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QMX+ Power Supply boards problem
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I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm hoping the main board is OK. But I don't want to incinerate another power board if I can help it. I was super careful building the kit. I used the recommended precautions/procedures soldering on the main board (6 layers). I have searched the board with a jewler's loupe and have not seen anything odd... I have been building electronic kits starting with an RCA Voltohmyist VTVM when I was young - 5th grade maybe? I sure hate to think I toasted the thing... -- Dan Reynolds -- KB9JLO <>< |
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:12 PM, Dan Reynolds wrote:
If I unplug the 2x4 pin board there is an open and when I plug the board back in - it's a dead short.Dan, so it looks like a problem related to this SMPS board. On the VDD rail with the burnt power board installed there is a dead short on VDD.Maybe the short comes from something burnt? Her is a document from the QRP Labs Wiki how to test the SMPS boards off line. The Wiki contains also documents about the internal power supply and the start up process. I pushed the power encoder and a transistor on the 2x4 pin board lit up - literally and burnt. It was near the far end of the board by the big cap.?I think it's Q108, the switching transistor to produce VCC. But this should not affect VDD. But there was also something with the VDD board (see No 4 in your post). So please check the two subboards off line first. I think both are not ok. In the moment I have no real idea how this would happen. Maybe you have unwanted connections related to the pin headers of the two SMPS subboards? 73, Ludwig |
Dear Dan, GPS antenna jack. I have been inspecting my board for shorts and opens but so far... Have not cleared the faults. If you can get it to load the software .... You can use Putty to look and the hardware diagnostics. That will give you what the software sees. Mine says the 5V power supply is high and the 3.3V power supply is about 2.9V on the linear power supply. I can't seem to go any farther than that. I have changed the power supply boards twice. Not finding any bad solder joints and no other shorts. My board has an intermittent short on the VDD bus somewhere... But can't find it and all solder connections look good. Running 8Vdc on input voltage board draws about 200ma when turned on and nothing until I hold the power on button (Long press). Right now I don't know exactly what else to do. My 3.3V power board gets warm to the touch but so far no fire. Take care and have fun. |
Thanks David. I hate to try again and just fry another board.
I was going to oder some more power supply boards. My jumber for the power at the GPS is very low to the board and doesn't appear to be touching and I have no short to ground when measuring resistance between VDD and ground. What amazed me was how fast the overload came on. I literally dropped the file onto the flash drive and it was nearly instant. Before dropping the firmware file into the flash drive (meaning the drivethat shows up when loading the inital firmware) there was no current draw to speak of. In fact I was so suprised to see the flash drive show up - I wasn't sure what to do or even where the firmware was. LOL. I though I was home free when the flash drive showed up. And then all heck broke loose. Sigh. I'm at that point were I just don't know what I want to do next. I have one of those DROK chinese power boards but I don't think I'm setting the current correctly. -- Dan Reynolds -- KB9JLO <>< |
Dear Dan, I put a string of 8 diodes together and hooked that to my 12V power supply.? That took the voltage down 4.8 volt so it is around 7V for testing.?? I don't trust those Chinese power supplies.?? I use a regulated +12Vdc supply at 2 Amps.?? and that works pretty well.?? I bought a extra set of power supply boards and my QMX+ is now down.?? The second 5VDC SMS supply is getting really hot and not working.?? My short is intermittent and comes and goes when I bang the board on the desk.? But it quit that now and the board draws 340 ma when turned on.?? Nothing on the board get hot except the 3.3 Vdc SMS POWER SUPPLY.?? I can't find any bad solder joints.? I did get the processor go come up to hardware diagnostics.?? and go a picture of it .? But nothing happens now...? So, The new kit is here and I will try again.?? If I can't get this one to go... Then I will give up. Good luck on yours... 73 Dave WA5DJJ |