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I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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I also have those tubes and have used them with a Nikon 50mm f1.8. I use a Manfrotto be free tripod but I changed the supplied ball head for the x-pro head which gives a lot more control over camera movement, It pretty much gets into any position I want and is quite sturdy. ?I also purchased a Manfrotto monopod with a set of small tripod legs that it slots into, it also has a landscape and portrait mode on the head, the tripod legs have something called fluidity which adds resistance to the rotation of the monopod once inserted
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I have way more tripods than any sane person should. ?There are reasons for what I have. ?When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out). ?It made a world of difference. ?Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work. ?This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car. ?I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras. ?It can easily handle my 11x14 camera. ?I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera. ?The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
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If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses. ?This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s. ?This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod. ?It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
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On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail. ?I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new” 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro. ?I believe this includes info on the DOF. ?With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Most of my current subjects as I explore this are outside in full sun. A ring flash down the road for sure. The focus rail or slider I can see as a needed item as adjusting/moving the tripod an inch or less to get the ability to focus can be a challenge.
Jon
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 14:48 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail.? I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new” 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro.? I believe this includes info on the DOF.? With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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Zane
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There is always the option of using a softer light [natural] by using a reflector. A small one clipped to a tripod or propped up or even hand held by an assistant.? Softer
light can be pleasing to the eye. ..... just a [cheaper] thought!
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Similar to this -
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All the best
Bob
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From: Zane Healy
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Subject: Re: [Nikon-DSLR] Tripods and/or attachments for Macro work
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Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail. ?I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new”
105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro. ?I believe this includes info on the DOF.
?With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
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In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy <healyzh@...> wrote:
I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when
my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be
put at basically any angle.
Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with.
Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera
Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced
he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily
in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type
of photography.
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
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I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with.
Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what
I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
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I have a rather nice one of those reflectors that I’ve basically never used. ?I need to really give it a try, especially for portrait work, which is why I bought it.
Overall, I prefer “available light” photography. ?Which helps explain why I was in the woods, with rain and snow, and fighting to get decent photos. :-)
Zane
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 1:01 PM, RobO <R_Offer@...> wrote:
Zane ? There is always the option of using a softer light [natural] by using a reflector. A small one clipped to a tripod or propped up or even hand held by an assistant.? Softer light can be pleasing to the eye. ..... just a [cheaper] thought! ? Similar to this -? ? All the best Bob ? ? ? Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail. ?I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new” 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro. I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro. ?I believe this includes info on the DOF. ?With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote: ? In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.? ? On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me. Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex. Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ? If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail. Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote: ? I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.? While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option? My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with? Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
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I like hunting for subjects in the woods, so it seems like an interesting option for me. ?Though given my preference for “available light", I have to wonder how well I’d like it. :-) Still the Trilliums are starting to come out...
Zane
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Most of my current subjects as I explore this are outside in full sun. A ring flash down the road for sure. The focus rail or slider I can see as a needed item as adjusting/moving the tripod an inch or less to get the ability to focus can be a challenge.
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 14:48 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail.? I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new” 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro.? I believe this includes info on the DOF.? With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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I just picked up a Nikkormat FT at an auction for $30. ($22 US). Have to see how well it works.
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On Apr 3, 2023, at 3:48 PM, Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote:
Based on Scott Ditzel’s comment in another thread, I suspect that both of us need to invest in a ring flash, and that would likely give better results than a focusing rail. ?I’m definitely curious about using a ring flash with my “new” 105mm f/2.8G VR Macro.
I’m not sure what modern books might give the information, but books like the old “Nikon F Nikkormat Handbook of Photography”, give a lot of info and tables for tubes, and other devices for Macro. ?I believe this includes info on the DOF. ?With the transition to digital, I’ve not really seen that sort of info published anywhere, or perhaps I’m not looking in the right locations.
Zane
On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Thanks Zane. In researching more and after my recent experience with the macro tubes, I believe I need to invest in a focusing rail as my next step. I’m just amazed at the super shallow depth of field with the 50mm at f/16 with the 36mm tube.?
