Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Joe, -Yes, gets easier, but takes time. -Many people (including myself) are just as bothered by the subsequent anxiety. If you have a lot of anxiety please do not hesitate to get it treated. -Accupuncture can be good for anxiety, and headaches caused by the visual change and eye strain, but it can’t do anything for the eye itself. -NAION has an association with hypertension and possibly with sleep apnea. Get checked for both if you can. Managing cardiovascular health is always important (heart attacks and strokes are much more common than NAION, so its worth doing just for that). ?Stay hydrated especially if you exercise. -If you are still within three weeks of onset it is possible that your vision will continue to change a bit. Keep seeing your neuro-opthalmologist especially if you have any further changes, or if you get severe headaches. -In addition to the effects on your affected eye (dead retinal ganglion/optic nerve cells), you may have other issues for a while with your eyes working together, or with your brain making sense of the new input. Here are some suggestions that made a difference for me: ? - If you wear glasses try to find a low vision optometrist. This is not a substitute for a neuro-opthalmologist, but they will have more insight into what works with vision correction, and more patience for trying different things. ?
- I got yellow/orange tinted sunglasses and used them for the first year. Somehow the enhanced contrast helped relax my eyes, or maybe it was just having a bit less light.
- I do have a large curved monitor, and I love it. My wife hates it though.
- I have to work hard (exercise) to maintain my body awareness on my right (bad) side, or I get clumsy. Anything that uses your whole body. Exercise nearly always improves my outlook.
? There are some things we are not supposed to do, but the evidence about their association with NAION is equivocal at best: ? - Avoid certain medications. Your doc will tell you which ones, but among them are PDE5 inhibitors (eg Viagra).
- Avoid high altitudes.
- If you have surgery tell the anesthesiologist about the NAION. You don’t want to have your BP go too low. ?
- Be careful with strenuous exercise until the swelling of your optic nerve head has resolved. This is usually ~6 weeks—your doc will tell you when the swelling has resolved. If you are a weightlifter you may really need to back off on intensity and weight. The point is to avoid suddenly raising your intraocular pressure or getting really dehydrated. Ask your doc about this.
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Tatarek Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 8:08 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [NAION] Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor ? Thank you and Sorry to hear that. ? Yes it does get easier. It will probably take up to 12 montbs but the brain does adapt. As for treatments and medication I personally would just try to carry on as normal and not to look for solutions for it can be an obsession. I have had mine in both eyes for 7 years and yes it Anne annoying but don’t let it rule you. You control it. Good luck ? I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago. I have a few questions.? 1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ? 2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.? 3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.? 4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.? ? On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake <jc.blake2@...> wrote: Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better? ? I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less It was $129, when I bought it. It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning .. It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful? My $0.02 Links in the message (1) |  Robot or human?
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Thank you and Sorry to hear that.
Yes it does get easier. It will probably take up to 12 montbs but the brain does adapt. As for treatments and medication I personally would just try to carry on as normal and not to look for solutions for it can be an obsession. I have had mine in both eyes
for 7 years and yes it Anne annoying but don’t let it rule you. You control it. Good luck
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I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago. I have a few questions.?
1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ?
2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.?
3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.?
4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.?
Thank you
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake < jc.blake2@...> wrote:
Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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FYI .. you can always get, a supplemental monitor .. keep in car trunk ..
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 07:56:14 AM EST, Russ Poter via groups.io <russpoter@...> wrote:
My $0.02 .. if a laptop .. look for unit, that is best, in screen size & wt .. in college, I had a 17 inch laptop .. lot of lifting.? And today, might be needed, for NAION.
16 inch OK
15 inch OK
14 .. kind of small, IMHO
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 02:11:42 AM EST, Chiarina Blake <jc.blake2@...> wrote:
Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Yes it does get easier. It will probably take up to 12 montbs but the brain does adapt. As for treatments and medication I personally would just try to carry on as normal and not to look for solutions for it can be an obsession. I have had mine in both eyes
for 7 years and yes it Anne annoying but don’t let it rule you. You control it. Good luck
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On 12 Dec 2022, at 10:23, Joe Tatarek <Joetatarek@...> wrote:
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I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago. I have a few questions.?
1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ?
2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.?
3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.?
4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.?
Thank you
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake < jc.blake2@...> wrote:
Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: [1] Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Book that many of us have read .. most famous NAION patient in USA .. a book about loss, aging .. and coping ..
