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Was reading an article from
Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are
experiencing with re-opening across the globe, ? In the article, it lists an
option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag, ? Might be something to
consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a
way to minimize direct body contact. ?
— Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
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I was reading this too this morning and was interested in the concept of the Ramble Tag.? I found the website but haven't looked too far into getting?one shipped to the US.? It looks interesting though. ? Cat ?
Catherine J Bacik MA, COMS, CLVT Orientation and Mobility Specialist: Department for the Blind and Vision Impaired 1076 Jefferson Highway Staunton, VA. 24401 P: 540-332-7862
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:38 AM Chris Tabb < chris@...> wrote:
Was reading an article from
Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are
experiencing with re-opening across the globe, ? In the article, it lists an
option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag, ? Might be something to
consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a
way to minimize direct body contact. ?
— Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
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?I'm reading that article right now ? it could deal with the stigma of physically touching another person by having this bit of Velcro and a nylon strap acting as an intermediary. Going forward this could be good for students who are afraid of touching peple. ?19 pounds seems like a lot I wonder if it's available through MaxiAIDS.?
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On Jun 16, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Chris Tabb < chris@...> wrote:
Was reading an article from
Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are
experiencing with re-opening across the globe, ?
In the article, it lists an
option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag, ?
Might be something to
consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a
way to minimize direct body contact. ?
— Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
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Hi All - The Carroll Center for the Blind sells Ramble Tags at their online store:
? Laura Koester, MS Ed., TVI/COMS AMESVI Central MA Region Rep. Marlborough Public Schools
? ? ?I'm reading that article right now ? it could deal with the stigma of physically touching another person by having this bit of Velcro and a nylon strap acting as an intermediary. Going forward this could be good for students who are afraid of touching peple. ?19 pounds seems like a lot I wonder if it's available through MaxiAIDS.?
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On Jun 16, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Chris Tabb <chris@...> wrote: ? Was reading an article from Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are experiencing with re-opening across the globe, In the article, it lists an option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag, Might be something to consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a way to minimize direct body contact. ?
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Good day!? Ramble tag is available from the RNIB ()
but, stateside, at Carroll Center for the Blind.? , for $35.00 ( I think.)
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This may be a good solution for some, but the only issue, the Ramble tag, might have, is the guide needs to put it on, and return it to the individual, so one may need more than
one, to reduce cross contamination.?
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Adaptive Guiding Techniques:? ?????? Everyone wears a mask!
??????? Use a voice guide
??????? Place hand on guide’s back.
??????? If shopping, use the cart between you and the guide.
??????? Use a backup cane for guide to hold one end & person holds the other end.
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Cane & guide dogs need to be used with most of these techniques.? These “adaptive guiding techniques” offer less protection than standard guiding techniques.
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Carry extra masks and gloves to offer to guides.
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Always use hand sanitizer after any contract or entering or exiting a location.
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Carry a re-sealable plastic bag for trash disposal of gloves and masks to dispose of items, upon return home.
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Is there a different way to do the trip?? (On-line shopping, friends or families, etc., while COVID19 social distancing guidelines are in place?)?
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Be prepared with a plan, if one needs a guide due to COVID restrictions to get around a place, have your list, call ahead to find out what are the COVID changes in your business,
etc., so you are prepared with work arounds to get your errands done.
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Meg Robertson COMS MA
Director, Orientation and Mobility Department
Massachusetts Commission for the Blind
600 Washington St. 3rd Floor
Boston MA 02111
617-626-7581
Meg.Robertson@...
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The Massachusetts White Cane Law states “At street crossings, motorists must STOP for pedestrians using a white cane
or guide dog!”
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?I'm reading that article right now ? it could deal with the stigma of physically touching another person by having this bit of Velcro and a nylon strap acting as an intermediary. Going forward this could be good for students who are afraid
of touching peple. ?19 pounds seems like a lot I wonder if it's available through MaxiAIDS.?
