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I'm in the process of assembling my QMX+ (board rev 2), and I'm about to begin winding the Low Pass Filter toroids (section 2.12, page 32).
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When winding the previous toroids, I found it helpful to take a closeup photo of the completed toroid to re-count the # turns (as a double check before installing).
Since I already have those photos, I thought I'd run a couple of them by the group before I move ahead with the Low Pass Filters. How am I doing?
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Here is my L405a ("small blue" w/ yellow on bottom- T37-17 core)....
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Here's my L405b ("small pink" T37-0 core)....
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Any suggestions or comments on my work before I wind the remaining toroids?? I'm wondering if I need to be more careful about keeping the gap between windings more consistent... does that matter? I'm not using the entire core; the "start" and "end" wires are positioned to line up with the PC board holes; does that look right?
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Thanks again,
Larry
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PS- Note that the board rev. 2 parts list (page 16) reverses the toroid types used for these two coils (it says L405a is pink and L405b is blue (yellow) ).? This error has been corrected in the board rev 3 assembly instructions.
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You can wind mine if you wish.? Nice neat job.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 10:15?AM Larry- WA2VKG via <lbakely=[email protected]> wrote:
I'm in the process of assembling my QMX+ (board rev 2), and I'm about to begin winding the Low Pass Filter toroids (section 2.12, page 32).
?
When winding the previous toroids, I found it helpful to take a closeup photo of the completed toroid to re-count the # turns (as a double check before installing).
Since I already have those photos, I thought I'd run a couple of them by the group before I move ahead with the Low Pass Filters. How am I doing?
?
Here is my L405a ("small blue" w/ yellow on bottom- T37-17 core)....
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Here's my L405b ("small pink" T37-0 core)....
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Any suggestions or comments on my work before I wind the remaining toroids?? I'm wondering if I need to be more careful about keeping the gap between windings more consistent... does that matter? I'm not using the entire core; the "start" and "end" wires are positioned to line up with the PC board holes; does that look right?
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Thanks again,
Larry
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PS- Note that the board rev. 2 parts list (page 16) reverses the toroid types used for these two coils (it says L405a is pink and L405b is blue (yellow) ).? This error has been corrected in the board rev 3 assembly instructions.
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Those look very nice and will work well.
One additional thing I do is use my finger to press the wire against the outside of the toroid at the start of each turn.? This makes the wire lay flatter against the outside of the toroid - but I think it is mostly cosmetic and doesn't likely change anything operationally.


 

Dave-? LOL... thanks for the encouragement.


 

Stan- good tip.? I do squeeze the windings between the top and bottom of the core on each turn, but I'm not doing anything with the edges (perimeter) of the core.? But I think it's working out ok.
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Thanks for the response; I appreciate the "sanity check.".


 

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:59 AM, Stan Dye wrote:
This makes the wire lay flatter against the outside of the toroid - but I think it is mostly cosmetic and doesn't likely change anything operationally.
I let it bulge a little, it allows some slack if you need to spread turns.
73, Don N2VGU


 

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Larry,

Your toroids look wonderful! ?After a few more you can do them in your sleep or while watching Jeopardy and Wheel with your wife. ?I find winding toroids like what I used to see with my Grandmother and Aunts do when they would knit or crochet while talking ?or playing cards. ?It becomes automatic after a while. And it’s fun too.

Dave K8WPE

PS ?Now I understand…… He who dies with the most toys has probably forgotten much what he has and why……. So true!





On Feb 20, 2025, at 10:15?AM, Larry- WA2VKG via groups.io <lbakely@...> wrote:

