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Looking for a birth record for our G Grandfather Joshua F Fisher b. 10 May 1846 Schuylkill Co. d. 29 Jan 1929
in Erie Co., PA m. 1st Rebecca Todd Thompson on 21 Aug 1871 Rebecca Todd b. 29 May 1854 d. 30 Jan 1892
Joshua F Fisher m. 2nd Elizabeth Bole on 6 Jun 1906

Children of Joshua and Rebecca:
Mary Jane Fisher 1873-1886 never married, never had children (possibly
named after his adopted mother Mary Jane)
John Enoch Fisher 1876-1895 never married, never had children (possibly
names after his adopted father John H Crate and his maternal grandfather
Enoch Dye Thompson)
William Kelso Fisher 1879-1956 never married, never had children (maybe
named after his paternal grandfather???)
Sarah Ann Fisher 1883-1919 m. William H Meredith (possibly names after
her maternal grandmother)
Samuel Alexander Fisher 1887-1920 never married, never had children
(maybe named after his paternal grandfather???)

Family history states Joshua F Fisher was adopted by a German family (possibly the Crate's)
and that he was born in Schuylkill Co. The Rose Twp., Jefferson CO., PA 1860 census shows a
Joshua Fisher living with John H Crate and his wife Mary Jane (Thrush)(daughter of Samuel Thrush
and Sarah A Kirker)(Mary Jane aka Mary Jame and Mary Ann). The Rose Twp., Jefferson CO., PA 1870
census shows a Joshua Fisher living with John H Crate and his wife Barbara Ann Cyphert.
I heard from a Crate researcher that John Henry Crate did not have any adopted children.
Don't know where Joshua was in any 1850! Can't find him in any of the 1850 census lists
from Jefferson Co or for Schuylkill Co. Possible family tragedy between 1846 and 1860, that left our Joshua orphaned.

I suspect they maybe could be related through the Thrush family, but can't make the connection.
Our Joshua named his first born girl Mary Jane likely after Mary Jane Thrush (1st wife of John Crate).
She must have had a significant impact on him, either by being a relative of just being motherly
to him in her short time with him. He named his first born son John (maybe after John Henry Crate)
Enoch (middle name after his wife's father). His third born a son was named William Kelso
(Kelso is a common name in his wife's family (Rebecca Todd Thompson)). His fourth born a daughter
born, our Grandmother was named Sarah Ann (Sarah was his wife's mothers name). His fifth a son was
named Samuel Alexander (might be a clue in this naming).

From the census records it appears he took in two Weaver children who seem to be related to his

second wife Barbara Ann Cyphert (cousins).
Joshua F Fisher enlisted in the Civil War in Sep 6 1864 and was discharged in Jun 2 1865
A lot of the Thrush's were members of the Lutheran Church in Newville. One Thursh married to a
Nancy Fisher specifically catches my eye. That Nancy Fisher is the daughter of John FIsher and
Mary Alleman. Among the family trees there is mention of "Old Dutch Church" and "Old Dutch Graveyard"
and Grace Reformed Church. While this is all speculation and in the Thrush's are mostly in
Cumberland Co., it's a bunny trail I at least must explore.

As i read thru your post twice I kept seeing familiar sur names. My moms main line is from Jefferson and Rose Twp holds many of them. Thompson Kelso and Fisher sounded familiar. The Fisher was more from Lycoming to Armstrong, but they could have moved into Jefferson. The GREAT migration from Schuylkill and Lycoming to Jefferrson and Armstrong late first half of 1800's found those families all intermarried.
I do have ONE name Enoch Dye Thompson who is ggreatgrandfather of Robert Lee Witherow, husband of my aunt Martha Elizabeth Swarts of Brookville.

John Fisher 1800-1853 Amrstrong, in my tree married Barbara Errett d 1843. They started out in Phily and went to Lebanon and had two kids and then on to Rose Jefferson and then both die in Cowanshannock, Armstrong, Pennsylvania. But their kids are in Jefferson. Some marry into my Brosius. John has a Nancy Fisher to his second wife Rebecca Yarger.
All my Thrush stay in Franklin, John Gayman Thrush and Catherine Sollenberger Desc.

The 1940's into 50's there was wide spread deaths from something as I have more than one family of kids being sorted out to aunts and uncles.
I would think from where I am sitting and all I have in Schuylkill and Jefferson that you are right on with Joshua being adopted by Crate.
Sometimes the stories are kept or swept under the carpet as they somehow hope to protect someone. Sometimes it is the pain of the death of parents and so many at one time as it often was then. My Boyer line has such in the same Schuylkill area.
The best in your searching.
Connie
Sholes Swarts Oberholser and Wenger Tree

Another thought.
Take a look at my Beneville Fisher family (son of John 1800-1853who is in Lebanon Co and could have moved to Schuylkill or migrated with them to Jefferson so they were perhaps perceived as from Schuylkill. It's the two surviving of Benevilles' who marry my Brosius and Witherow lines.

Beneville Fisher 1815-1865 has 7 children. His youngest and oldest survive childhood. The middle five don't. They all are born between 1842-1853 and die 1852- 1860.
Jacob Fisher 1842-1860 could be the father of Joshua FOR INSTANCE to make my point.
I haven't taken time here to search out more notes and the rest of the family; but seems there is ROOM For Joshua to be son of Jacob 1842 if he marries young and dies soon after [ which did happen to my Boyers ]

Connie
Sholes Swarts Oberholser and Wenger Families
this is at ancestry and
Sholes Swrarts Oberholser and Wenger Branches and More
world connect rootsweb which is free but this isn't updated to today

Thanks for the email!? It's been impossible to get over this wall to find anything about Joshua's family.? Thought I would put the info out there again once these two sites combined efforts.

I have your Aunt Martha Elizabeth Swarts in my family tree as married to my cousin Robert Lee Witherow. She is the only Swarts in my tree.

Our Joshua F Fisher was born 10 May 1846. ? I did investigate a Benewell Fisher as possibly our Joshua's father:

*Civil War Pension Index Cards for Benewell Fisher*

Name:



Benewell Fisher

Rank:



[BLANK]

Company:



F

Regiment:



67

State:



Pennsylvania

Arm of Service:



Infantry

Date of Filing:



State/Arm of Service:



Company/Regiment:



Publication Title:



Organization Index to Pension Files of Veterans Who Served Between 1861 and 1900

NARA Publication Number:



T289

Publisher:



National Archives and Records Administration




Civil War Pensions

*United States Census, 1860 for Benewell Fisher*

Name:



Benewell Fisher

Residence:



, Jefferson, Pennsylvania

Ward:



Clover Township

Age:



44 years

Estimated Birth Year:



1816

Birthplace:



Pennsylvania

Gender:



Male

Page:



178

Family Number:



31

Film Number:



805118

DGS Number:



4289728

Image Number:



00096

NARA Number:



M653