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Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

I'm currently near Sherbrooke and it hasn't gotten crazy yet. Found a parking lot we're going to stay at for the night.?

-Richard?

On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 19:45 yeldahtron <keith_hadley@...> wrote:
While we're on the topic of prepping, firearms anyone?

NO. JUST JOKING!

Whatever happens, be ready, but be Canadian.? Be courteous, patient, accepting -- and say "sorry" a lot.?


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

While we're on the topic of prepping, firearms anyone?

NO. JUST JOKING!

Whatever happens, be ready, but be Canadian.? Be courteous, patient, accepting -- and say "sorry" a lot.?


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Oooh! Good one! I¡¯m grabbing those now.


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

I forgot to mention: Prepping: Bringing my passport in case I have to return home via the US.


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

I am worried for the world's worst traffic jam ever in the Montreal Sherbrook corridor (as well as 50 to 100 km buffer). Is it really worth it to go there?? Perhaos we need traffic prediction based on current airport congestion..

Cornwall border crossing into and back from US might be sweetspot for low crowds. Drive Eastward to Burlington Monpelier if needed.

Marco


On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 5:29 p.m., yeldahtron
<keith_hadley@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Mother Earth is such a tease! Today's weather tomorrow would be great!?

I was initially planning to watch totality from a dead-end street near a truck weigh station on the 401 in Gananoque, a short drive from home with an easy in-and-out, avoiding popular spots in town and major highways.? That plan is no longer viable. My Plan B since Thursday has been: go to Granby, QC and onward to Magog or Sherbrooke, if need be.

I'm worried I am not alone.? If everyone in Ontario and Northern NY is heading to the Eastern Townships tomorrow, life could get very interesting very quickly -- especially since there are only a few bridges crossing the St. Lawrence, and there are not a lot of roads on the south shore of Quebec.?

I'm prepping.

I'll depart with a full tank of gas (600 km of reach), but I'm bringing 20 extra litres (+300 km of reach) to avoid gas stations.
I'm bringing lunch and dinner to avoid restaurants and fast-food outlets.? If things go south after that, I figure I can consume spouse for breakfast, lunch and dinner on Tuesday. (Perhaps there'll be leftovers on Wednesday. I could make soup for Thursday.? Don't judge me: she has the same plan.)

I'm brining 4 litres of water (2 l/person).? If I were a real prepper, I would also bring at least 2 l/person of empty bottles.
I'm bringing sleeping bags, in case we have to sleep in the car.
I have my GPS, but I've downloaded offline copies of maps of the South Shore onto my phone.?
I'm bringing cash.

If all goes well, I'll need none of that stuff, and will be home Monday night.


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

This clear sky chart is only 3km from Rockport:
<>

The forecast does not look good for Rockport.

-ad
ps. for those who are unfamiliar with the clear sky charts: the CMC
cloud, transparency, and seeing forecast models used by the charts are
specifically designed for astronomy. Civil weather forecasts often
disagree.


attilla danko, , danko@...,
attilladanko@...
No AI was used to write this email.




On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 6:09?PM Sebastian Kowalski via groups.io
<sebastianski@...> wrote:



My plan A was Rockport because of the 3+ minutes for totality and relative close driving distance. Still hoping to see better odds Monday morning. Looks like there is low humidity in the upper atmosphere and the clouds in the models seem to dissipate but I am not a gambling man :).





On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 05:00:30 p.m. EDT, Attilla Danko <danko@...> wrote:


Attilla: ... surely the gods of the knights who say ¡°Ni¡± will favor us semi-locally with good weather ?
The gods guarantee clear skies for the eclipse ... somehere along the
eclipse track. But it might be Arkansas. :) :(

So far the cloud/transparency forecast for southern quebec is looking
pretty good. But check the forecasts. They're updated every 6 hours.
Next update 18:00 to to 18:30 tonight.

-ad






Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 



My plan A was Rockport because of the 3+ minutes for totality and relative close driving distance.? Still hoping to see better odds Monday morning.? Looks like there is low humidity in the upper atmosphere and the clouds in the models seem to dissipate but I am not a gambling man :).


