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Thank you for allowing me to post on here, I have been getting my workshop gathered together for a couple of years, now being retired and having spent 50 years working away from home in the tunneling industry. I acquired this mill a couple of years ago from a guy going CNC, I have not been able to locate any 'words and music' as was it LBSC used to say? I am also on the lookout for an overarm arbour support bracket? Anybody out there with any ideas? I have tried contacting the Italian manufacturers (Made 1971) as a google search brings up very little, an odd 3US, presumably just a smaller version but they made a lot of plain millers that probably used the same overarm.
Regards
Mike
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Sorry to say this is the first sign of life I've seen here since I joined in the middle of October last year !
It looks an interesting mill ! I'm not sure what anyone else (is there anyone else on this group????) has.
Where are you ?
A couple of sites that may be worth a look: and . The latter may be able to sell you an expensive manual, the first one may have a downloadable manual.
Mike.
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This group is just slightly less dead than your website !
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There are a couple or three of us, anyway.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, 02:35:22 PM CST, pmailkeey via groups.io <pmailkeey@...> wrote:
Sorry to say this is the first sign of life I've seen here since I joined in the middle of October last year !
It looks an interesting mill ! I'm not sure what anyone else (is there anyone else on this group????) has.
Where are you ?
A couple of sites that may be worth a look: and . The latter may be able to sell you an expensive manual, the first one may have a downloadable manual.
Mike.
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make that 4.
My wife and I have sold off most of our tools in preparation for
moving last fall... except the border was closed and we can't get
there from here.? BTW, anyone in my area, we have a lot of smaller
bits we won't be taking with us, so if you're near 95032 contact me
for free or very cheap stuff.
Anyway, this place is sold and the buyers are renting it back to us
since we can't leave.? But, we will have to move soon as their
hospitality is wearing thin.
Our new place is essentially ready for us, the contractors are just
finishing up minor stuff and starting to clean the salts off the
bricks (heavy rain when they had the house half-built drove salts
out of the bricks).
Below is our new HEATED workshop on the right with it's mini-loading
dock.? A hoist is going in on a track mounted to the driveway roof.?
The area in front of the workshop is a flat, level (well, what
regular contractors consider level) work area.? Then the driveway to
the street.? I have 3 phase power in the shop waiting for our new
milling machine, I plan on a ZX-50C with DRO.
Upstairs on the left is the office, takes up about half the top
floor.
The insides are a bit empty as we haven't shipped our stuff yet.?
The bed is for the watchman who's enjoying our house and keeping the
place safe.? My wife and I will build out the kitchen, paint, and
install the floors ourselves, we like doing things like that.
On 2/10/21 2:38 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
There are a couple or three of us, anyway.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
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Jerry Durand, WhatsApp, Telegram, VK, Signal, Gab
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:03 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
ZX-50C
That's a toy one ;)
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What mill have you Bill ?
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????? is that a super long table , or is it just the picture ?
??? ??? animal
On 2/10/2021 11:22 AM, Mike Peace
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Thank you for allowing me to post on here, I have been getting my
workshop gathered together for a couple of years, now being
retired and having spent 50 years working away from home in the
tunneling industry. I acquired this mill a couple of years ago
from a guy going CNC, I have not been able to locate any 'words
and music' as was it LBSC used to say? I am also on the lookout
for an overarm arbour support bracket? Anybody out there with any
ideas? I have tried contacting the Italian manufacturers (Made
1971) as a google search brings up very little, an odd 3US,
presumably just a smaller version but they made a lot of plain
millers that probably used the same overarm.
Regards
Mike
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I’m #5, 71 yrs old here, trying to get the nerve to buy a small garage fitting mill. I have a 10” Logan lathe in the basement, which really needs a mill for doing the other half of most everything I turn.?
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On Feb 10, 2021, at 7:03 PM, Jerry Durand <jdurand@...> wrote:
?
make that 4.
