Hello everyone,
With regards to the map are we going to be able to edit on our end or do we have to get a map on our end and send it marking our area? Please advise.
Imani A, Chair
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 09:01:41 PM PDT, Joni via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Yes Henry, thanks so much for your input!! I have passed on your comments to our subcommittee working on this referral.? Joni
On Jul 7, 2021, at 4:41 PM, chad lake <clake214@...> wrote:
?You’re going to need a biiiiiiiggggggger?map so we can include the Online Service Area…….the PSR is our home ?
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Yes Henry, thanks so much for your input!! I have passed on your comments to our subcommittee working on this referral.? Joni
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On Jul 7, 2021, at 4:41 PM, chad lake <clake214@...> wrote:
?You’re going to need a biiiiiiiggggggger?map so we can include the Online Service Area…….the PSR is our home ?
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Can we use a laptop symbol with a satellite symbol and an anchor symbol next to it??
We are plugged in, broadcasting the message of Cocaine Anonymous around the world while being anchored in the PSR ?
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We can use a satellite symbol!
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 4:41 PM, chad lake <clake214@...> wrote:
You’re going to need a biiiiiiiggggggger?map so we can include the Online Service Area…….the PSR is our home ?
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We can use a satellite symbol!
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 4:41 PM, chad lake <clake214@...> wrote: You’re going to need a biiiiiiiggggggger?map so we can include the Online Service Area…….the PSR is our home ?
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You’re going to need a biiiiiiiggggggger?map so we can include the Online Service Area…….the PSR is our home ?
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Thanks? 
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 11:23:20 AM PDT, Tom Phelan via groups.io <t3wharfrat@...> wrote:
Thanks Henry, I agree with you. The party?asking for this?mapping is the S&B committee. With respect to the PSR, I’m not confident we’ll be able to definitively delineate specific, identifiable geographical borders. But we can give it a shot. Thanks again for your input,
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 9:20 AM, Allikas, Henry W. <hallikas@...> wrote:
Dear CAWS People interested in maps.
The early maps helped sort out the regional structure of CA. They help groups, areas and regions organize themselves in a way that the physical meeting of group representatives, to work on common goals, could be practically accomplished. But their boarders
were necessarily ambiguous. This because our ideal is always the Least necessary organization. "CA as such ought never be organized". Any codification of such boundaries is a zero sum game between Organization of CA on one hand and group autonomy on the other.
Furthermore, precise definition of such boundaries would first require precise definition of the rules of group/area/region affiliation in the WS Manual. I hope this is not a stealthy approach to such a goal.
I'm not opposed to maps. They are very helpful. But I would ask that the identities and intentions of the authors of this survey be made much more clear.
Thanks for reading.
Henry Allikas, delegate SGPVCA
PS: Please don't show this e-mail to Bob L. (lol)
The folder is set up in our? [email protected] platform.
Tom
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 8:02 AM, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Thanks Henry, I agree with you. The party?asking for this?mapping is the S&B committee. With respect to the PSR, I’m not confident we’ll be able to definitively delineate specific, identifiable geographical borders. But we can give it a shot. Thanks again for your input,
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 9:20 AM, Allikas, Henry W. <hallikas@...> wrote:
Dear CAWS People interested in maps.
The early maps helped sort out the regional structure of CA. They help groups, areas and regions organize themselves in a way that the physical meeting of group representatives, to work on common goals, could be practically accomplished. But their boarders
were necessarily ambiguous. This because our ideal is always the Least necessary organization. "CA as such ought never be organized". Any codification of such boundaries is a zero sum game between Organization of CA on one hand and group autonomy on the other.
Furthermore, precise definition of such boundaries would first require precise definition of the rules of group/area/region affiliation in the WS Manual. I hope this is not a stealthy approach to such a goal.
I'm not opposed to maps. They are very helpful. But I would ask that the identities and intentions of the authors of this survey be made much more clear.
Thanks for reading.
Henry Allikas, delegate SGPVCA
PS: Please don't show this e-mail to Bob L. (lol)
The folder is set up in our? [email protected] platform.
Tom
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 8:02 AM, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Let me figure it out Imani!!!
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On Jul 4, 2021, at 8:05 AM, Tom Phelan via groups.io <t3wharfrat@...> wrote:
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The folder is set up in our? [email protected] platform.Tom
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 8:02 AM, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Dear CAWS People interested in maps.
The early maps helped sort out the regional structure of CA. They help groups, areas and regions organize themselves in a way that the physical meeting of group representatives, to work on common goals, could be practically accomplished. But their boarders
were necessarily ambiguous. This because our ideal is always the Least necessary organization. "CA as such ought never be organized". Any codification of such boundaries is a zero sum game between Organization of CA on one hand and group autonomy on the other.
Furthermore, precise definition of such boundaries would first require precise definition of the rules of group/area/region affiliation in the WS Manual. I hope this is not a stealthy approach to such a goal.