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On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 05:00:30 p.m. EDT, Attilla Danko <danko@...> wrote:


> Attilla: ...? surely the gods of the knights who say ¡°Ni¡± will favor us semi-locally with good weather ?

The gods guarantee clear skies for the eclipse ... somehere along the
eclipse track. But it might be Arkansas. :) :(

So far the cloud/transparency forecast for? southern quebec is looking
pretty good. But check the forecasts. They're updated every 6 hours.
Next update 18:00 to to 18:30 tonight.

-ad






Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 
Edited

Mother Earth is such a tease! Today's weather tomorrow would be great!?

I was initially planning to watch totality from a dead-end street near a truck weigh station on the 401 in Gananoque, a short drive from home with an easy in-and-out, avoiding popular spots in town and major highways.? That plan is no longer viable. My Plan B since Thursday has been: go to Granby, QC and onward to Magog or Sherbrooke, if need be.

I'm worried I am not alone.? If everyone in Ontario and Northern NY is heading to the Eastern Townships tomorrow, life could get very interesting very quickly -- especially since there are only a few bridges crossing the St. Lawrence, and there are not a lot of roads on the south shore of Quebec.?

I'm prepping.

I'll depart with a full tank of gas (600 km of reach), but I'm bringing 20 extra litres (+300 km of reach) to avoid gas stations.
I'm bringing lunch and dinner to avoid restaurants and fast-food outlets.? If things go south after that, I figure I can consume spouse for breakfast, lunch and dinner on Tuesday. (Perhaps there'll be leftovers on Wednesday. I could make soup for Thursday.? Don't judge me: she has the same plan.)
I'm brining 4 litres of water (2 l/person).? If I were a real prepper, I would also bring at least 2 l/person of empty bottles.
I'm bringing sleeping bags, in case we have to sleep in the car.
I have my GPS, but I've downloaded offline copies of maps of the South Shore onto my phone.?
I'm bringing cash.

If all goes well, I'll need none of that stuff, and will be home Monday night.


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Attilla: ... surely the gods of the knights who say ¡°Ni¡± will favor us semi-locally with good weather ?
The gods guarantee clear skies for the eclipse ... somehere along the
eclipse track. But it might be Arkansas. :) :(

So far the cloud/transparency forecast for southern quebec is looking
pretty good. But check the forecasts. They're updated every 6 hours.
Next update 18:00 to to 18:30 tonight.

-ad


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

?I would much rather go closer! There¡¯s still time, we are talking about the weather here

Attilla: with all your great work over the years on the clear sky chart, surely the gods of the knights who say ¡°Ni¡± will favor us semi-locally with good weather ?


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

The forecasts are getting better for Cornwall but the sky clock is looking worse!!


On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 4:00?PM Robert Courtemanche <loafer@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Granby def looking like a possible option ¡°nearby¡±


sorry for the edits , fixing a post on mobile is more complicated then it seems. Weather forecast for Granby looks good so far?


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

The clear sky chart for Granby is currently forecasting clear with
with better than average transparency:
<>



attilla danko, , danko@...,
attilladanko@...
No AI was used to write this email.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 3:57?PM Robert Courtemanche <loafer@...> wrote:

Granny def looking like a possible option ¡°nearby¡±


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 
Edited

Granby def looking like a possible option ¡°nearby¡±


sorry for the edits , fixing a post on mobile is more complicated then it seems. Weather forecast for Granby looks good so far?


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Hey Marco,
Funny you mentioned Malone as my original plan was to go there and fly fish hoping I catch a monster trout when it goes dark fooling them to come out from hiding. Looks like a thin layer of clouds there and Cornwall.?

Cheers,
Albert

On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 11:41?AM Marco Vanderkooij <marcovanderkooij@...> wrote:
Hi,?

I think just across the border in the US (Malone, perhaps Burlington if needed) might be an alternative for the following reason:

Avoid huge crowds descending from Montreal and N America. And in particular the return home towards Montreal area.

Marco




On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 7:57 a.m., ALbert
<alboodie@...> wrote:
Things are looking grim except for the Eastern Townships in Quebec.? I figure a 2 hour 36 min drive to a spot between Granby and Bromont QC is the closest from Ottawa.? I determined this bouncing around with Attilla's fabulous clear sky clock 9which?used to govern my life from the early 2000's to 2007).? ?