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 05:23:27 AM EST, Joe Tatarek <joetatarek@...> wrote:
I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago. I have a few questions.?
1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ? 2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.? 3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.? 4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.?
Thank you
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake < jc.blake2@...> wrote: Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
My $0.02 .. if a laptop .. look for unit, that is best, in screen size & wt .. in college, I had a 17 inch laptop .. lot of lifting.? And today, might be needed, for NAION.
16 inch OK
15 inch OK
14 .. kind of small, IMHO
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 02:11:42 AM EST, Chiarina Blake <jc.blake2@...> wrote:
Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 05:23:27 AM EST, Joe Tatarek <joetatarek@...> wrote:
I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago.?
DID YOU GO TO E.R., STAT? WERE YOU GIVEN STEROIDS, TO EASE PAIN?
I have a few questions.?
1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ?
>> Yes. In time .. your brain will neurologically "adjust" to vision gaps.? First few months, I bumped into everything (left eye, 40% vision loss)
2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.?
>> No.
3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.?
>> You need to have GOOD HEALTH.? There is a 20% chance of a second NAION attack, within five years.? You must do everything possible, to be in GOOD HEALTH -- light work, good diet, walk, ride bike .. positive mental attitude.? The odds are with you.
4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.?
>> Walk daily. Ride bike. Do things that make you happy.? Live.
Thank you
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake < jc.blake2@...> wrote: Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
I am new to this. Just had this happen 3 weeks ago. I have a few questions.?
1.? Does it get easier to deal and cope with. I find myself exhausted at the end of the day because of the amount of focus I have to put into life. If that makes sense? ? 2.? Has anyone tried and has had positive results with acupuncture.? 3.? Any ideas on what to do to promote health in good eye. I am doing a lot of cardiovascular related exercise etc.? 4.? Does anyone know of any exercises or therapy that can be done with NAION to help.?
Thank you
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:11 AM Chiarina Blake < jc.blake2@...> wrote: Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Thank you. I am getting a Lap Top. Do you have any suggestions for a machine that suits us?better?
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Re: Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
Thanks Russ!!? I was considering a curved monitor... you may have just pushed me over the edge to do it!!? Thanks again for the insight!
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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Something that may (or may not) help -- a "curved" computer monitor
I just tried it .. so far, less tiring on NAION eye .. something to do with curvature, eye has to "strain" less
It was $129, when I bought it.
It helps sometimes .. sometimes not. Depends on how much NAION damage, lighting, positioning ..
It is designed for "gamers" .. others find helpful.? My $0.02
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WALL STREET JOURNAL: Elon Musk & optical neuro-science
" ..? The company wants to help restore vision and enable people with severe disabilities to move and communicate by decoding brain activity."
IMHO .. this is not a bunch of crazy Europeans, selling Hollywood on "herbs" .. this is very hard science ..
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From my NO in response to my question about not using decongestants, for what it's worth...
Hi Ms Roberta! Decongestants are considered pretty safe medication and is not reported to have a role in causing NAION.? The most common cause of NAION is chronic damage to blood vessels from conditions such as high blood pressure (Hypertension), high blood sugar (diabetes mellitus), high cholesterol, and obstructive sleep apnea. Other less common contributing factors could include low blood / iron counts (anemia) and certain medications which can decrease blood flow to the eye such as Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra. A medication for heart rhythm called Amiodarone can cause a similar picture, as well as other medications such as Ethambutol which is an antibiotic for Tuberculosis (TB) or other infections.? You should avoid any of the potentially causative medications above.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:15 PM Wuensch, Karl Louis < WUENSCHK@...> wrote:
????????? If the problem is congestion, rather than a drippy nose, antihistamines could just make it worse by drying the nose out.? Rather than a neti pot, I have an attachment
for my waterpik that allows me to blow isotonic saline up my nose.? I make my own saline.? I also use intranasal steroids, but my nose if often too congested for them to get up far enough, so I use a nasal spray to open up one nostril and then hit it with
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East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
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Cool.? Do you use a neti pot?
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One thing you do is wash out your nose.? I use NeilMed sinus rinse.
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I did some Googling and believe it to be true, so then the option is antihistamines?? Also read about the differences between the two.? I've learned a lot today...
