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OB instrument cluster question time


 

Working on the pod/instrument cluster of the 79.?? Cleaned all the connections on the cluster with deoxit, and made sure there were no obvious breaks in the foil on the back.? The foil seems to have been replaced at some point in the past as it's blue (not brown).?
Put it back in the 928 today and checked to see what's working etc.? First try, all the gauges seemed to work and were responsive (including the previously non-functioning volt meter and oil pressure).? Took it for a spin and speedo and odo still not working.? Get back to check connections etc, and head back out, and on the second start up, the volt meter and oil pressure quit working.
Also of note, on the first start, the ever present red "!"? went away when releasing the parking brake and no warning lights in the cluster.? On the second start (non-functioning oil pressure/volt gauges) I couldn't cancel or turn off the red "!".

Questions for the group.
Start with replacing the ignition switch?
Just bite the bullet and get a new instrument cluster foil (or the new circuit board that's out there)?
Any other potential culprits I should be looking at (like the sender for the speedo)?
Any simple testing procedures for the gauges to see if they are DOA?
and a final question:
Checking the voltmeter when it was working it was showing up near 15 volts, which, when measured at the battery at the back (engine running) was about 14.5 at idle.? Seems high for an OB?? Haven't looked at the alternator yet, but is there an adjustable voltage regulator for the OB (I think Valeo) alternators?? too high at idle?
Don't really want to cook the new battery.

Thanks in advance.........


 

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There are no adjustments on the regulators. 14.5V colt will drop down. There is a small pot on the gauge to adjust it to match the battery though. 15V will not cook the battery and it will drop down when hot.?

Also check and clean the connectors on the warning brain under the dead pedal.

Cheers
Colin J
604-807-4523?


-------- Original message --------
From: "amidlman via groups.io" <midlman@...>
Date: 2024-04-20 7:52?p.m. (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [PacNW928] OB instrument cluster question time

Working on the pod/instrument cluster of the 79.?? Cleaned all the connections on the cluster with deoxit, and made sure there were no obvious breaks in the foil on the back.? The foil seems to have been replaced at some point in the past as it's blue (not brown).?
Put it back in the 928 today and checked to see what's working etc.? First try, all the gauges seemed to work and were responsive (including the previously non-functioning volt meter and oil pressure).? Took it for a spin and speedo and odo still not working.? Get back to check connections etc, and head back out, and on the second start up, the volt meter and oil pressure quit working.
Also of note, on the first start, the ever present red "!"? went away when releasing the parking brake and no warning lights in the cluster.? On the second start (non-functioning oil pressure/volt gauges) I couldn't cancel or turn off the red "!".

Questions for the group.
Start with replacing the ignition switch?
Just bite the bullet and get a new instrument cluster foil (or the new circuit board that's out there)?
Any other potential culprits I should be looking at (like the sender for the speedo)?
Any simple testing procedures for the gauges to see if they are DOA?
and a final question:
Checking the voltmeter when it was working it was showing up near 15 volts, which, when measured at the battery at the back (engine running) was about 14.5 at idle.? Seems high for an OB?? Haven't looked at the alternator yet, but is there an adjustable voltage regulator for the OB (I think Valeo) alternators?? too high at idle?
Don't really want to cook the new battery.

Thanks in advance.........


 

Tom, in my 1980 car, the rivets connecting the foil to the terminals were making intermittent contact. I ended up soldering the rivets to the foil traces, which solved my speedo/odometer problem. I can't remember if the other gauges are connected the same way?? Good luck.?

Andrew Schauer


 

Tom,

I have had mine off due leather rehab of most of my front. I had the broken gear on the trip and odometer. I also cleaned all the tabs on the foil that the connectors go onto with electronic cleaner sprayed onto a Q-tip and rubbed them then took a pencil erase and rubbed over them and this cleaned them up pretty nice. I also cleaned the grounds for the cluster. I did replace the switch electrics and also did the steering wheel bearing and bushing in the WYAIT. Some of the nuts on my foil felt loose so I tightened them them up.

Good luck
David


 

Warning brain check is on the list, as well as those rivets on the speed/foil.? Probably end up doing the ign switch too just because I don't want to go back in there LOL.
Thanks for the tips.?