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QMX No Power Out


 

I have no power out, yet the oscillator is working as I hear it on my DX10 when the DX10 is not connected to an ant.? I ran hardware diagnostics on the rf filters.? They were pretty much a strange cousin of the examples in the instructions.? Not smooth at all.? Side tone sounds great!? In the diagnostics, a lower SWR was shown but no power out.? Any suggestions or further info needed?? The receiver sounds great, and the menu operation is very intuitive.? Excellent work.? Just looking for some ideas on what I can check, test points in the RF and PA sections.
Burt
K4SRQ.


 

Burt,

Some questions. Your answers may help your helper.?

Are all bands exhibiting no power out?

Have you verified 'no power' using an external instrument?

What voltage level powers your QMX?
How much current is drawn in TX? In RX?

Have you checked all the solder joints at T501 and T507? Inadequate removal of enamel insulation is a prime culprit. Using an ohmmeter , check for continuity through the winding, measuring from pad to pad, not on the copper wires.

Have you inspected C526? If it is cracked you may still be able to receive but transmit will be nil.

Post a screenshot of the diagnostic page while in TX. Let's verify that PIN diode currents and PA operating voltage are correct.

JZ KJ4A?

On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, 8:13?PM Burt Wizeman <burt@...> wrote:
I have no power out, yet the oscillator is working as I hear it on my DX10 when the DX10 is not connected to an ant.? I ran hardware diagnostics on the rf filters.? They were pretty much a strange cousin of the examples in the instructions.? Not smooth at all.? Side tone sounds great!? In the diagnostics, a lower SWR was shown but no power out.? Any suggestions or further info needed?? The receiver sounds great, and the menu operation is very intuitive.? Excellent work.? Just looking for some ideas on what I can check, test points in the RF and PA sections.
Burt
K4SRQ.


 

Hey John, thanks for the reply:

All bands no power out.
Verified that no input exists to the antenna tuner.
12 Volts for power.

97 milliamps on receive.
60 meters - 141 Milliamps xmit
40 meters - 154 Milliamps xmit
30 Meters - 177 Milliamps xmit
20 Meters - 207 Milliamps xmit
80 Meter - XMIT Disabled -?

I did a jeweler's loop inspection and checked continuity for the Transformers.? Was wondering what the voltage readings should be at the pads for T501 and T507.? Also, do you know the expected Bias on Transmit for QW503-Q506?? Will check C526 specifically.??

Burt
K4SRQ


 

Burt,
That current draw in TX is quite low. Check continuity through L502.

In TX the four PA transistors will have an RF square wave signal at the gates . The magnitude of that signal is 5 volts and an oscilloscope will show that. As the duty cycle is 50% a multimeter will read 2.5 volts.

The primary side of T501 should have a DC potential in the range of 9-12 volts on each of 3 pins but during transmit the drain terminals will also have an RF signal riding on that voltage of approximately 45V p-p. At the secondary side? in TX you should see? 15-25 volts p-p RF voltage with no DC bias. These are all from memory and are approximate.?

Hope that helps and GL? 73 JZ KJ4A?


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 9:24?AM Burt Wizeman <burt@...> wrote:
Hey John, thanks for the reply:

All bands no power out.
Verified that no input exists to the antenna tuner.
12 Volts for power.

97 milliamps on receive.
60 meters - 141 Milliamps xmit
40 meters - 154 Milliamps xmit
30 Meters - 177 Milliamps xmit
20 Meters - 207 Milliamps xmit
80 Meter - XMIT Disabled -?

I did a jeweler's loop inspection and checked continuity for the Transformers.? Was wondering what the voltage readings should be at the pads for T501 and T507.? Also, do you know the expected Bias on Transmit for QW503-Q506?? Will check C526 specifically.??

Burt
K4SRQ


 

Burt, I'll check out you screen shots later. Thanks for posting them.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 11:37?AM John Z via <jdzbrozek=[email protected]> wrote:
Burt,
That current draw in TX is quite low. Check continuity through L502.

In TX the four PA transistors will have an RF square wave signal at the gates . The magnitude of that signal is 5 volts and an oscilloscope will show that. As the duty cycle is 50% a multimeter will read 2.5 volts.

The primary side of T501 should have a DC potential in the range of 9-12 volts on each of 3 pins but during transmit the drain terminals will also have an RF signal riding on that voltage of approximately 45V p-p. At the secondary side? in TX you should see? 15-25 volts p-p RF voltage with no DC bias. These are all from memory and are approximate.?

Hope that helps and GL? 73 JZ KJ4A?


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 9:24?AM Burt Wizeman <burt@...> wrote:
Hey John, thanks for the reply:

All bands no power out.
Verified that no input exists to the antenna tuner.
12 Volts for power.

