Re: Timing belt adjustments for Pete and Joe
79 OB.
Just installed a new one 3,000 miles ago before I left the East Coast
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Re: Pete's hood alignment
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Questions for Tom928 and Keith, Timing belt adjustment nuances, Tool List?
Pacnw928?guys-??Since?there?are?now?a?few?of?us?who?would?like?to?adjust?our?timing?belts,?I?spent?some?time?last?night?reading?the?many?step?by?step?guides?on?Rennlist?and?the?Kempf?tool?instructions.??There?are?some?nuances?specific?to?each?year.??I?know?on?the?S4's,?the?clamp?for?the?power?steering?reservoir?often?needs?to?be?loosened.??And?here's?a?example?of?one?of?the?challenges?related?to?adjusting?the?belt?on?my?1985?S3.??This?is?a synopsis of?excerpts?from?Rennlist?posts?over?the?years.
"Adjusting?the?timing?belt?on?the?S3?is?different?from?on?the?S4's,?which?is?what?the?Kempf?tool?instructions?were?written?for.??It's?also?much?different?from?adjusting?the?timing?belts?on?the?earlier?16?valve?cars?which?is?a?job?easily?done?in?a?parking?lot.??One?challenge?on?the?1985?model?is?loosening?and?sliding?the?coil?towards?the?front?and?out?of?the?way.?The?coil?bracket?has?a?13?mm?bolt?on?top?holding?it?to?the?firewall,?and?the?same?size?under?it.?It?also?has?a?Phillips?bolt?running?horizontally?through?the?bracket.??(see?pics).??Sometimes?the?head?and?bottom?of?the?bolt?interfere?with?getting?a?socket?or?wrench?onto?either?bracket?bolt.?Accessing?the?horizontal?bolt?is?a?challenge,?even?with?a?short?angle?Phillips?head?screw?driver.??Some?coil?brackets?are?attached?to?the?body?with?socket?hex?heads,?not?13mm?bolts.?Early?'85's?are?a?mixed?bag,?as?are?the?early?'87?S4's?and?most?production?change?years.??Remember?these?cars?were?all?hand?assembled,?leading?to?many?small?differences.??It?is?sometimes?best?to?remove?the?coil?and?reposition?the?bracket?of?the?coil?on?the?bench?to?avoid?stripping?the?Phillips?head?bolt,?as?the?clamping?bolts?are?often?frozen?up.?Accessing the coil?can?also?be?easier?if?you?have?the?hot?post?removed."
Tom928-?Because?of?these?subtle?differences,?do?you?think?its?a?good?idea?for?us?to?prepare?a?list?of?tools?that?will?be?needed?for?the?jobs???It?is?easy?to?forget?something.??One?thing?I?may?want?to?do?is?oil?the?tensioner?with?90?weight?gear?oil.??I?guess?I?need?a?hand?pump?and?a?hose?that?fits?the?bleeder?valve?on?the?tensioner?(home?depot?for?$10)?unless?you?already?have?that.
Keith?M.-??I?know?you?mentioned?you?have?jackstands?and?floorjacks,?but?do?you?have?many?other?tools???There's?always?the?chance?that?we?run?into?a?problem?we?didn't?anticipate.
Thanks?and?Regards,
Mick
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Re: Timing belt adjustments for Pete and Joe
Joe- It'd be great if you can make the trip. The meetup will be hosted by Keith M. in Battleground, WA. What year 928 do you have? I know there are subtle differences in what needs to be removed to make room to measure the timing belt tension. It depends alot on the year of 928.
Pete- What year is your 928?
Regards,
Mick
1985 928s3 automatic
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 01:59:15 PM PDT, Joe Elliott <jelliott4@...> wrote:
I've been out of the loop and am frankly unlikely to make it, but I did get my 928 put back together before houseguests showed up last week, and they'll be gone by next week, so please keep me in the loop on any further planning.
And I am due for a timing belt re-tension (2000 mi since last time I changed it).
...Where did we decide this meet-up is going to happen?
- Joe (Shoreline, WA)
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Re: Pete's hood alignment
Pete- I'd be happy to help with your hood alignment.
Pacnw928guys- Let me/us know if you need help with any projects. If they're small, I'm happy to help with them at the BBQ. If they're bigger, perhaps I can help soon if you can make the trip down to Portland, or if we have another meetup in the fall.
Regards,
Mick
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 07:19:52 AM PDT, Peter S s/v Dawa II <scottpeterd@...> wrote:
It¡¯s Pete.
That would be fantastic. ?I would also appreciate a set of hands to help me align my hood.
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I've been out of the loop and am frankly unlikely to make it, but I did get my 928 put back together before houseguests showed up last week, and they'll be gone by next week, so please keep me in the loop on any further planning.
And I am due for a timing belt re-tension (2000 mi since last time I changed it).
...Where did we decide this meet-up is going to happen?
- Joe (Shoreline, WA)
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It¡¯s Pete.
That would be fantastic. ?I would also appreciate a set of hands to help me align my hood.
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Re: Keith M- Wine choice?
I'm happy to bring some white wine or a bottle of bourbon for the non wine drinkers.?
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On Aug 16, 2023, at 6:53 AM, mick cowles via groups.io <mickcowles@...> wrote:
? Keith M- For sure, it would be great to have PorKen there. So it looks like this thing is really gonna happen. I think it may be time for me to order some wine! Do you like red wine, or is there something else you prefer? Maybe some beer or spirits? If you do like red wine, feel free to choose from one of the wines in the screenshots. (Tom has already claimed the Argentina Cabernet #7). I can bring whatever bottle you choose, the Argentina Cab for Tom928, and a few more bottles for the rest of us to drink at the BBQ. Let me know.
