radials would be less than 90 degrees, should I try two radials? I have the ARRL Antenna Handbook, which I find a little too theoretical, but helpful anyway. Thanks! ~~Rhona
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Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Wonder how the vertical experiments are going and if you all are enjoying the summer time late night band openings?
I came across this bookmark, and I thought I'd pass it along. This www site contains interesting data about experiements with radials for vertical configurations.
73, Deon
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--- In QRPops@..., "capesafari" <ft7800@...> wrote: Rhona
Im using the 33ft MFJ pole - (HRO stock) but they all work the same. Choose fibreglass over Graphite composites - which can couple to the wire, and will affect the efficiency.
If you can run elevated at an angle, probably best, but at the end it's all a compromise. Just a matter of what works best in your situation. Remember any length if wire you can get in the air outside, is probably better than something indoors.
I think the antenna modeling s/w will help with viewing radiation patterns. I have not done that.
Also think abt experimenting with a small loop design.
I'm fortunate in my location to be on salt-water - so the vertical is a good choice for low angle radiation...
Good luck with the experiments...
73, Deon
--- In QRPops@..., Neil Murphy <neil@> wrote:
Hey Rhona,
I note that eBay has a 31ft Jackite pole for $59 - with shipping it looks like that's the $70 you mention. Seems high, but maybe they've gone up since I bought mine. I have the 28 foot version. If you wrap 33ft of wire around it in a helix, you're all set for 40m. Or you can attach one end of your antenna wire to the tip, let it run along the mast until it's about half way down, wrap ~ 5ft of 'coil' and continue the rest to the base. That will probably put you too low on 40M because it won't take that much coiled wire to lower the rez. freq. -- so you can unwind some of it to get a better match. Make a helix around the mast with any extra wire.
I have thrown this antenna up at AmTech and with one ~25ft radial a few feet off the ground worked TX with 2.5 watts. Two radials at 90 degrees would probably be better... and more just draped from eves, trees, your husband, dog, whatever, will give you something to fuss around with and see what happens. It's all just fun, after all. Have some, Neil
On 7/23/2010 9:14 AM, Rhona Mahony wrote:
Thanks for describing your antenna, Deon. I had been thinking of using 12 awg stranded wire, for a little more bandwidth and to withstand the stresses of frequent extension and recoiling as I telescope the pole up and down. Good to know that even 26 awg solid wire works fine. Do you have the Jackite pole ($70, tip 3/16 inches) or the Mast Company ($115, tip 5/16 inches) or something else? Comments on what you have? Does a vertical with one elevated radial really have a pronounced null? Where is it? If my angle of separation for 2 radials would be less than 90 degrees, should I try two radials? I have the ARRL Antenna Handbook, which I find a little too theoretical, but helpful anyway. Thanks! ~~Rhona
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Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Rhona
Im using the 33ft MFJ pole - (HRO stock) but they all work the same. Choose fibreglass over Graphite composites - which can couple to the wire, and will affect the efficiency.
If you can run elevated at an angle, probably best, but at the end it's all a compromise. Just a matter of what works best in your situation. Remember any length if wire you can get in the air outside, is probably better than something indoors.
I think the antenna modeling s/w will help with viewing radiation patterns. I have not done that.
Also think abt experimenting with a small loop design.
I'm fortunate in my location to be on salt-water - so the vertical is a good choice for low angle radiation...
Good luck with the experiments...
73, Deon
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--- In QRPops@..., Neil Murphy <neil@...> wrote: Hey Rhona,
I note that eBay has a 31ft Jackite pole for $59 - with shipping it looks like that's the $70 you mention. Seems high, but maybe they've gone up since I bought mine. I have the 28 foot version. If you wrap 33ft of wire around it in a helix, you're all set for 40m. Or you can attach one end of your antenna wire to the tip, let it run along the mast until it's about half way down, wrap ~ 5ft of 'coil' and continue the rest to the base. That will probably put you too low on 40M because it won't take that much coiled wire to lower the rez. freq. -- so you can unwind some of it to get a better match. Make a helix around the mast with any extra wire.
I have thrown this antenna up at AmTech and with one ~25ft radial a few feet off the ground worked TX with 2.5 watts. Two radials at 90 degrees would probably be better... and more just draped from eves, trees, your husband, dog, whatever, will give you something to fuss around with and see what happens. It's all just fun, after all. Have some, Neil
On 7/23/2010 9:14 AM, Rhona Mahony wrote:
Thanks for describing your antenna, Deon. I had been thinking of using 12 awg stranded wire, for a little more bandwidth and to withstand the stresses of frequent extension and recoiling as I telescope the pole up and down. Good to know that even 26 awg solid wire works fine. Do you have the Jackite pole ($70, tip 3/16 inches) or the Mast Company ($115, tip 5/16 inches) or something else? Comments on what you have? Does a vertical with one elevated radial really have a pronounced null? Where is it? If my angle of separation for 2 radials would be less than 90 degrees, should I try two radials? I have the ARRL Antenna Handbook, which I find a little too theoretical, but helpful anyway. Thanks! ~~Rhona
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Re: 40-meter stealth vertical for balcony
Hey Rhona,
I note that eBay has a 31ft Jackite pole for $59 - with shipping it
looks like that's the $70 you mention. Seems high, but maybe they've
gone up since I bought mine. I have the 28 foot version. If you wrap
33ft of wire around it in a helix, you're all set for 40m. Or you can
attach one end of your antenna wire to the tip, let it run along the
mast until it's about half way down, wrap ~ 5ft of 'coil' and continue
the rest to the base. That will probably put you too low on 40M because
it won't take that much coiled wire to lower the rez. freq. -- so you
can unwind some of it to get a better match. Make a helix around the
mast with any extra wire.
I have thrown this antenna up at AmTech and with one ~25ft radial a few
feet off the ground worked TX with 2.5 watts. Two radials at 90 degrees
would probably be better... and more just draped from eves, trees, your
husband, dog, whatever, will give you something to fuss around with and
see what happens. It's all just fun, after all.? Have some, Neil
On 7/23/2010 9:14 AM, Rhona Mahony wrote:
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Thanks for describing your antenna, Deon.
I had been thinking of using 12 awg stranded wire, for a little more
bandwidth and to withstand the stresses of frequent extension and
recoiling as I telescope the pole up and down. Good to know that even
26 awg solid wire works fine.
Do you have the Jackite pole ($70, tip 3/16 inches) or the Mast Company
($115, tip 5/16 inches) or something else? Comments on what you have?
Does a vertical with one elevated radial really have a pronounced null?
Where is it?
If my angle of separation for 2 radials would be less than 90 degrees,
should I try two radials?
I have the ARRL Antenna Handbook, which I find a little too
theoretical, but helpful anyway.
Thanks!
~~Rhona
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