97 milliamps on receive.
60 meters - 141 Milliamps xmit
40 meters - 154 Milliamps xmit
30 Meters - 177 Milliamps xmit
20 Meters - 207 Milliamps xmit
80 Meter - XMIT Disabled -?

I did a jeweler's loop inspection and checked continuity for the Transformers.? Was wondering what the voltage readings should be at the pads for T501 and T507.? Also, do you know the expected Bias on Transmit for QW503-Q506?? Will check C526 specifically.??

Burt
K4SRQ


 

OK. Your screen shots all look good * except * for output power and SWR.

Is there a chance you have swapped the primary and secondary windings on T507? That would block RF output and mess up SWR.

JZ

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 11:40?AM John Z via <jdzbrozek=[email protected]> wrote:
Burt, I'll check out you screen shots later. Thanks for posting them.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 11:37?AM John Z via <jdzbrozek=[email protected]> wrote:
Burt,
That current draw in TX is quite low. Check continuity through L502.

In TX the four PA transistors will have an RF square wave signal at the gates . The magnitude of that signal is 5 volts and an oscilloscope will show that. As the duty cycle is 50% a multimeter will read 2.5 volts.

The primary side of T501 should have a DC potential in the range of 9-12 volts on each of 3 pins but during transmit the drain terminals will also have an RF signal riding on that voltage of approximately 45V p-p. At the secondary side? in TX you should see? 15-25 volts p-p RF voltage with no DC bias. These are all from memory and are approximate.?

Hope that helps and GL? 73 JZ KJ4A?


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 9:24?AM Burt Wizeman <burt@...> wrote:
Hey John, thanks for the reply:

All bands no power out.
Verified that no input exists to the antenna tuner.
12 Volts for power.

97 milliamps on receive.
60 meters - 141 Milliamps xmit
40 meters - 154 Milliamps xmit
30 Meters - 177 Milliamps xmit
20 Meters - 207 Milliamps xmit
80 Meter - XMIT Disabled -?

I did a jeweler's loop inspection and checked continuity for the Transformers.? Was wondering what the voltage readings should be at the pads for T501 and T507.? Also, do you know the expected Bias on Transmit for QW503-Q506?? Will check C526 specifically.??

Burt
K4SRQ


 

Might be a winding issue. I will perform the precious suggestions and if necessary , rewind the transformer and see what happens. ? Those transformers. What a blast!

Thanks John,

Burt
K4SRQ?


GIUSEPPE
 

Good evening everyone, I have the same problem as Burt, but I bought the high band QMX already built, I did a few CW QSOs with friends nearby and everything was fine, then I transmitted for 10 hours in WSPR on the 10 m and it stopped delivering RF, now it absorbs 90 mA in reception and 190 mA in transmission, previously it was from 5 W to 6 W on all bands, the antennas are all single band with SWR less than 1, I don't know what it is happened, I also replaced the bs170, but the absorption remained the same, I hope some of you can help me.? thank you very much 73

Giuseppe iu8eun

Il Lun 4 Mar 2024, 17:40 John Z <jdzbrozek@...> ha scritto:
Burt, I'll check out you screen shots later. Thanks for posting them.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 11:37?AM John Z via <jdzbrozek=[email protected]> wrote:
Burt,
That current draw in TX is quite low. Check continuity through L502.

In TX the four PA transistors will have an RF square wave signal at the gates . The magnitude of that signal is 5 volts and an oscilloscope will show that. As the duty cycle is 50% a multimeter will read 2.5 volts.

The primary side of T501 should have a DC potential in the range of 9-12 volts on each of 3 pins but during transmit the drain terminals will also have an RF signal riding on that voltage of approximately 45V p-p. At the secondary side? in TX you should see? 15-25 volts p-p RF voltage with no DC bias. These are all from memory and are approximate.?

Hope that helps and GL? 73 JZ KJ4A?


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 9:24?AM Burt Wizeman <burt@...> wrote:
Hey John, thanks for the reply:

All bands no power out.
Verified that no input exists to the antenna tuner.
12 Volts for power.

97 milliamps on receive.
60 meters - 141 Milliamps xmit
40 meters - 154 Milliamps xmit
30 Meters - 177 Milliamps xmit
20 Meters - 207 Milliamps xmit
80 Meter - XMIT Disabled -?

I did a jeweler's loop inspection and checked continuity for the Transformers.? Was wondering what the voltage readings should be at the pads for T501 and T507.? Also, do you know the expected Bias on Transmit for QW503-Q506?? Will check C526 specifically.??

Burt
K4SRQ


 

Burt: I had the same problem as yourself. Check the tab soldering on the large MOSFET Q507. That is a pre-installed unit and on my board the tab was sitting above the circuit board by about 1/2mm and had not been properly soldered at the factory. When I soldered that on properly it solved my no power out on Tx.