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:48 PM Wuensch, Karl Louis <WUENSCHK@...> wrote:
????????? I think it is true that all drugs effective as decongestants are vasoconstrictors.?
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East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
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Are all decongestants vasoconstrictors? Honestly have no idea.??
My NO's have always instructed -no vasoconstrictors.?
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 4:36 PM Bobbie James <rrjames61@...> wrote:
Wondering where you got that advice.? My NO has never said I can't take a decongestant.?
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You can not take decongestants.
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Subject: [NAION] Flu and NAION
Hi all,
I started with flu-like symptoms today, including a low-grade fever. Any thoughts on what I can and cannot take for treatment? I was diagnosed with NAION in my right eye in May of 2021.
Thanks,
Joyce
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????????? Yes, polpys made my nose so congested that scented air could not reach the olfactory surface, rendering me anosmic.
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East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
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Chiarina Blake via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 7:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NAION] Aspirin
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Hi there.? My husband has a nasal Polyp. Were they causing? you problems?? He has not been recommended?surgery.? Thank you for this information as we did not know this.?
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:36 AM Wuensch, Karl Louis <WUENSCHK@...> wrote:
????????? I avoid aspirin because it may increase the growth of nasal polyps, and I have already had two surgeries to remove polyps.? Instead of aspirin, I take Plavix.
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Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept. of Psychology
East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
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I've read that taking an aspirin or even 1/2 of one daily can cause ear ringing.? And I have been told by ophthalmologists? to take an aspirin daily.
Diane Keasler
Life is the school, love is the lesson.
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:49:16 AM EST, Bobbie James <rrjames61@...> wrote:
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On 11/28/2022 10:10 PM, Medi Far wrote:
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Hi there.? My husband has a nasal Polyp. Were they causing? you problems?? He has not been recommended?surgery.? Thank you for this information as we did not know this.?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:36 AM Wuensch, Karl Louis < WUENSCHK@...> wrote:
????????? I avoid aspirin because it may increase the growth of nasal polyps, and I have already had two surgeries to remove polyps.? Instead of aspirin, I take Plavix.
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Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept. of Psychology
East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
Voice:? 252-328-9420???? Fax:? 252-328-6283
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I've read that taking an aspirin or even 1/2 of one daily can cause ear ringing.? And I have been told by ophthalmologists? to take an aspirin daily.
Diane Keasler
Life is the school, love is the lesson.
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:49:16 AM EST, Bobbie James <rrjames61@...> wrote:
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On 11/28/2022 10:10 PM, Medi Far wrote:
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Thanks for the advice everyone. Yesterday was very rough, but I’m doing better today. No ringing in the ears. Just a sore throat, cough and slight headache left.?
Joyce
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????????? I avoid aspirin because it may increase the growth of nasal polyps, and I have already had two surgeries to remove polyps.? Instead of aspirin, I take Plavix.
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Karl L. Wuensch, Professor and ECU Scholar/Teacher, Dept. of Psychology
East Carolina University, Greenville NC? 27858-4353, USA,?
Voice:? 252-328-9420???? Fax:? 252-328-6283
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of
Diane Keasler via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NAION] Flu and NAION
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I've read that taking an aspirin or even 1/2 of one daily can cause ear ringing.? And I have been told by ophthalmologists? to take an aspirin daily.
Diane Keasler
Life is the school, love is the lesson.
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:49:16 AM EST, Bobbie James <rrjames61@...> wrote:
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On 11/28/2022 10:10 PM, Medi Far wrote:
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Do you have ear ringing too?
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My ear ringing actually started before I had NAION (and started taking aspirin?daily).
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:52 AM Diane Keasler via <dlkeasler= [email protected]> wrote: I've read that taking an aspirin or even 1/2 of one daily can cause ear ringing.? And I have been told by ophthalmologists? to take an aspirin daily.
Diane Keasler
Life is the school, love is the lesson.
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:49:16 AM EST, Bobbie James < rrjames61@...> wrote:
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On 11/28/2022 10:10 PM, Medi Far wrote:
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Do you have ear ringing too?
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I've read that taking an aspirin or even 1/2 of one daily can cause ear ringing.? And I have been told by ophthalmologists? to take an aspirin daily.
Diane Keasler
Life is the school, love is the lesson.
On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:49:16 AM EST, Bobbie James <rrjames61@...> wrote:
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On 11/28/2022 10:10 PM, Medi Far wrote:
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