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The USB connection is not working.


 

Hello, I just built a QMX+, the controls on the device work, but I couldn't test it fully because I don't have an HF antenna in my workshop. When I wanted to test it by connecting it to my computer, I found that the USB connection doesn't work, when I plug in the cable my computer doesn't react at all, there is no warning like "device unknown", it's as if the cable was never plugged in. Then I started searching the group posts and double-checked the items I wrote below,

- I am sure that the cable I am using is suitable for data transmission
- It was written that the smd mount USB-c connector sometimes has soldering errors, I made sure it was soldered correctly,
- I have checked the 2 lines coming out of the USB-c connector and going to the microcontroller and they look healthy,
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I am using windows 11 operating system, I don't have access to an older version of windows or linux distro for now but I will try them.
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Many thanks in advance for your help on the subject.
TA2KTK - Tayfun


 

Tayfun,
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Often Windows will not make a sound at all when you plug in the QMX+ correctly, because it uses the same USB virtual serial port we use on other devices, and it already has the driver installed and ready.
Follow this procedure, starting with your QMX+ not plugged in to the computer:
1) In Windows 11, bring up "Device Manager" (right-click on the windows start icon, and there is a selection for it).? In Device Manager, if there is a selection for "Ports (COM & LPT)", expand it and see what devices are present.? If there is no such selection, it's ok, you don't have any currently active.
2) Now with QMX+ power off, plug in the USB data cable to QMX+ and PC.
3) Now power on the QMX+ while watching the Device Manager window.
A new device should appear within a few seconds under "Ports (COM & LPT)", and if that ports selection wasn't there before, it should appear with one entry.
This new entry is your QMX+ - note the com port number it is using so you can use it with PuTTY or TeraTerm or whatever terminal emulator you will use.
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A key here is that QMX+ only initializes its USB port when it powers on, and only IF it sees that the cable is plugged in.? So you need to power it on, or power-cycle it AFTER you plug in the cable in order for the computer to recognize it.
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I hope this helps.? There is not a lot that can go wrong in the QMX+ hardware, since there isn't much, as you have seen.? Just a couple of wires and resistors, leading into processor pins.? So usually it is something related to the connection or startup procedure.? Win11 has all the necessary drivers pre-installed, so it should be ready to go unless you have done some specific driver unloading.
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Stan KC7XE
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Dear Stan,
Thank you for your interest, I have already tried what you wrote before, but I checked it again in order and the result is the same, no new ports (COM & LPT) appear in the "device manager" screen, there is also no new device as an audio driver, so in short, it's like the USB connection never happened.
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TA2KTK - Tayfun


 

An update, as always I think the problem is the simplest one, I have type-c to type-c cables, I couldn't get any response from any type-c port of the computer I was using, then I tried the type-a ports on my motherboard using a type-c to type-a converter, I could only get response from the usb2.0 usb port, it shows the device for 2-3 seconds, but then it keeps beeping as "unknown device", the solution is to buy a relatively older type-c to type-a cable and try the usb2.0 ports again, if not, try again on an older generation computer, try and try and try... I guess that's the fun of it :)
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I'll write again with the latest situation, 73.
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TA2KTK - Tayfun


 

Yup, never been able to use straight c to c... I think it's missing a resistor to tell the computer to just treat it like a basic USB device. Whenever I have used it on my USB c laptop I have had to use an OTG adapter and a USB c to USB a cable.


 

On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 07:34 PM, Sean [AK6BM] wrote:
never been able to use straight c to c... I think it's missing a resistor to tell the computer to just treat it like a basic USB device
This was a problem with the early QMX boards, as you say missing resistors.? It was fixed in later QMX board versions and the QMX+ and by a number of people who fitted the resistors.? When you do that you can use USB C to C cables.
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The OP says QMX+ so this isn't the problem for him.
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Chris, G5CTH


 

The QMX connects to the computer via USB using a virtual COM interface.
To do this, it needs a driver that is usually included in Windows.
In November I bought a computer (ACE Magican, Windows 11 Pro) that was missing this driver (usbser.sys).
No virtual COM interfaces could be set up, and the computer showed no reaction, when the QMX (and some other devices with this technology) was connected.
Pure USB devices worked.
After installing the driver, everything was OK.
Functional test:
Connect QMX to computer
Open device manager in Windows.
Turn on QMX. An entry with USB Serial Device (COMn) must open.
If not, there is some USB problem (virtualCOM driver or hardware computer/QMX)
73 Reiner
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If a device with virtual USB-COM interfaces has never been connected to the computer: if possible, repeat the test on a second computer
73 Reiner


 

Hello again, last time I thought that the problem might be in the new generation cables with PD support, so I bought 3 different brands of type-C to type-A cables with data transfer feature and working in USB2 standard, when I plugged in the first cable, the device connected and when it showed as Com-3 I thought the problem was solved, but while browsing the hardware monitor, the breaks started again, the same problem with all 3 cables...
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I decided to renew the soldering of the smd USB C connector on the board, which I had already checked by checking for short circuits (those who make this decision know that the moment your hands shake is the moment you are finished...). With all prayers I was able to re-solder it without any problem, and bingo! For now the problem seems to be solved, I have been testing for 2-3 hours and so far so good.
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Now that we've identified the problem, it's time to go back and test other cables and USB ports, all the cables I had worked on all ports, type-C, A... If you are experiencing similar symptoms I hope these articles will help you... Sincerely 73.
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TA2KTK - Tayfun