Two questions:? obviously?asking if there is a closer destination?? and will the sky clock accept long and lat?

Cheers,
Albert.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:02?PM InQ <inq@...> wrote:
I have been using this as a good estimate. You get to choose your forecast model, and differentiate between lower, middle and high clouds



Best one to look at so far that I have found.

InQ

On 2024-04-06 12:26 p.m., ALbert wrote:
Attila,
It's not looking?good for Cornwall. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Albert


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Hi,?

I think just across the border in the US (Malone, perhaps Burlington if needed) might be an alternative for the following reason:

Avoid huge crowds descending from Montreal and N America. And in particular the return home towards Montreal area.

Marco




On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 7:57 a.m., ALbert
<alboodie@...> wrote:
Things are looking grim except for the Eastern Townships in Quebec.? I figure a 2 hour 36 min drive to a spot between Granby and Bromont QC is the closest from Ottawa.? I determined this bouncing around with Attilla's fabulous clear sky clock 9which?used to govern my life from the early 2000's to 2007).? ?

Two questions:? obviously?asking if there is a closer destination?? and will the sky clock accept long and lat?

Cheers,
Albert.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:02?PM InQ <inq@...> wrote:
I have been using this as a good estimate. You get to choose your forecast model, and differentiate between lower, middle and high clouds



Best one to look at so far that I have found.

InQ

On 2024-04-06 12:26 p.m., ALbert wrote:
Attila,
It's not looking?good for Cornwall. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Albert


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Two questions: obviously asking if there is a closer destination? and will the sky clock accept long and lat?
No but Astrospheric will. Astrospheric uses the same cloud-forecsat
model as the clear sky charts.


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

Things are looking grim except for the Eastern Townships in Quebec.? I figure a 2 hour 36 min drive to a spot between Granby and Bromont QC is the closest from Ottawa.? I determined this bouncing around with Attilla's fabulous clear sky clock 9which?used to govern my life from the early 2000's to 2007).? ?

Two questions:? obviously?asking if there is a closer destination?? and will the sky clock accept long and lat?

Cheers,
Albert.


On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:02?PM InQ <inq@...> wrote:
I have been using this as a good estimate. You get to choose your forecast model, and differentiate between lower, middle and high clouds



Best one to look at so far that I have found.

InQ

On 2024-04-06 12:26 p.m., ALbert wrote:
Attila,
It's not looking?good for Cornwall. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Albert


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

InQ
 

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I have been using this as a good estimate. You get to choose your forecast model, and differentiate between lower, middle and high clouds



Best one to look at so far that I have found.

InQ

On 2024-04-06 12:26 p.m., ALbert wrote:

Attila,
It's not looking?good for Cornwall. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Albert


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

I thought it was using the current sky clock data. Ok. I'll have to do a deeper dive.
I've change the title and description of
<> to make
it more obvious that it's historical averages. I figure if it confused
you, it's confusing a lot of people. Thanks for pointing that out.

-ad


Re: Cornwall sky clock not looking good for the eclispe

 

You are right. My mistake. Peterborough will see only a partial
eclipse. Ignore my comment about a sucker hole opening north of
Peterborough.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 1:25?PM PolyWogg <thepolyblog@...> wrote:

Not 100% positive, but I think the path of totality is way south of Peterborough. Those in the Peterborough Astronomy Association were looking at Belleville or Kingston...

On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 at 12:38, Attilla Danko <danko@...> wrote:

This is the current cloud forecast for eclipse time:
<>
Pick your spot: quebec, north of Peterborough, or Michigan.

But that map is forecasting 55hrs into the future. Later forecasts
will be more reliable. They get updated at 1pm,1am, 6am and 6pm. Don't
reuse that link in this post. Goto a clear sky chart and click on the
15h monday block in the cloud road.

-ad

ps. The clearing, north of Peterborogh, shown in the above link, is
sucker hole-like. I wouldn't trust it.


On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 12:26?PM ALbert <alboodie@...> wrote:

Attila,
It's not looking good for Cornwall. Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Albert