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If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
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John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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To be precise, the Centralia model is of a 3400 series C&NW coach. However, some of these were converted to lounge cars and run on UP streamliner trains.
On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 7:38 PM John Perkowski via <johnwperkowski= [email protected]> wrote: If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
--
John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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Thanks for the info, Dallan. Do you know when the conversion to lounges took place and what UP trains they would have ran on? LA Limited?
On Sunday, August 7, 2022, 10:27 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: To be precise, the Centralia model is of a 3400 series C&NW coach. However, some of these were converted to lounge cars and run on UP streamliner trains. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 7:38 PM John Perkowski via <johnwperkowski= [email protected]> wrote: If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
--
John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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Hi Otto,
Here's what I think I know. Four C&NW "400" coach cars were remodeled in 1947 into coach-lounge-smoker cars for Streamliner service. These were cars 3416 and 3418-3420. There are partial pictures of the interiors in Rank and Kratville's?Union Pacific Streamliners book, pgs 308 and 310. Unfortunately?no floorplan diagrams. The exteriors were not modified from the original cars. I think these cars were equipped?with a roof antenna which ran 3/4 the length of the car. I believe the cars were only painted in yellow/gray (no two-tone gray, at least I've never seen a picture) with "CHICAGO AND NORTHWESTERN" in the letterboard, the word "Streamliner" below the window line in the middle and the car number at both ends.? I know they were used extensively on the?Los?Angeles Limited as a lounge for the coach section of the train, as I have pictures and video of them being used as such. As for the "CITY" trains, not really sure. Centralia did these cars a few years ago in yellow/gray.
Regards,
Dallan
Thanks for the info, Dallan. Do you know when the conversion to lounges took place and what UP trains they would have ran on? LA Limited? Otto On Sunday, August 7, 2022, 10:27 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: To be precise, the Centralia model is of a 3400 series C&NW coach. However, some of these were converted to lounge cars and run on UP streamliner trains. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 7:38 PM John Perkowski via <johnwperkowski= [email protected]> wrote: If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
--
John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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Thanks for confirming that, Dallan. I have that Centralia car in my circa 1949 LA Limited consist, along with a heavyweight 12-1?serving as a dormitory, couple of LW?coaches, a diner and five?Pullmans, including a Pennsy in??Tuscan and?NYC in?TTG from New York,?and a heavy CNW from Minneapolis. Still need to cobble up the Club-Lounge for first class patrons...any ideas?
On Monday, August 8, 2022, 4:52 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: Hi Otto,
Here's what I think I know. Four C&NW "400" coach cars were remodeled in 1947 into coach-lounge-smoker cars for Streamliner service. These were cars 3416 and 3418-3420. There are partial pictures of the interiors in Rank and Kratville's?Union Pacific Streamliners book, pgs 308 and 310. Unfortunately?no floorplan diagrams. The exteriors were not modified from the original cars. I think these cars were equipped?with a roof antenna which ran 3/4 the length of the car. I believe the cars were only painted in yellow/gray (no two-tone gray, at least I've never seen a picture) with "CHICAGO AND NORTHWESTERN" in the letterboard, the word "Streamliner" below the window line in the middle and the car number at both ends.? I know they were used extensively on the?Los?Angeles Limited as a lounge for the coach section of the train, as I have pictures and video of them being used as such. As for the "CITY" trains, not really sure. Centralia did these cars a few years ago in yellow/gray.
Regards,
Dallan
Thanks for the info, Dallan. Do you know when the conversion to lounges took place and what UP trains they would have ran on? LA Limited? Otto On Sunday, August 7, 2022, 10:27 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: To be precise, the Centralia model is of a 3400 series C&NW coach. However, some of these were converted to lounge cars and run on UP streamliner trains. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 7:38 PM John Perkowski via <johnwperkowski= [email protected]> wrote: If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
--
John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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Otto,
Sounds a lot like my early 50's LALtd.? John was correct that some pre-war UP coaches?were converted to club-lounge?cars, but this was done with the 5200 series cars. I did the same for my LALtd. Brass Car Sides made some 5200 series car sides a number of years ago and I made a club-lounge out of one. It's number 1518 and I use it in my sleeper section. The trucks were the tricky part. I assembled a master and then made a mold.? The only other lounge cars used for first class passengers on the LALtd would have been the C&NW?2790 series HW Club-Dorms, a UP 1540 series HW club-dorm car or one of the three 1550 series HW club-lounge?cars.? Also, there were some 1580 series Lounge cars (with Harriman roofs) that were converted from chair cars for the Challenger (which was cancelled in 1948, I think). They were available in that time frame.?Can't think of?many others for that time period.
Regards,
Dallan
Thanks for confirming that, Dallan. I have that Centralia car in my circa 1949 LA Limited consist, along with a heavyweight 12-1?serving as a dormitory, couple of LW?coaches, a diner and five?Pullmans, including a Pennsy in??Tuscan and?NYC in?TTG from New York,?and a heavy CNW from Minneapolis. Still need to cobble up the Club-Lounge for first class patrons...any ideas? Thanks again, Otto On Monday, August 8, 2022, 4:52 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: Hi Otto,
Here's what I think I know. Four C&NW "400" coach cars were remodeled in 1947 into coach-lounge-smoker cars for Streamliner service. These were cars 3416 and 3418-3420. There are partial pictures of the interiors in Rank and Kratville's?Union Pacific Streamliners book, pgs 308 and 310. Unfortunately?no floorplan diagrams. The exteriors were not modified from the original cars. I think these cars were equipped?with a roof antenna which ran 3/4 the length of the car. I believe the cars were only painted in yellow/gray (no two-tone gray, at least I've never seen a picture) with "CHICAGO AND NORTHWESTERN" in the letterboard, the word "Streamliner" below the window line in the middle and the car number at both ends.? I know they were used extensively on the?Los?Angeles Limited as a lounge for the coach section of the train, as I have pictures and video of them being used as such. As for the "CITY" trains, not really sure. Centralia did these cars a few years ago in yellow/gray.
Regards,
Dallan
Thanks for the info, Dallan. Do you know when the conversion to lounges took place and what UP trains they would have ran on? LA Limited? Otto On Sunday, August 7, 2022, 10:27 PM, dallanscale <Dallanschowe@...> wrote: To be precise, the Centralia model is of a 3400 series C&NW coach. However, some of these were converted to lounge cars and run on UP streamliner trains. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 7:38 PM John Perkowski via <johnwperkowski= [email protected]> wrote: If folks are looking to make a streamline lounge for the early postwar era, Centralia has your answer.?
Several 5300 class coaches were gutted in the main compartment and Nurses bedroom and turned into 1500 class club lounges.?
The link to the car at model train stuff is
The UP diagrams for comparison are below.?
--
John Perkowski
BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6
Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr
Parkville, MO
  
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An interior photo, almost certainly from UP, popped up.?  -- John Perkowski BNSF (CB&Q) MP 9.6 Along the route of the Pioneer Zephyr Parkville, MO
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