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After building the 20m QCX I checked voltages and at that time I was reading ~1.70 on both CLK0 & CLK1.? Last night, I was troubleshooting another problem and decided to re-check the voltages and noticed CLK0 was ~1.70 BUT CLK1 was 0!? I haven't yet hooked up my scope but I am assuming something is holding down CLK1 or I have a failed IC.? I notice on the schematics (Rev 1.10) that CLK1 is produced by IC1 p9 (SI5351A_MSOP) and CLK1 is shared with IC4 p2.? My worst-case scenario is a faulty IC1and/or IC4.? If IC1 requires replacement, is this a programed IC?? If so, where do I order one from?? Any luck getting the IC4 (FST3253)?? Hopefully after I pull out the scope I'll have a better idea of what's going on.? If anyone has answers I would certainly appreciate a reply.

73 John KF6QPC


 

BUT CLK1 was 0!? I haven't yet hooked up my scope but I am assuming something is holding down CLK1 or I have a failed IC.? I notice on the schematics (Rev 1.10) that CLK1 is produced by IC1 p9 (SI5351A_MSOP) and CLK1 is shared with IC4 p2.? My worst-case scenario is a faulty IC1and/or IC4.? If IC1 requires replacement, is this a programed IC?
John,

A few faulty components have been reported but faulty new components are rare.
More often faulty components are due to a constructor's mistake.
Most faults found are due to bad solder joints or solder bridges.
Bad soldering on the Si5351 has been reported a few times. A very careful look at all joints with magnification is essential.

The components are available, yes, if you decide you need something make sure it is the correct type.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


 

Hello Alan,

Thank you for your reply.? As mentioned previously, after building the QCX, the voltages of both clocks WERE the same and for some reason CLK1 is now 0v.? As for the SI5351A_MSOP, it is my understanding that this IC may be a pre-programmed component.? I need to know if QCX's IC1 is pre-programmed or not.? IF programmed, how do I go about getting one?? Otherwise, I can order a non-programmed one from Digi-Key.? The IC4 appears to come in a couple shapes/sizes.? I don't think I can order the correct one (rectangular) within the States.? I know Digi-Key only offers the "square" one.

BTW, I did reset IC2 but that did not improve this situation.


 

As mentioned previously, after building the QCX, the voltages of both clocks WERE the same
John,

Yes, but bad joints/bridges can show afterwards. Have you checked for grounding or with the scope yet?

and for some reason CLK1 is now 0v.? As for the SI5351A_MSOP, it is my understanding that this IC may be a pre-programmed component.
The one used is not pre-programmed, if you look back in the posts (search) the exact replacement has been quoted in the past. Maybe someone will know and save you the trouble.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


 

Hello Alan,

I think this is the info he needs from a quick search of my folder:

"This has come around before, but here's a reminder.

The part you want is the Si5351A-B. It comes in a 10-MSOP package. You
can buy it either on a cut tape (-GTR) or bulk from a tube (-GT)
according to taste; same chip either way. You want to avoid the
variants that have a modified I2C address such as the Si5351A-B04486;
the QCX firmware expects the chip to use the standard I2C address,
0x60. You also want to avoid the Si5351B-B or Si5351C-B, which come in
larger square packages.

Digikey sells them for 92 cents in quantity one. They're a bit more
expensive at Mouser: $1.15. (But it might be worth paying the higher
price to Mouser if you're already ordering from them for other
reasons.) Non-US distributors also sell them. "

Thursday, September 13, 2018

As mentioned previously, after building the QCX, the voltages of both clocks WERE the same
John,
Yes, but bad joints/bridges can show afterwards. Have you checked for
grounding or with the scope yet?
and for some reason CLK1 is now 0v.? As for the SI5351A_MSOP, it is my understanding that this IC may be a pre-programmed component.
The one used is not pre-programmed, if you look back in the posts
(search) the exact replacement has been quoted in the past. Maybe
someone will know and save you the trouble.
73 Alan G4ZFQ








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Best regards, Chris Wilson (2E0ILY)


 

Hello Chris and Alan, after hooking up my oscilloscope, I noticed both CLK0 and CLK1 are active.? The only? time CLK1 would be 0 is after placing the QCX in menu 9 Test Equipment | 9.2 RF Power and depress the key.? If I move up the menu back to 9 Test Equipment, CLK1 is active once again.? I suppose because CLK1 is missing only during test 9.2 plus key depression, this observation now becomes a mute point.

I want to thank you both for taking the time responding to my question/concern.

73 John KF6QPC?


 

Hi John

Apologies for jumping late into the discussion. During TX or receiver muting, only one of Clk1/0 is active, and the frequency is set to 27MHz.?

This is a nice trick which I developed that greatly reduces the Rx/Tx changeover "thump".?

If you switch off both Clk0 and Clk1 then the charge leaks out of the 4 integrator capacitors. On going back to receive, they get suddenly charged up to 1/2 Vcc via the multiplexer switches, a 2.5V jump which creates a lot of problems including the big thump.?

So instead I operate one of the clocks at 28MHz (which is harmless), it serves to keep the 2.5V DC bias maintained on all the integrator capacitors in the QSD, so when you switch back to receive there's no big sudden change.?

It was a very neat solution to a problem, which could be achieved only with firmware change, no circuit changes.

So this is why you see only one of Clk0/1 active when the receiver is muted.

73 Hans G0UPL?
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 21:12 <j.capel@...> wrote:
Hello Chris and Alan, after hooking up my oscilloscope, I noticed both CLK0 and CLK1 are active.? The only? time CLK1 would be 0 is after placing the QCX in menu 9 Test Equipment | 9.2 RF Power and depress the key.? If I move up the menu back to 9 Test Equipment, CLK1 is active once again.? I suppose because CLK1 is missing only during test 9.2 plus key depression, this observation now becomes a mute point.

I want to thank you both for taking the time responding to my question/concern.

73 John KF6QPC?


 

Hans, thank you very much for the explanation of CLK1 not enabled when receiver is muted.? This transceiver kit has certainly been an excellent learning experience!

73 John KF6QPC