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Dismantling LDC to use capsules as ORTF in a blimp


 

ORTF is intended for small diaphragm?capsules. With large diaphragm?capsules the result may be a bit different.


Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 15:23 skrev pmfalcman via <pmfalcman=[email protected]>:

Depends how you choose to mount the boards. If there are no components on the other side and you mount them on the same surface as the capsules - say on the lid - it seems these wires should be long enough. But it depends also on stand offs you choose. You will determine it when putting it all together. There's no way to know beforehand. And from the photo alone ?


 

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ORTF works great with LDC’s infinite all the time. Especially with pattern adjustable dual output mics.?
Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Mar 22, 2025, at 11:11, Roger Gustavsson via groups.io <roger.krokavadet@...> wrote:

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ORTF is intended for small diaphragm?capsules. With large diaphragm?capsules the result may be a bit different.


Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 15:23 skrev pmfalcman via <pmfalcman=[email protected]>:
Depends how you choose to mount the boards. If there are no components on the other side and you mount them on the same surface as the capsules - say on the lid - it seems these wires should be long enough. But it depends also on stand offs you choose. You will determine it when putting it all together. There's no way to know beforehand. And from the photo alone ?


 

Le 22/03/2025 à 14:34, damiandrohanphoto via groups.io a écrit?:
1. Is it possible to use cardioid capsules in a SASS type array? I know the pickup pattern would be different. My plan would be to have the mics dismantled as with the example above. Has anyone tried it?
When you flush-mount cardioid capsules, they are no more cardioid, they are more or less omni.
But the tuning of cardioid and omni is different. The response may lack LF.
You might like it, or not.


 

Still, the off-axis response of large diameter capsules will show up in an ORTF setup.

Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 17:15 skrev Jules Ryckebusch via <ryckebusch=[email protected]>:

ORTF works great with LDC’s infinite all the time. Especially with pattern adjustable dual output mics.?
Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Mar 22, 2025, at 11:11, Roger Gustavsson via <roger.krokavadet=[email protected]> wrote:

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ORTF is intended for small diaphragm?capsules. With large diaphragm?capsules the result may be a bit different.


Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 15:23 skrev pmfalcman via <pmfalcman=[email protected]>:
Depends how you choose to mount the boards. If there are no components on the other side and you mount them on the same surface as the capsules - say on the lid - it seems these wires should be long enough. But it depends also on stand offs you choose. You will determine it when putting it all together. There's no way to know beforehand. And from the photo alone ?


 

ways of s?


On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 12:06 PM, Roger Gustavsson via groups.io
<roger.krokavadet@...> wrote: chu b
Still, the as hoff-axis response of large diameeuter capsules will show up in an ORTF setup.

Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 17:15 skrev Jules Ryckebusch w2h0 w2h0via w2h0via as zvia <rychoOo 9 936-661-6969kebusch=[email protected]>:
ORTF works great with LDC’s infinite all the time. Especially with pattern adjustable dual output mics.?
Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Mar 22, 2025, at 11:11, Roger Gustavsson via <roger.krokavadet=[email protected]> wrote:

?
ORTF is intended for small diaphragm?capsules. With large diaphragm?capsules the result may be a bit different.


Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 15:23 skrev pmfalcman via <pmfalcman=[email protected]>:
Depends how you choose to mount the boards. If there are no components on the other side and you mount them on the same surface as the capsules - say on the lid - it seems these wires should be long enough. But it depends also on stand offs you choose. You will determine it when putting it all together. There's no way to know beforehand. And from the photo alone ?


 

MEant to include this in my email. ORTF does rely on the pattern of the microphone. With that?being said being able to change that in post really makes this technique shine.

On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 12:37?PM John Thaden via <jjthaden=[email protected]> wrote:
ways of s?


On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 12:06 PM, Roger Gustavsson via
<roger.krokavadet=[email protected]> wrote: chu b
Still, the as hoff-axis response of large diameeuter capsules will show up in an ORTF setup.

Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 17:15 skrev Jules Ryckebusch w2h0 w2h0via w2h0via as zvia <rychoOo 9 936-661-6969kebusch=[email protected]>:
ORTF works great with LDC’s infinite all the time. Especially with pattern adjustable dual output mics.?
Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Mar 22, 2025, at 11:11, Roger Gustavsson via <roger.krokavadet=[email protected]> wrote:

?
ORTF is intended for small diaphragm?capsules. With large diaphragm?capsules the result may be a bit different.


Den l?r 22 mars 2025 kl 15:23 skrev pmfalcman via <pmfalcman=[email protected]>:
Depends how you choose to mount the boards. If there are no components on the other side and you mount them on the same surface as the capsules - say on the lid - it seems these wires should be long enough. But it depends also on stand offs you choose. You will determine it when putting it all together. There's no way to know beforehand. And from the photo alone ?



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Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch

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Thanks for all the replies
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@Jules- thanks for the paper, interesting reading, and thanks for confirming about LDC ORTF
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I will probably forego dismantling the smaller mics, and use them more traditionally, I was getting a little ahead of myself, I have several pairs of micbooster clippys I can use in SASS or Olson half-sphere rigs.?
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I know there are some shortcomings in using LDC for ORTF but I figure it's worth a go
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cheers
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Damian