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I'm in the process of assembling my QMX+ (board rev 2), and I'm about to begin winding the Low Pass Filter toroids (section 2.12, page 32).
?
When winding the previous toroids, I found it helpful to take a closeup photo of the completed toroid to re-count the # turns (as a double check before installing).
Since I already have those photos, I thought I'd run a couple of them by the group before I move ahead with the Low Pass Filters. How am I doing?
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Here is my L405a ("small blue" w/ yellow on bottom- T37-17 core)....
<QMXp Toroid L405a _IMG_1967.JPG>
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Here's my L405b ("small pink" T37-0 core)....
<QMXp Toroid L405b _IMG_1970.JPG>
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Any suggestions or comments on my work before I wind the remaining toroids?? I'm wondering if I need to be more careful about keeping the gap between windings more consistent... does that matter? I'm not using the entire core; the "start" and "end" wires are positioned to line up with the PC board holes; does that look right?
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Thanks again,
Larry
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PS- Note that the board rev. 2 parts list (page 16) reverses the toroid types used for these two coils (it says L405a is pink and L405b is blue (yellow) ).? This error has been corrected in the board rev 3 assembly instructions.
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Has the rev. 2 parts list been corrected?


On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 4:50 AM David Wilcox K8WPE via <Djwilcox01=[email protected]> wrote:
Larry,

Your toroids look wonderful!? After a few more you can do them in your sleep or while watching Jeopardy and Wheel with your wife.? I find winding toroids like what I used to see with my Grandmother and Aunts do when they would knit or crochet while talking ?or playing cards.? It becomes automatic after a while. And it’s fun too.

Dave K8WPE

PS ?Now I understand…… He who dies with the most toys has probably forgotten much what he has and why……. So true!





On Feb 20, 2025, at 10:15?AM, Larry- WA2VKG via <lbakely=[email protected]> wrote:

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I'm in the process of assembling my QMX+ (board rev 2), and I'm about to begin winding the Low Pass Filter toroids (section 2.12, page 32).
?
When winding the previous toroids, I found it helpful to take a closeup photo of the completed toroid to re-count the # turns (as a double check before installing).
Since I already have those photos, I thought I'd run a couple of them by the group before I move ahead with the Low Pass Filters. How am I doing?
?
Here is my L405a ("small blue" w/ yellow on bottom- T37-17 core)....
<QMXp Toroid L405a _IMG_1967.JPG>
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Here's my L405b ("small pink" T37-0 core)....
<QMXp Toroid L405b _IMG_1970.JPG>
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Any suggestions or comments on my work before I wind the remaining toroids?? I'm wondering if I need to be more careful about keeping the gap between windings more consistent... does that matter? I'm not using the entire core; the "start" and "end" wires are positioned to line up with the PC board holes; does that look right?
?
Thanks again,
Larry
?
PS- Note that the board rev. 2 parts list (page 16) reverses the toroid types used for these two coils (it says L405a is pink and L405b is blue (yellow) ).? This error has been corrected in the board rev 3 assembly instructions.
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--
Dale Hardin
KS4NS
Elberta, AL


 

Dave- LOL.? Yeah, it is actually kind of relaxing to wind these things. But the counting does stress my poor little brain....
Thanks for the encouragement.


 

Dale-? The toroid parts listing in the latest manual for the Rev 2 board has not been corrected.? But, it is correct in the board Rev. 3 manual.


 

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Just take a photo with your smart phone, enlarge it, count the turns easily then. ?

Dave K8WPE

PS ?Now I understand…… He who dies with the most toys has probably forgotten much what he has and why……. So true!





On Feb 21, 2025, at 10:28?AM, Larry- WA2VKG via groups.io <lbakely@...> wrote:

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Dave- LOL.? Yeah, it is actually kind of relaxing to wind these things. But the counting does stress my poor little brain....
Thanks for the encouragement.


 

I wound the torid in tight groups of 6x - Note the 27 turn fills up the inside of the torid.
- When I verify the groups fo 6x.. it is not easy to count - but I find the middle of the 6x winding - and there are three windings to left and right.

?- Spencer

On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 3:54?AM David Wilcox K8WPE via <Djwilcox01=[email protected]> wrote:
Just take a photo with your smart phone, enlarge it, count the turns easily then. ?

Dave K8WPE

PS ?Now I understand…… He who dies with the most toys has probably forgotten much what he has and why……. So true!





On Feb 21, 2025, at 10:28?AM, Larry- WA2VKG via <lbakely=[email protected]> wrote:

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Dave- LOL.? Yeah, it is actually kind of relaxing to wind these things. But the counting does stress my poor little brain....
Thanks for the encouragement.



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