My wife and I have sold off most of our tools in preparation for
moving last fall... except the border was closed and we can't get
there from here.? BTW, anyone in my area, we have a lot of smaller
bits we won't be taking with us, so if you're near 95032 contact me
for free or very cheap stuff.
Anyway, this place is sold and the buyers are renting it back to us
since we can't leave.? But, we will have to move soon as their
hospitality is wearing thin.
Our new place is essentially ready for us, the contractors are just
finishing up minor stuff and starting to clean the salts off the
bricks (heavy rain when they had the house half-built drove salts
out of the bricks).
Below is our new HEATED workshop on the right with it's mini-loading
dock.? A hoist is going in on a track mounted to the driveway roof.?
The area in front of the workshop is a flat, level (well, what
regular contractors consider level) work area.? Then the driveway to
the street.? I have 3 phase power in the shop waiting for our new
milling machine, I plan on a ZX-50C with DRO.
Upstairs on the left is the office, takes up about half the top
floor.
The insides are a bit empty as we haven't shipped our stuff yet.?
The bed is for the watchman who's enjoying our house and keeping the
place safe.? My wife and I will build out the kitchen, paint, and
install the floors ourselves, we like doing things like that.
On 2/10/21 2:38 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
There are a couple or three of us, anyway.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
--
Jerry Durand, WhatsApp, Telegram, VK, Signal, Gab
&
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??? ??? ??? VI
??? ??? animal
On 2/10/2021 4:35 PM, Eric Johnson via
groups.io wrote:
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I’m #5, 71 yrs old here, trying to get the nerve to buy a small
garage fitting mill. I have a 10” Logan lathe in the basement,
which really needs a mill for doing the other half of most
everything I turn.?
Eric
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make that 4.
My wife and I have sold off most of our tools in preparation
for moving last fall... except the border was closed and we
can't get there from here.? BTW, anyone in my area, we have
a lot of smaller bits we won't be taking with us, so if
you're near 95032 contact me for free or very cheap stuff.
Anyway, this place is sold and the buyers are renting it
back to us since we can't leave.? But, we will have to move
soon as their hospitality is wearing thin.
Our new place is essentially ready for us, the contractors
are just finishing up minor stuff and starting to clean the
salts off the bricks (heavy rain when they had the house
half-built drove salts out of the bricks).
Below is our new HEATED workshop on the right with it's
mini-loading dock.? A hoist is going in on a track mounted
to the driveway roof.? The area in front of the workshop is
a flat, level (well, what regular contractors consider
level) work area.? Then the driveway to the street.? I have
3 phase power in the shop waiting for our new milling
machine, I plan on a ZX-50C with DRO.
Upstairs on the left is the office, takes up about half the
top floor.
The insides are a bit empty as we haven't shipped our stuff
yet.? The bed is for the watchman who's enjoying our house
and keeping the place safe.? My wife and I will build out
the kitchen, paint, and install the floors ourselves, we
like doing things like that.
On 2/10/21 2:38 PM, Bill in OKC
too via groups.io wrote:
There are a couple or three of us, anyway.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
--
Jerry Durand, WhatsApp, Telegram, VK, Signal, Gab
&
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Bigger than the one I had here.? Bit heavier,
too.? depending on how much sand is still stuck inside the
housing, they weigh about 600 kg.? It should be fine for what we
do.
The bigger the boys, the bigger the toys.
On 2/10/21 5:01 PM, pmailkeey via
groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:03 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
ZX-50C
That's a toy one ;)
_
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Jerry Durand, WhatsApp, Telegram, VK, Signal, Gab
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That is good mill
I have experienced on old mills
On some mills I had to make parts or one even mill I put screw and nut for table.
Dave
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An Atlas MF horizontal mill, and a Harbor Freight mini-mill, wit a Smithy CB-1220XL 3-in-1 machine that will? eventually get delivered. Though I have gotten to use several Bridgeport clones in class. They're fun. :)
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021, 07:09:40 PM CST, pmailkeey via groups.io <pmailkeey@...> wrote:
What mill have you Bill ?
