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Dual capsule k12 on one side and k47 on other side idea


 

Hi everyone,

I love the sonic differences in both capsules the k12 and k47. To me the k12 lows just seem fuller but the k47 has better highs. This is just from my experience of putting k12 capsule in a studio projects b3 and a k47 in another studio projects b3 mic.

Anyways I thought about it and wonder if anyone made a capsule that is dual but has a center terminated "k47" on one side and the other have an edge terminated "k12" on the other side? Sorry if I am getting terms incorrect.

The reason for this idea is that I love the sound of both. I would be able use the k47 on one side and then turn it around and use the k12 on another. I was thinking of having a switch that I can flip to change the capsule out or I can use a dual board with a 5 pin cable and a 2 way 3 pin spltter.

Any ideas on this? Could I take a dual capsule appart and then put a different piece in? Has anyone did this??

Thanks,
Jesse


 

Anyways I thought about it and wonder if anyone made a capsule that is dual but has a center
terminated "k47" on one side and the other have an edge terminated "k12" on the other side?
The rear side of every Braunmuhl-Weber style (dual diaphragm, large diameter) capsule, including the K47 and CK12 styles, is part of the sound of the front side. If you were to change the rear side of the CK-12 to anything else, the front wouldn¡¯t sound like a CK-12 any more. The same applies to the K47.?

As a practical matter, the K47 has a single backplate, so there¡¯s no "rear half" that could be removed and combined with something else. And of course the true CK-12 has a tunable inner backplate piece that sets the two chamber volumes. There is more to the sound of these than just the termination style.?

That¡¯s not to say someone couldn¡¯t engineer a mic with two distinctly voiced sides, of course.?

MXL had a mic that was promoted as a ¡°dual voice¡± design. It had a front/rear switch and an LED that indicated which side was active. The capsule was a 32mm K67, IIRC, with 6-micron film on one side and 8-micron on the other. I assume they were tuned differently. In my testing, the side described as ¡°warm¡± had an exaggerated 12kHz bump, +5.5dB, while the ¡°bright¡± side peaked at +6dB around 10kHz.

Find notes on that here:?

With in-circuit EQ, it¡¯s possible that mic would have been smoother and more usable, although I¡¯m not sure the two sides would have sounded different enough (after EQ) to justify the cost of the switch, LED, and the special capsule.?

The alternative is to have two mics that were both purpose-built to sound like whatever distinct sounds you¡¯d want. Hang them side by side, record both simultaneously, and then choose later which track to use. Yeah, that might cost more than one mic that does everything, but the benefit is that you only need one great performance, not two.

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matt.


 

Thank you Matt! This means a lot to me. This makes a lot of since as well. As I journey down the road of mics, I am finding out a bunch of new stuff! I been doing a lot of research of parts and such to build myself my own mic. Having 2 different mics would be the best option.

Best Regards,
Jesse


 

Matt, BTW are you the maker of the recordinghacks website? I use that website for every single mic look up! Its full over very useful info!


 

"The rear side of every Braunmuhl-Weber style (dual diaphragm, large diameter) capsule, including the K47 and CK12 styles, is part of the sound of the front side. If you were to change the rear side of the CK-12 to anything else, the front wouldn¡¯t sound like a CK-12 any more. The same applies to the K47. "
One of the consequences would be that the patterns that combine both capsules would not behave as expected, with lobes happenning where the capsules have different response. I'm not sure of the severity of the consequences, but it needs to be considered.