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Will USA tariff laws affect the import pricing of Hans’ great radios/kits into the USA?
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Turkey isn't part of the EU
And it isn't clear if or when or how much, tariffs will apply to small personal imports. There was an attempt in February to abolish the $800 deminimis for small personal imports but this was abandoned for reasons of impracticality. It remains to be seen whether this will be implemented and how. No US government website makes anything any clearer.?
So in the end, wait and see is the only option.?
73 Hans G0UPL
Turkey being part of the EU, expect to pay +20% on import.? Unless things change.
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Well ... The newly signed hit list showed 10% for Turkey. But so far the reality has been changing almost daily.
Bumpy road ahead is about all I'm sure of to be honest. I did see that there are entities on the list where the non existent populations are subject to tariffs. So ....? At this point, Who knows if the order and list are even accurate??
Or if the in place exceptions for small quantities/values still apply. Or if it all just grinds to a halt.
Interesting times. Be careful what you wish for.?
Try to have some radio fun today.? Support Hans where you can.?
GREG
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 7:56 AM, John Pokluda via groups.io <john.pokluda@...> wrote: Turkey being part of the EU, expect to pay +20% on import.? Unless things change.
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Radio-related aspect...
Heard island is on the tariff list, I was reading this BBC article? and thought woaaahh, no humans have visited in over a decade? But I well remember the Heard island DXpedition, specifically because a QRP Labs Ultimate3S was on the ship and tracked the position accurately to 6-char Maidenhead grid subsquare resolution every 10 minutes reliably en route. Didn't seem that long ago! But I looked it up and indeed, it was 2016. How time flies! Then read further down the article and indeed it does say the last humans to visit the island were some amateur radio enthusiasts in 2016!
73 Hans G0UPL
Well ...The newly signed hit list showed 10% for Turkey. But so far the reality has been changing almost daily.
Bumpy road ahead is about all I'm sure of to be honest. I did see that there are entities on the list where the non existent populations are subject to tariffs. So ....? At this point, Who knows if the order and list are even accurate??
Or if the in place exceptions for small quantities/values still apply. Or if it all just grinds to a halt.
Interesting times. Be careful what you wish for.?
Try to have some radio fun today.? Support Hans where you can.?
GREG
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 7:56 AM, John Pokluda via Turkey being part of the EU, expect to pay +20% on import.? Unless things change.
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Hello all
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DX Commander stated in the last video that tarrifs will not apply to his antennas as it is below certain price limit. We will see if it is true and if it will also apply to Turkey.?
73
Pawe? SO8FM
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P. S. I hope I can hear several SSB QMX stations during todays SP DX Contest.?
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de minimis treatment "shall not be available" for China, quote from a Feb 25th US article from npr.?
It would not be a surprise if that were to be extended to other countries.?
Andy
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The universe is made up of Protons, Neutrons, Electrons but contains only one M0RON.
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Hi All,
The tariffs on my last two shipments were applied by DHL.
Previously dozens of shipments to Mexico had no duty.
DHL asked for a proof of citizenship and added a brokerage fee.?
The total came to 20%.?
So the first signs of an US change may be when the package has been ordered.?
Mexico has a Deminimis but it was ignored.?
As Hans says wait and see. It is kind of sneaky,
The good news is that DHL does deliver with no damage and you can pay the driver.?
It's annoying but beyond Han's and QRP labs control and won't affect future orders from me.?
The QMX+ is still a bargain. The tariff on Japan is more important in my opinion,
as that will really affect the future of Ham radio. It may be good for US domestic manufacturers, but
bad for distributors and individual hams. Also domestic manufactures use China parts....
so all of this is very inflationary.??
73,
George
K3GK
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Is a brokerage fee considered a tariff? DHL has been charging a brokerage fee in Canada for some time now, along with HST (VAT). I will try to pay HST directly to Canada Customs next time I order, and cut DHL out of the loop, if at all possible.
VA3RR
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I bet that you'll still encounter their brokerage fee.?
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Jim
VE4BWG
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Once you ship with DHL, they will charge you or you won't get it.?
It will wind its way back, regardless causing you a whole bunch of annoyance.?
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This also goes for Amazon. I ordered 100 feet of tin braid. Paid for it.
They just put it aside rather than swallow the Metal tariff. Fortunately,
after three weeks they returned all of my money. Chaos, and musical chairs HiHi.?
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A 10% tariff on ALL imports went into effect at midnight this morning. This tariff applies to all countries and will affect shipments from Turkey and every other country in the world.
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 10:45?AM George Korper via <georgekorper= [email protected]> wrote: Once you ship with DHL, they will charge you or you won't get it.
It will wind its way back, regardless causing you a whole bunch of annoyance.?
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This also goes for Amazon. I ordered 100 feet of tin braid. Paid for it.
They just put it aside rather than swallow the Metal tariff. Fortunately,
after three weeks they returned all of my money. Chaos, and musical chairs HiHi.?