Doug Gilbert
On Jun 16, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Chris Tabb <chris@...> wrote:
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Was reading an article from Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are experiencing with re-opening across the globe,
In the article, it lists an option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag,
Might be something to consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a way to minimize direct body contact.
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I am glad to see people using creativity to try to solve concerns, but after looking at the product I struggle with seeing why it would be helpful.?
It does not allow for further distancing.? It still has the person’s hand very close to the guide’s arm.
Why is this any better than wearing a glove?? Unless we use something rigid along the same principle of a guide rope, it is not going to give subtle body movement cues from the guide.
Would a pvc or other rigid baton give more info? ?How about using the cane as a guide stick?
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I see the issue being more the distance between the guide and the person, not the location of the touch.? Wearing a sleeve or having the person wear a glove seems more appropriate to me.
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Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M. Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT
State of Maine
Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired
207 446-7779
Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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Subject: [OandM] Guide Technique Option
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Was reading an article from Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are experiencing with re-opening across the globe,
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In the article, it lists an option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag,
?
Might be something to consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a way to minimize direct body contact.
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-- Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M.Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT State of Maine Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired 207 446-7779 Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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Hi Kimberly,
I do indeed like the other options such as using the PVC baton; though for some use cases the “Ramble Tag” may be useful. In environments such as schools for the blind where students with an array of cognitive and functional abilities may need regular guidance, and may be unwilling/unable to wear PPE (i.e. gloves, masks, face shields, etc.) and have not yet learned to use something like a baton, the Ramble Tag may be a closer approximation to what the are comfortable with. The functional fixedness of some individuals may be new learning for all of us born out of sheer necessity.? -- Sent from iPhone chris@... 512.660.2750
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On Jun 17, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Stumph, Kimberly A <kimberly.a.stumph@...> wrote:
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I am glad to see people using creativity to try to solve concerns, but after looking at the product I struggle with seeing why it would be helpful.?
It does not allow for further distancing.? It still has the person’s hand very close to the guide’s arm.
Why is this any better than wearing a glove?? Unless we use something rigid along the same principle of a guide rope, it is not going to give subtle body movement cues from the guide.
Would a pvc or other rigid baton give more info? ?How about using the cane as a guide stick?
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I see the issue being more the distance between the guide and the person, not the location of the touch.? Wearing a sleeve or having the person wear a glove seems more appropriate to me.
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Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M. Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT
State of Maine
Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired
207 446-7779
Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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Was reading an article from Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are experiencing with re-opening across the globe,
?
In the article, it lists an option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag,
?
Might be something to consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a way to minimize direct body contact.
?
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-- Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M.Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT State of Maine Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired 207 446-7779 Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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Kim, I read the article too.? I agree with the you.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [OandM] Guide Technique Option
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I am glad to see people using creativity to try to solve concerns, but after looking at the product I struggle with seeing why it would be helpful.?
It does not allow for further distancing.? It still has the person’s hand very close to the guide’s arm.
Why is this any better than wearing a glove?? Unless we use something rigid along the same principle of a guide rope, it is not going to give subtle body movement cues from the guide.
Would a pvc or other rigid baton give more info? ?How about using the cane as a guide stick?
?
I see the issue being more the distance between the guide and the person, not the location of the touch.? Wearing a sleeve or having the person wear a glove seems more appropriate to me.
?
Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M. Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT
State of Maine
Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired
207 446-7779
Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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EXTERNAL: This email originated from outside of the State of Maine Mail System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender
and know the content is safe.
Was reading an article from Forbes on the challenges people who are blind and visually impaired are experiencing with re-opening across the globe,
?
In the article, it lists an option for Guide Technique called The Ramble Tag,
?
Might be something to consider for Staff who are doing lots of guiding throughout their workday as a way to minimize direct body contact.
?
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Kimberly Stumph, M.S., M.Ed., COMS, CLVT, CVRT
State of Maine
Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired
207 446-7779
Kimberly.a.stumph@...
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Chris Tabb