Regards,
Mick
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 01:57:22 PM PDT, Keith Martin <keithrmartin@...> wrote:
As far as I know PorKen is still around.? His web site is still "working".?? Good idea to invite him.??
Regards, Keith R. Martin Phone: 503-250-2928
Phone: 503-807-6446
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Keith M- For sure, it would be great to have PorKen there. So it looks like this thing is really gonna happen. I think it may be time for me to order some wine! Do you like red wine, or is there something else you prefer? Maybe some beer or spirits? If you do like red wine, feel free to choose from one of the wines in the screenshots. (Tom has already claimed the Argentina Cabernet #7). I can bring whatever bottle you choose, the Argentina Cab for Tom928, and a few more bottles for the rest of us to drink at the BBQ. Let me know.
Regards,
Mick
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 01:57:22 PM PDT, Keith Martin <keithrmartin@...> wrote:
As far as I know PorKen is still around.? His web site is still "working".?? Good idea to invite him.??
Regards, Keith R. Martin Phone: 503-250-2928
Phone: 503-807-6446
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Re: PorKen around anymore?
Michael B- That's great PorKen is still at it. The guy is a 928 legend. If you can persuade him to make the trip, that would be awesome!
Regards,
Mick
1985 Guards Red 928s Automatic
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 08:44:20 PM PDT, Michael Benno <michael.benno@...> wrote:
PorKen is definitely still around and definitely still up to his 928 mad science. His recently released EZKs are a must-have for any S4/GT/GTS owner. And he has some pretty cool exhaust valves that help eliminate drones for all you RMB and high-flow exhaust folks, There is even some research happening for all you 4spd auto folks to help put some spring into your shifting.?
Between?Glen and I, we can likely convince Porken to come for a visit,?
As far as I know PorKen is still around.? His web site is still "working".?? Good idea to invite him.??
Regards, Keith R. Martin Phone: 503-250-2928
Phone: 503-807-6446
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1992 Porsche?928 GTS Japan market
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Hey there Peter (is that your first name, or is it Scott? I couldn't tell from your email address). It would be great if you could make the trip from Bremerton to join us. I can't see why we wouldn't have time to adjust your timing belt as well. It's not too big a job. Looking forward to meeting you if you can make it!
Kind Regards,
Mick Cowles
1985 Guards Red 928s automatic On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 01:23:54 PM PDT, Peter S s/v Dawa II <scottpeterd@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] I might attend.? Up here in Bremerton Haven't given mine a service since I drove it from the east coast.? Def need to tension the timing belt
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Re: PorKen around anymore?
PorKen is definitely still around and definitely still up to his 928 mad science. His recently released EZKs are a must-have for any S4/GT/GTS owner. And he has some pretty cool exhaust valves that help eliminate drones for all you RMB and high-flow exhaust folks, There is even some research happening for all you 4spd auto folks to help put some spring into your shifting.?
Between?Glen and I, we can likely convince Porken to come for a visit,?
As far as I know PorKen is still around.? His web site is still "working".??
Good idea to invite him.??
Regards,
Keith R. Martin
Phone: 503-250-2928
Phone: 503-807-6446
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1992 Porsche?928 GTS Japan market
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Re: PorKen around anymore?
As far as I know PorKen is still around.? His web site is still "working".??
Good idea to invite him.??
Regards,
Keith R. Martin
Phone: 503-250-2928
Phone: 503-807-6446
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I might attend.? Up here in Bremerton
Haven't given mine a service since I drove it from the east coast.? Def need to tension the timing belt
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Re: PorKen around anymore?
Thanks Glenn. I appreciate it!
On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 09:57:51 AM PDT, Glenn W. <gwhitener@...> wrote:
He's definitely still around, and definitely still deeply involved with 928s. I'll ping him offline to see if he's aware of the discussion around getting together.
Cheers
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Re: PorKen around anymore?
He's definitely still around, and definitely still deeply involved with 928s. I'll ping him offline to see if he's aware of the discussion around getting together.
Cheers
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pacnw928 guys- Anyone know if PorKen is still around. The guy's made so many contributions to our community, it seems appropriate to invite him to our BBQ. Even if he's too busy, or has moved on to other things, I'm sure he'd appreciate the gesture.
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Keith- Tom M's suggestion to create a new thread is a good one. Some people who haven't checked in for awhile may see it and want to join us. The use of a group texting or emailing is a helpful though because once everyone checks in via email, you'd only have to send directions once.
On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 08:14:12 AM PDT, amidlman <midlman@...> wrote:
Hey Keith,
Probably would be a good idea to create a new thread and call it "End of Summer 928 Battlefest in Battle Ground :) " or something like that.?
Put in your email address and request that folks email you directly for the address/directions and phone number.?
Also suggest putting the date/time (Aug 26 12 to 5 or whatever works for you) .
cheers,
Tom
Still a maybe, but put me down on the list for now.
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And more:
Add whether you have a BBQ there??
Let them know what you will have there wrt food items.
Folks that are interested should post up what they are bringing so you don't end up with 14 bags of buns and no burgers LOL....
or in this case 20 bottles of wine :D
Suggest working on the car before drinking the wine. Sure to have better results :D
Tom
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Hey Keith,
Probably would be a good idea to create a new thread and call it "End of Summer 928 Battlefest in Battle Ground :) " or something like that.?
Put in your email address and request that folks email you directly for the address/directions and phone number.?
Also suggest putting the date/time (Aug 26 12 to 5 or whatever works for you) .
cheers,
Tom
Still a maybe, but put me down on the list for now.
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Peter S s/v Dawa II
Michael Benno
Keith Martin