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Tariffs on commercial imports aren't the same as taxation on individual purchases by private individuals. What happens next is far from clear. We shall see. I suspect at least in the short term, nothing will happen to US QRP Labs customer purchases, continue as usual. Longer term, who knows.
73 Hans G0UPL
A 10% tariff on ALL imports went into effect at midnight this morning. This tariff applies to all countries and will affect shipments from Turkey and every other country in the world. On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 10:45?AM George Korper via <georgekorper= [email protected]> wrote: Once you ship with DHL, they will charge you or you won't get it.
It will wind its way back, regardless causing you a whole bunch of annoyance.?
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This also goes for Amazon. I ordered 100 feet of tin braid. Paid for it.
They just put it aside rather than swallow the Metal tariff. Fortunately,
after three weeks they returned all of my money. Chaos, and musical chairs HiHi.?
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I agree, exactly what the 10% tariff applies to is unclear. A lot of searching revealed 60 countries but I couldn’t find a list of these countries. And no information I can find on the minimum value of the import.
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 11:36?AM Hans Summers via <hans.summers= [email protected]> wrote: Tariffs on commercial imports aren't the same as taxation on individual purchases by private individuals. What happens next is far from clear. We shall see. I suspect at least in the short term, nothing will happen to US QRP Labs customer purchases, continue as usual. Longer term, who knows.
73 Hans G0UPL
A 10% tariff on ALL imports went into effect at midnight this morning. This tariff applies to all countries and will affect shipments from Turkey and every other country in the world. On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 10:45?AM George Korper via <georgekorper= [email protected]> wrote: Once you ship with DHL, they will charge you or you won't get it.
It will wind its way back, regardless causing you a whole bunch of annoyance.?
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This also goes for Amazon. I ordered 100 feet of tin braid. Paid for it.
They just put it aside rather than swallow the Metal tariff. Fortunately,
after three weeks they returned all of my money. Chaos, and musical chairs HiHi.?
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My understanding is that the de minimus exemption is scheduled to become unavailable for items shipped from Hong Kong and China into USA starting May 2.? As far as I know, the exemption is expected to continue to be available for small shipments from other countries into USA.?
However, all this will continue to be uncertain and enforcement is uncertain as well.? Executive orders are now made whimsically and enforcement is focused on personal adversaries.? So I agree that the answer to this question is best sought by examining the evidence: if someone in USA gets hit with a tariff on an order from Hans, we'll probably hear about it on this forum.
Halden VE7UTS
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To me FedEx is a bigger worry than Tariffs. I placed a parts order with QRP-Labs (value of $32.96 CAN) and 3 weeks later I received an invoice from FedEx. FedEx collected $3.93 in Canadian sales taxes and for the honour of doing that they charged me an additional $11.40 AND $0.57 more in sales tax!
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So the collection of $3.93 in taxes cost me a total of $15.90!
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I love the rapid and secure service FedEx provides but this is highway robbery!
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73, Rick
VE7TK
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Thanks for the update, you are the best.
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 12:36?PM Hans Summers via <hans.summers= [email protected]> wrote: Tariffs on commercial imports aren't the same as taxation on individual purchases by private individuals. What happens next is far from clear. We shall see. I suspect at least in the short term, nothing will happen to US QRP Labs customer purchases, continue as usual. Longer term, who knows.
73 Hans G0UPL
A 10% tariff on ALL imports went into effect at midnight this morning. This tariff applies to all countries and will affect shipments from Turkey and every other country in the world. On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 10:45?AM George Korper via <georgekorper= [email protected]> wrote: Once you ship with DHL, they will charge you or you won't get it.
It will wind its way back, regardless causing you a whole bunch of annoyance.?
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This also goes for Amazon. I ordered 100 feet of tin braid. Paid for it.
They just put it aside rather than swallow the Metal tariff. Fortunately,
after three weeks they returned all of my money. Chaos, and musical chairs HiHi.?
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It’s not just FedEx, I had a similar experience with UPS recently (was not a QRP-Labs order). The UPS fees were more than the tariffs and in total amounted to 24% of the order total. ?Sucks.
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73,
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Robert, WA2T
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On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 10:37 PM, <rentwist@...> wrote:
It’s not just FedEx, I had a similar experience with UPS recently (was not a QRP-Labs order). The UPS fees were more than the tariffs and in total amounted to 24% of the order total. ?Sucks.
Trouble with these measures is that it not only about the tariff, it is also about the extra work involved, with all the forms to fill it takes easily somebody 10 to 15 minutes to process it, plus they charge taxes plus overheard plus their margin.... Similarly, I got bitten after Brexit and paid more handling fees than taxes on a kit I bought in the UK. There was a movement against red tap in the 90s but it just got reversed about 10 years ago. It isn't just the US, all populists around the world do the same. The irony is that the very same people were whingeing about red tape, we live in a bizarre world.
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Tony, list of the countries:
73 - Pierre - FK8IH
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Charles Schuler
M0RON
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Rick Williams - VE7TK
Pierre - FK8IH