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Welcome to the club! ?Been here in the background. ?I have a Rockwell, 2 Barker mills, and a Tree. ?Used to be a Machinist working for N.A.R.F.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 02:23 AM, Bill in OKC too wrote:
An Atlas MF horizontal mill, and a Harbor Freight mini-mill, wit a Smithy CB-1220XL 3-in-1 machine that will? eventually get delivered. Though I have gotten to use several Bridgeport clones in class. They're fun. :)
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A pocket mill :) I'm in a really strange 'place' ! My Dad got a mill in the early 1990s and at the time we knew sod all about milling machines. "It was alright" In the last 6 months having seen a few YT videos of Abom79 and Keith Rucker and some others, while I can't brag on size of the mill, I can most certainly brag on features. For that, it seems to outdo everyone else's - so I'm not for swapping :)
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Glad to see some activity. Here in SoCal I have a late '50's BP J head, a 1951 Index 55, a three year old Tormach PCNC 1100 S3 and a 1948 Diamond B-12 Horizontal (smallish). All in a two car garage with some other tools (SB 13" lathe and SB 7" shaper). Obviously, no cars in the garage...
John
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Hi,
Thank you for the responses, I have not yet got the mill working.
Long story, been trying to get a workshop up and running for years, we moved house 2018, old steel frame cattle shed in the yard, got it all reclad with part concrete floor, built insulated 11m x 6m workshop in one corner, our house electrician then wired it
up properly, LED lighting, 7 x 32A 3 phase sockets all with accompanying double 240v run on basket trays back the distribution panel. Now the fun begins, 3ph from a 2nd hand 15kW rotary inverter bought 3 years ago.
I have a Holbrook C13 lathe, a Walter tool & Cutter grinder with all the toys plus rotary grinding attachment, the Simplon mill, a Brierly drill grinder, and new to me in the last month an Elliott 2m universal shaper(with a little auto downfeed anomaly I am
trying to resolve on the shaper group) plus an Arboga ER125S radial drill, oh and a large 12" pedestal grinder.
My electrician is a house guy, not a machine guy, all the dol stuff seemed to run ok but the walter grinder would run one or even all four motors but then trip out after a minute or so, and the mill appeared to have all sorts of problems, we could run the knee
motor fine, the 5.5kW motor would run eventually after a lot of button jabbing and contacter chatter, the 11kW horizontal motor tried to run but again just contacter chatter.
The plot then thickened, as normally just start the lathe motor running for a few mins to warm up, one day it just tripped everything out. I did not know did I have an issue with the inverter or the machines, I am an electrical heathen, worked all my life with
large tunnelling machines with up to 6mva in em, but I employed electricians to deal with it! where we live in Somerset in the UK is an Engineering desert! when I did finally find someone he was a business and his charges were astronomical for a retired guy
with a home shop!
6 weeks ago I was able to find a local electrician, he came along and we found the machines with control voltages need that wiring to L1 & L2 as the 3rd phase is sort of dummy from the inverter. So the grinder now works fine? the lathe turned out to be the
tails insulation now some 60 years old all cracked split, so motor from that has been rewound, just got that back.
The milling machine it appears has been a bit messed about in the panel, it has Siemens contacters in linked forward reverse pairs and the power overarm forward set of contacts burnt out, Siemens wanted ?900 for a modern replacement pair! my new found sparky
has sourced a replacement for ?50! just waiting for it to arrive, covid delays! so I hope we can get that up and running shortly!
rgds
Mike
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Glad to see some activity. Here in SoCal I have a late '50's BP J head, a 1951 Index 55, a three year old Tormach PCNC 1100 S3 and a 1948 Diamond B-12 Horizontal (smallish). All in a two car garage with some other tools (SB 13" lathe and SB 7" shaper).
Obviously, no cars in the garage...
John
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??? ??? well sounds like your on the right trolly , good luck
& be careful
??? ??? animal
On 2/12/2021 2:21 AM, Mike Peace wrote:
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Hi,
Thank you for the responses, I have not yet got the mill
working.
