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Cardioid capsule with flat response? Primo EM204 or better alternatives?


 

Hi all again! :-)

I was looking for a Unidirectional / Cardioid capsule for a DIY mic like Primo?EM204 or EM200 with the latest frequency response. Seems EM204 has a slightly better flat response.

Any advice or alternatives that I can get from Europe? Micbooster is an option but as they are "out" of the EU also I will get a nice charge for customs fees...

Can somebody explain to me what is the "dotted" lines on the frequency response?


 

Dotted graph looks like a frequency response of the back side of the capsule.


 

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Yea, that dotted line is the 180 off axis response?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 07:10, ilya dontsov <ilya.dontsov@...> wrote:

?Dotted graph looks like a frequency response of the back side of the capsule.


 

Ok, that have sense. Thanks again !

What about an alternative to Primo EM200/204? I was trying to find some cardioid capsule with such a flat response(or better) but didn't find anything

Cheers


 

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I like the EM-200 more than the 204. ?Check out the TSB2590. ?Is larger and sounds great. ?I’m not sure you will find a truly flat cardioid capsule.?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 07:55, a45porhora@... wrote:

?Ok, that have sense. Thanks again !

What about an alternative to Primo EM200/204? I was trying to find some cardioid capsule with such a flat response(or better) but didn't find anything

Cheers


 

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I’ve tried the?


Is like an EM-200 but better, cheaper too, the sound is brighter and the bass more controlled.?

Cheers!?

On 10 Jun 2022, at 17:07, Jules Ryckebusch <ryckebusch@...> wrote:

?I like the EM-200 more than the 204. ?Check out the TSB2590. ?Is larger and sounds great. ?I’m not sure you will find a truly flat cardioid capsule.?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 07:55, a45porhora@... wrote:

?Ok, that have sense. Thanks again !

What about an alternative to Primo EM200/204? I was trying to find some cardioid capsule with such a flat response(or better) but didn't find anything

Cheers


 

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I have some of those. Will be testing them in a side by side recording with the TSB2590 and an orchestra next Thursday?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 10:39, juliankaus via groups.io <juliankaus@...> wrote:

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I’ve tried the?


Is like an EM-200 but better, cheaper too, the sound is brighter and the bass more controlled.?

Cheers!?

On 10 Jun 2022, at 17:07, Jules Ryckebusch <ryckebusch@...> wrote:

?I like the EM-200 more than the 204. ?Check out the TSB2590. ?Is larger and sounds great. ?I’m not sure you will find a truly flat cardioid capsule.?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 07:55, a45porhora@... wrote:

?Ok, that have sense. Thanks again !

What about an alternative to Primo EM200/204? I was trying to find some cardioid capsule with such a flat response(or better) but didn't find anything

Cheers


 

That sounds good Jules! I will wait for that comparison

Also thanks to Julian for the JLI-160A advice. I see is built-in FET so I can make a simple P48, right?

any advice about this particular capsule when doing the Simple P48??

Regards


 

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Yes. The internal Fet is the same as the TSB2590 so a 100K will work for the resistor vale

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 10, 2022, at 13:27, a45porhora@... wrote:

?That sounds good Jules! I will wait for that comparison

Also thanks to Julian for the JLI-160A advice. I see is built-in FET so I can make a simple P48, right?

any advice about this particular capsule when doing the Simple P48??

Regards


 
Edited

As always, thanks to Jules and all to share and help others in this nice Group :)

?

I will try the?JLI-160A11UC680, but I don't see any info about the Noise Levels/self-noise. The primo EM200/204 is only 16db, Pretty good for that range of price

Does anyone here know that info or should I write directly to JLI? :)

Cheers


 

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They have a data sheet for it and it just lists S/N ratio as greater than 72db. ?I’m testing this head to head with the TSB2590 on Thursday. Will post results. Both are mounted in line on top
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Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Jun 12, 2022, at 17:10, a45porhora@... wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

As always, thanks to Jules and all to share and help others in this nice Group :)

?

I will try the?JLI-160A11UC680, but I don't see any info about the Noise Levels/self-noise. The primo EM200/204 is only 16db, Pretty good for that range of price

Does anyone here know that info or should I write directly to JLI? :)

Cheers