I do remember reading about at least one other person who
killed their QMX by toggling their power supply between 6 and 12
volts, in order to toggle their transmit power. This is similar
to my own scenario, where I forgot to raise the current limit on
my power supply, which went into current limit when I keyed the
radio into a dummy load, then came out of limit when I released
the key, putting a similar voltage transient into the power
supply input. Should I have been more diligent about making sure
my current limit was set correctly? Yes. Is halving and doubling
your input voltage a relatively extreme condition to subject a
power supply to? Also yes. However, simply switching the thing
on is a power supply transient from 0 to 12 volts, so a
transient between 6 and 12 should be well within what it should
be expected to tolerate. I don't think there is a single
DC-powered device in my house that would be harmed by subjecting
it to voltage transients within its specified input range. So I
would have to disagree that this phenomenon should be
categorized as a "constructor error."
Which was exactly my second point.
I don't think there is a single DC-powered device in my house
that would be harmed by subjecting it to voltage transients
within its specified input range. So I would have to
disagree that this phenomenon should be categorized as a
"constructor error."
That you know of... And I didn't categorize it as construction
error, either! :-) It's a condition *I* wouldn't have thought to
address, honestly.
It could still be a problem for an off the self switching supply.
Probably not a problem for a linear regulator, because there's no
window of vulnerability but nowhere near as efficient with the
power consumption.
I refuse to throw stones at this glass house!
Paul -- AI7JR
On 8/29/23 17:40, Stephan Ahonen KE0WVA
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Those are all good reasons the LTM8078 won't be the best choice
for this particular application, I really just picked it by
going on the Analog Devices web site and filtering for a
dual-output regulator with integrated inductors. There are tons
of parts out there, some more cost effective and/or practical
than others. My basic point is that switching regulators are a
problem that has been solved and packaged into off-the-shelf
components by companies with more engineering resources than the
entire amateur radio community combined. There's very little
reason to roll your own solution unless you have very unique
needs.
I don't think that "it's a single source part" is a strong
argument in the context of a product that contains an ARM CPU,
which I can personally attest to being frustratingly
unobtainable during the semiconductor shortage. I also see an
ADC from Texas Instruments and a DAC from Cirrus Logic, also not
generic parts. At least the power supply boards are modular. If
Analog Devices' foundry burned to the ground and they stopped
manufacturing switching regulators overnight, it's not a huge
deal to just spin up a different power supply board that
occupies the same area and produces the same voltages, without
needing to touch the design of the main PCB.
As far as BOM cost, if every dollar of BOM adds two dollars to
retail price (this is my formula for things I build and sell),
I'd have paid an extra $20 for a QMX with that extra $10 of BOM
in the power supply... And spent several fewer hours
troubleshooting my dead radio. That time is worth so much more
than $20 to me. I actually ended up deciding it was more
worthwhile to spend $100 on another kit than gamble on the
possibility that the same event that killed my IC403 didn't also
damage other parts in less obvious ways, forcing me to spend
even more time (and shipping costs from the local Digikey
warehouse) troubleshooting. Take my $20 instead, please.
>Of all the QMX I have yet seen, other than the Q103/Q104
Drain short (manufacturing problem) I have yet to see a failure
that is not attributable to shorts, damaged components or other
construction errors.
I do remember reading about at least one other person who
killed their QMX by toggling their power supply between 6 and 12
volts, in order to toggle their transmit power. This is similar
to my own scenario, where I forgot to raise the current limit on
my power supply, which went into current limit when I keyed the
radio into a dummy load, then came out of limit when I released
the key, putting a similar voltage transient into the power
supply input. Should I have been more diligent about making sure
my current limit was set correctly? Yes. Is halving and doubling
your input voltage a relatively extreme condition to subject a
power supply to? Also yes. However, simply switching the thing
on is a power supply transient from 0 to 12 volts, so a
transient between 6 and 12 should be well within what it should
be expected to tolerate. I don't think there is a single
DC-powered device in my house that would be harmed by subjecting
it to voltage transients within its specified input range. So I
would have to disagree that this phenomenon should be
categorized as a "constructor error."