I'm not opposed to maps. They are very helpful. But I would ask that the identities and intentions of the authors of this survey be made much more clear.
Thanks for reading.
Henry Allikas, delegate SGPVCA
PS: Please don't show this e-mail to Bob L. (lol)
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The folder is set up in our? [email protected] platform.
Tom
On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 8:02 AM, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 8:02 AM, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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I’ve added a folder under Photos with a few maps. They are not correct. And I’m not sure we can really figure out geographical boundaries for all the areas in the PSR. IEACA and WIECA are especially difficult. Also, AVACA and SFVCA are confusing to me. I remember
there is also confusion relating to SFVCA and Central California. Further, is Santa Clarita Valley part of SFVCA or AVACA? What about Kern County? This is a major work-in-progress project that affects C.A. as a whole since a world map is being created that
one day might be part of an app that will allow meetings to be found.
ILAS,
Tom?
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Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair
Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention??
?
S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal
of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Is there a way you can allow editing to the map that has been sent so that we can mark our area out on it?
IEACA Chair Imani A
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 05:51:22 PM PDT, Joni Etue via groups.io <joni.etue@...> wrote:
Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention?? ? S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Hi all, hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!
Below is a link to a map of southern CA. Can each area delegate please draw a line around their respective areas and return the marked maps to my attention?? ? S&B is working on a project to map all the areas in the world so the maps can potentially be added to the CA.org website should the conference approve the concept. We have searched all the archives for petition information and have collected a great deal of the information but the PSR is still not completed. Because most of our areas were established so long ago there is no historical data available. As such, we are asking each area to please assist by providing a rough drawing of their areas.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I would love to hear all your feedback and information!!! Thanks for your assistance!
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Re: Urgent, credentialing delegates for conference
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On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 4:07 PM, Imani Anderson via groups.io <faithisimani77@...> wrote:
We are from Inland Empire and we have been credentialed since April
Thank each of you for your submitting your information Imani A. Area Chair? Shelia G. Lead Delegate Paris R. Second Delegate Clifton D. Third Delegate? Tina G. Alt-Delegate
On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:58:44 PM PDT, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
Dear All,?
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This is urgent. The following areas have still not credentialed their delegates-
Antelope Valley area
Hawaii area
Central California area
San Diego area
San Fernando Valley area
Southern Nevada area
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Please credential all Delegates and Alternate Delegates as soon as possible. This is for those going to Conference and those who cannot go.?All of you please. See the link below. If you need help with this please let me know.
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Ilas,
Tom Phelan
Pacific South regional trustee, 719-648-2482
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Re: Urgent, credentialing delegates for conference
We are from Inland Empire and we have been credentialed since April
Thank each of you for your submitting your information Imani A. Area Chair? Shelia G. Lead Delegate Paris R. Second Delegate Clifton D. Third Delegate? Tina G. Alt-Delegate
On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:58:44 PM PDT, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
Dear All,?
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This is urgent. The following areas have still not credentialed their delegates-
Antelope Valley area
Hawaii area
Central California area
San Diego area
San Fernando Valley area
Southern Nevada area
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Please credential all Delegates and Alternate Delegates as soon as possible. This is for those going to Conference and those who cannot go.?All of you please. See the link below. If you need help with this please let me know.
??
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Ilas,
Tom Phelan
Pacific South regional trustee, 719-648-2482
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Urgent, credentialing delegates for conference
Dear All,?
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This is urgent. The following areas have still not credentialed their delegates-
Antelope Valley area
Hawaii area
Central California area
San Diego area
San Fernando Valley area
Southern Nevada area
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Please credential all Delegates and Alternate Delegates as soon as possible. This is for those going to Conference and those who cannot go.?All of you please. See the link below. If you need help with this please let me know.
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Ilas,
Tom Phelan
Pacific South regional trustee, 719-648-2482
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Re: Hotel Booking code for 2021 Conference
On Monday, June 21, 2021, 08:51:24 AM PDT, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
Here is the hotel booking code for this year's conference. If you have questions or problems please contact me at psrt@...?or by phone (text first so my phone will recognize number) at 719-648-2482. Thanks, Tom Phelan Pacific South Region trustee
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Hotel Booking code for 2021 Conference
Here is the hotel booking code for this year's conference. If you have questions or problems please contact me at psrt@...?or by phone (text first so my phone will recognize number) at 719-648-2482. Thanks, Tom Phelan Pacific South Region trustee
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Re: Agenda for PSR Caucus June 5, 2021
On Friday, June 18, 2021, 01:07:51 PM PDT, Tom Phelan <psrt@...> wrote:
There were no action items discussed. Mostly it was just area reports. So I did not take minutes.
Sorry,
Tom Phelan
The WIE was unable to attend this meeting. When will the minutes be available?
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Re: Agenda for PSR Caucus June 5, 2021
There were no action items discussed. Mostly it was just area reports. So I did not take minutes.
Sorry,
Tom Phelan
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The WIE was unable to attend this meeting. When will the minutes be available?
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Aurora Lopez