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Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses


 

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Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.
  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.
Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

?? /AnotherBob

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There is / was a guy in Michigan ?that converted these old lenses to work on on the digital Nikons.

I had ?two or three done.

I’ll see if I remember his name.

Hugh


On Apr 7, 2023, at 4:50 PM, Bob Morse <stilljustbob@...> wrote:

Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.?
  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.?
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.
Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

?? /AnotherBob

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Really all that needs to happen is to covert it to Ai. ?I have several that have been converted (and others that haven’t). ?My grandparents had my Pre-Ai 135mm f/2.8 converted when I bought my Nikon FM2 (used), back in 1986. ?The Pre-Ai lens I use the most is a 55mm f/3.5 Micro. ?Some of the Pre-Ai lenses are still quite good. ?Others aren’t. :-)

You might check to see if there is an adapter for Pre-Ai lenses for the Z6 (if ones needed). ?I’ve used a Pre-AI 50mm f/1.4 on my Leica M10-P using a Nikon adapter (the adapter works with anything up to a “G” lens).

I’m glad to hear you’re seeing success with the Minolta Rokkor lenses, that’s an adapter I’ll want when I finally get a Z body.

I’ve been having fun with M42 lenses on my M10-P, but would rather shoot them on a Z body. ?

Zane




On Apr 7, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Bob Morse <stilljustbob@...> wrote:

Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.?
  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.?
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.
Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

?? /AnotherBob

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To answer your question about the Df, it has the necessary coupling of the Pre-Ai F-mount lenses. ?It’s also worth noting that the Df has done very good at retaining its value.

As for mounting pre-Ai lenses on a mirrorless body. ?My main advice, is make sure that everything clears. ?I was able to get a Pre-Ai lens mounted on my D800, but it didn’t want to come off. ?If I remember correctly I had to remove the coupler to get it off.

Zane




On Apr 7, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Bob Morse <stilljustbob@...> wrote:

Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.?
  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.?
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.
Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

?? /AnotherBob

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John White did AI conversions for non-AI lenses https://aiconversions.com

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Walt

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Photography is a language more universal than words. Minor White

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Morse
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Nikon-DSLR] Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses

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Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.

  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.

Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

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?? /AnotherBob

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That’s the name. He did a good conversion.

Hugh

On Apr 7, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Walt <walt.polley@...> wrote:

John White did AI conversions for non-AI lenses

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Walt

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Photography is a language more universal than words. Minor White

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Morse
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Nikon-DSLR] Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses

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Consignment shops and yard sales have numerous 1970's Nikon film cameras with pre-AI lenses at nearly dumpster prices.? My understanding is that, of the digital Nikons, only the Df can safely mount these lenses.

  • What is different about the Df design that allows safe mounting?
  • Would pre-AI lenses safely mount onto a current mirrorless body, using an FTZ?? Assuming all manual settings.
  • ?I have successfully used my old Minolta Rokkor lenses on my Z6, with a MetaBones adapter. The results are obviously not a match for new equipment, but fun to see the results, and I do have a few "good at the time" Rokkor lenses.

Do any of you have experience with pre-AI lenses on a Df body or with adapters?

?

?? /AnotherBob

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On Apr 7, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Walt <walt.polley@...> wrote:

John White did AI conversions for non-AI lenses?
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Walt

Once again, you’re trying to convince me to get a Z-body. :-)


Based on this table, you don’t need to have them converted, you can just use the FTZ adapter.

Zane





 

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Thank you Walt, and all other who responded so quickly. I've not yet tried to contact John White, but his site is full of good information.

? /AnotherBob

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Walt <walt.polley@...>
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 5:27 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nikon-DSLR] Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses
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John White did AI conversions for non-AI lenses https://aiconversions.com

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Walt

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Photography is a language more universal than words. Minor White

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