Jon On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 13:13 Zane Healy < healyzh@...> wrote: I have way more tripods than any sane person should.? There are reasons for what I have.? When I was first getting serious with a D300, I picked up the Gitzo G2220 cheap, as it was a display unit (I was looking at Manfrotto tripods when my wife pointed it out).? It made a world of difference.? Everything else has been purchased used, for a fraction of their value, except the Bogen which was given to me.
Gitzo G2220 — This one can’t handle a heavy camera/lens, as the legs start to spread, but it’s great for Macro work.? This was my first real tripod (as opposed to using a vintage travel tripod from my Mom’s Yashica 44LM). The legs can be put at basically any angle. Gitzo G340 — This is now my “general use” tripod, it’s a pain to pack, but I really love this tripod, it can handle just about anything I shoot with. Gitzo G410 — For 11x14 Camera Gitzo G1155T — For my Leica M10P
A little Bogen tripod for my Rolleiflex.
Majestic — No clue on the model, the guy I deal with the most at my favorite local camera store, happened to see me walking out of a competitors store with it, and commented that it could be used to hold up a small car.? I’m not convinced he was joking. It has a Majestic head on it, with a plate for Large Format cameras.? It can easily handle my 11x14 camera.? I’ve taken it out in the field with my 8x10, and that requires a baby stroller to move it and the camera.? The 11x14 can be moved easily in a wagon with the Gitzo G410. ?
If I’m using Tubes, I’m going to be using a focusing rail.
Another option I have, is to use my Nikon D800 on a 4x5 monorail camera, with G-Claron lenses.? This is the option I’m likely to go for extreme Macro’s.? This is actually why I’ve kept the Majestic tripod.? It’s a good base for this type of photography.
Zane
On Apr 1, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Jon < kd5sfa@...> wrote:
I have a set of Kenko extension tubes I have sort of dabbled with. Today I pulled them out to see what sort of impact they have with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4.? The 36mm extension makes a huge difference and I see the absolute need for a tripod due to the shallow depth of field and close distance to the subject.?
While my current tripod allows for the legs to be splayed out, it still may not be able to get down close enough to the subject.? I am thinking I may need an arm on a ball head with a second ball head for the camera to accommodate what I am trying to accomplish. Would replacing the current pan/tilt head with a ball head with an extension arm that has a ball head for the camera be a viable option?
My current tripod is a Slik 300 DX, while not a high dollar tripod it is much sturdier than many of the sub $100 tripods out there. What have others worked with?
Granted someday I’ll need to sink a chunk into one of the better tripods and ball heads.
Jon
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That’s one Nikon I’m not familiar with at all, am I correct that it only works with Pre-AI lenses? Hopefully the light seals are good, if not, I think Walt might have experience redoing seals on a camera. I prefer to run a short roll of film through a new camera, and I opt for B&W always, as I process that myself. If the shutter speeds are questionable, Kodak Portra will probably be the most forgiving.
Zane
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On Apr 5, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Hugh via groups.io <hcrymble@...> wrote:
I just picked up a Nikkormat FT at an auction for $30. ($22 US). Have to see how well it works.
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I’m pretty sure it’s old lenses only.
Thanks for the Kodak Portra tip. I’ll pick up a few rolls today. I also picked up up a Miranda F at the auction, which was the first camera I bought in high school. And I should test my Nikon and Leica as they have been unused for a while.
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On Apr 5, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Zane Healy <healyzh@...> wrote:
That’s one Nikon I’m not familiar with at all, am I correct that it only works with Pre-AI lenses? Hopefully the light seals are good, if not, I think Walt might have experience redoing seals on a camera. I prefer to run a short roll of film through a new camera, and I opt for B&W always, as I process that myself. If the shutter speeds are questionable, Kodak Portra will probably be the most forgiving.
Zane
On Apr 5, 2023, at 8:32 AM, Hugh via groups.io <hcrymble@...> wrote:
I just picked up a Nikkormat FT at an auction for $30. ($22 US). Have to see how well it works.
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