Long story, been trying to get a workshop up and running for
years, we moved house 2018, old steel frame cattle shed in the
yard, got it all reclad with part concrete floor, built
insulated 11m x 6m workshop in one corner, our house electrician
then wired it up properly, LED lighting, 7 x 32A 3 phase sockets
all with accompanying double 240v run on basket trays back the
distribution panel. Now the fun begins, 3ph from a 2nd hand 15kW
rotary inverter bought 3 years ago.
I have a Holbrook C13 lathe, a Walter tool & Cutter grinder
with all the toys plus rotary grinding attachment, the Simplon
mill, a Brierly drill grinder, and new to me in the last month
an Elliott 2m universal shaper(with a little auto downfeed
anomaly I am trying to resolve on the shaper group) plus an
Arboga ER125S radial drill, oh and a large 12" pedestal grinder.
My electrician is a house guy, not a machine guy, all the dol
stuff seemed to run ok but the walter grinder would run one or
even all four motors but then trip out after a minute or so, and
the mill appeared to have all sorts of problems, we could run
the knee motor fine, the 5.5kW motor would run eventually after
a lot of button jabbing and contacter chatter, the 11kW
horizontal motor tried to run but again just contacter chatter.
The plot then thickened, as normally just start the lathe motor
running for a few mins to warm up, one day it just tripped
everything out. I did not know did I have an issue with the
inverter or the machines, I am an electrical heathen, worked all
my life with large tunnelling machines with up to 6mva in em,
but I employed electricians to deal with it! where we live in
Somerset in the UK is an Engineering desert! when I did finally
find someone he was a business and his charges were astronomical
for a retired guy with a home shop!
6 weeks ago I was able to find a local electrician, he came
along and we found the machines with control voltages need that
wiring to L1 & L2 as the 3rd phase is sort of dummy from the
inverter. So the grinder now works fine? the lathe turned out
to be the tails insulation now some 60 years old all cracked
split, so motor from that has been rewound, just got that back.
The milling machine it appears has been a bit messed about in
the panel, it has Siemens contacters in linked forward reverse
pairs and the power overarm forward set of contacts burnt out,
Siemens wanted ?900 for a modern replacement pair! my new found
sparky has sourced a replacement for ?50! just waiting for it to
arrive, covid delays! so I hope we can get that up and running
shortly!
rgds
Mike
Glad to see some activity. Here in SoCal I have a late '50's
BP J head, a 1951 Index 55, a three year old Tormach PCNC 1100
S3 and a 1948 Diamond B-12 Horizontal (smallish). All in a two
car garage with some other tools (SB 13" lathe and SB 7"
shaper). Obviously, no cars in the garage...
John
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??? ??? That Diamond B-12 looks like a sweet machine !! . I would
love to have a small Horizontal , but their in competition for my
SSI
??? ??? animal
On 2/11/2021 8:43 PM, comstock_friend
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Glad to see some activity. Here in SoCal I have a late '50's BP J
head, a 1951 Index 55, a three year old Tormach PCNC 1100 S3 and a
1948 Diamond B-12 Horizontal (smallish). All in a two car garage
with some other tools (SB 13" lathe and SB 7" shaper). Obviously,
no cars in the garage...
John
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Hi Animal,
New to this group, are you responding to Mike?
If so not sure what you mean by Diamond B12?
I presume that you mean Dollars when you say SSI, or I need educating somewhat!
Rgds
Mike
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??? ??? That Diamond B-12 looks like a sweet machine !! . I would love to have a small Horizontal , but their in competition for my SSI
??? ??? animal
On 2/11/2021 8:43 PM, comstock_friend wrote:
Glad to see some activity. Here in SoCal I have a late '50's BP J head, a 1951 Index 55, a three year old Tormach PCNC 1100 S3 and a 1948 Diamond B-12 Horizontal (smallish). All in a two car garage with some other tools (SB 13" lathe
and SB 7" shaper). Obviously, no cars in the garage...
John
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Mike Peace
Bill in OKC too
Jerry Durand
davesmith1800