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Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules

 

I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts?
on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.
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Thanks for the great logging program.
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Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for your e-mail.? Guys are understandably very protective of preserving 12 and 17 from the increased activity that contesting brings.? Being a year long event based on normal operating, the WAS / Counties QSO Party would not have had an impact on that, so when we proposed the initial rules years ago, we included 12 and 17.? Still, enough concern was expressed, so we removed those bands.

Thanks for your interest!

Enjoy!

73, Scott
N3FJP


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On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 11:57:26 PM EST, Brian D. Warner via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:


I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts?
on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.
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Thanks for the great logging program.
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Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ
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Hey Brian.? Just a wild guess (WAG) but it’s probably because most contests do not include the WARC bands.? I’m probably wrong and I’m sure someone will correct me.

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Regards,

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Pat – KZ5J

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian D. Warner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules

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I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts?

on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.

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Thanks for the great logging program.

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Brian D. Warner

WB0NWZ

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Correct: 30, 17, and 12 are never used for contests.

Larry / W1DYJ



On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 08:46:17 AM EST, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:


Hey Brian.? Just a wild guess (WAG) but it’s probably because most contests do not include the WARC bands.? I’m probably wrong and I’m sure someone will correct me.

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Regards,

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Pat – KZ5J

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian D. Warner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules

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I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts?

on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.

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Thanks for the great logging program.

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Brian D. Warner

WB0NWZ

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When WARC bands were introduced, it was decided to exclude them from contesting due to the small bandwidth of each of those bands (12, 17, 30 meters)

More here?


73
Dave wo2x
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Nov 27, 2024, at 8:46?AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:

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Hey Brian.? Just a wild guess (WAG) but it’s probably because most contests do not include the WARC bands.? I’m probably wrong and I’m sure someone will correct me.

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Regards,

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Pat – KZ5J

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian D. Warner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules

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I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts?

on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.

?

Thanks for the great logging program.

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Brian D. Warner

WB0NWZ

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There is a lot of activity by MARAC , the County Hunters, in the WARC bands.?
County Hunting is not contesting. QSO parties are but not hunting.
K5TIA
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From: Dave wo2x via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules
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When WARC bands were introduced, it was decided to exclude them from contesting due to the small bandwidth of each of those bands (12, 17, 30 meters)
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More here
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73
Dave wo2x
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.

On Nov 27, 2024, at 8:46?AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:

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Hey Brian.? Just a wild guess (WAG) but it’s probably because most contests do not include the WARC bands.? I’m probably wrong and I’m sure someone will correct me.

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Regards,

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Pat – KZ5J

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian D. Warner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules

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I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts

on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.

?

Thanks for the great logging program.

?

Brian D. Warner

WB0NWZ

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Hi Scott,

Thanks for the background info. Given the limited frequency space of the two bands, I understand why doing something that might overtax them is a concern.

There are plenty of other options, more than enough for me.

Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ

On 11/27/2024 03:30, Scott Davis via groups.io wrote:
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your e-mail.? Guys are understandably very protective of preserving 12 and 17 from the increased activity that contesting brings.? Being a year long event based on normal operating, the WAS / Counties QSO Party would not have had an impact on that, so when we proposed the initial rules years ago, we included 12 and 17.? Still, enough concern was expressed, so we removed those bands.
Thanks for your interest!
Enjoy!
73, Scott
N3FJP
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On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 11:57:26 PM EST, Brian D. Warner via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:
I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts
on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.
Thanks for the great logging program.
Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ

 

Hi Pat,

"Google it" should be the first reply to almost any question, including the person who's going to ask the question of others. From the Wikipedia article on WARC bands:

"...Due to their relatively small bandwidth of 100 kHz or less, there is a gentlemen's agreement that the WARC bands may not be used for general contesting. This agreement has been codified in official recommendations, such as the IARU Region 1 HF Manager's Handbook, which states: "Contest activity shall not take place on the 5, 10, 18, and 24 MHz bands."[3]

Non-contesting radio amateurs are recommended to use the contest-free HF bands (30, 17, and 12m) during the largest international contests.[4]"

So, they have provided an oasis for those of us who aren't into contests or are satisfied with only peripheral participation.

Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ

On 11/27/2024 06:46, Pat Whelton via groups.io wrote:
Hey Brian.? Just a wild guess (WAG) but it’s probably because most contests do not include the WARC bands.? I’m probably wrong and I’m sure someone will correct me.
Regards,
Pat – KZ5J
*From:*[email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Brian D. Warner via groups.io
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:57 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Worked All States / Counties QSO Party Rules
I'm just curious about why the 12 and 17 meter bands are excluded. I've been getting a number of contacts
on 17 meters and would like to have those count. If not, then I'll need to step on the other bands.
Thanks for the great logging program.
Brian D. Warner
WB0NWZ

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