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I am curious if anyone knows of a good XY table that I can connect my Mach 4 and CNC box to. The situation is, I've always wanted to get in to CNC. I got into the retrofit of a little machine shop mini lathe with CNC and Mach 4 in order to learn. I used the tech shops design by Ron Ginger and another gentleman's who's name I not recall. I also have a 13x40 geared head lathe and a Bridgeport Mill. And no more room in my small little hobby shop. I have some projects that require large numbers of like pieces and in a lot of cases the cnc'd mini late doesn't have the power or I do not have the tooling for it. There are many times I thought having a small XY table mounted on my 13x40 lathe powered by my CNC box and Mach 4 would be quite beneficial. It is also something I could transfer over to the bridgeport. At this point I just can't see doing a full CNC install on either the 13x40 lathe or the Bridgeport Mill. I have considered an electronic lead screw on the lathe but I suspect that needs ball screws and it would not transfer over to the Bridgeport. And at this point I'd like to keep the lathe capable of doing one of projects. That is what I do most of it appears. Sorry for the long-winded message. Dale Grice

I just upgraded to R3.043.066 (from R2), I'm getting an error that says "radius at end of arc differs from radius to start, block =G02..." I downloaded the more recent R3 from Artsoft and the fix log shows nothing after R3.043.62. I can go back to R2 if need be, but I'm hoping I don't have to. This code runs under R2. Code generator was RhinoCAM 2017. I'm running under win XP SP 3 since my computers with an LPT1 port with not support anything higher. I'm seeing this error with every piece of code I have tested so far, all of which ran under R2 without issues. Here is a snippet of the code (bold line is the one that crashes) G00 G49 G40.1 G17 G80 G50 G90 G20 (Setup 1) (Work Zero) (2 1/2 Axis Profiling) M6 T2 M03 S20000 G00 Z1.0466 X1.3373 Y-0.0609 G01 Z-0.1515 F120.0 X1.1529 Y-0.0778 X0.9299 Y-0.0944 X0.7066 Y-0.1074 X0.4832 Y-0.1169 X0.2596 Y-0.1227 X0.1105 Y-0.1246 X-0.1106 X-0.3484 Y-0.1208 X-0.5861 Y-0.1130 X-0.8236 Y-0.1011 X-1.0609 Y-0.0851 X-1.2979 Y-0.0651 X-1.5346 Y-0.0410 X-1.7707 Y-0.0129 X-2.0064 Y0.0192 X-2.2415 Y0.0553 G17 G02X-7.7519Y4.4694I0.9620J6.8475 X-7.4781Y9.3650I5.8485J2.1283 X-6.1583Y11.1056I6.2570J-3.3735 G01 X-5.9731 Y11.2914 G03X-5.4021Y11.9392I-5.5788J5.4928

I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an external switch. I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the router computer, only the house computer. here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4 P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61 Z .3 just in case) G1 F93 X2.1003 Y0.5649 and a larger part of the context here M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH) G1 F65 Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75 Z 0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4 P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61 Z .3 just in case) G1 F93 X2.1003 Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1 (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com http://www.poodlex.com (425) 791-0309

when you boot mach4, the value in the increment field in the jog window does not necessarily have anything to do with what the selected step really is. running it up or down usually gets it right but on at least one occasion it didn't, had to reboot. also the move does not necessarily match the displayed increment exactly but it might be that it is in continuous mode even though it says incremental? i did not pay enough attention to this which only happened a couple of times to really know what was going on. i am sure about the increment not matching at startup. i mentioned this in a previous email but i have now proven that with mach4 and ESS there are moves that are combined when they are very separate events and i even tried faking it with dwells and with redundant moves. it seems that ESS is being too smart about efficiency of motion and smoothness. something is also creating the exact opposite effect. if i do the moves separately all is fine. if mach4/ESS does combine the move it not only does this when it shouldn't but it makes the motion choppy. i need to check but i am sure i have the same max speeds and accelerations and have tried the moves as G0 and G1 i thought something was wrong with my machine because i listen very carefully to all the noise (through hearing protection) and flinch and am ready to hit estop is something sounds a little different (not in a good way, it sounds sort of like grinding and nothing is grinding, i know that for a fact). i know for an absolute fact that the noise of moving x and y separately is quieter than doing both at the same time. -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com http://www.poodlex.com (425) 791-0309

Brain Does mach 4 support G code while loop's in the hobby version, ? or at all Tried them but get message not licensed for this.. Thanks gary

I've changed the subject line so I can rant and everyone else can click on delete. SoapboxBode := TRUE; I've had a P: drive pointing to C:/Projects on my workstation for more than 20 years. I also use Schematic and PCB layout software Protel 99SE which was superseded by Altium. I've paid for support and upgrades up to Altium Designer 18 (2018). The best of the Altium series was Summer 09 which won't run on WIN-10. Protel 99SE, which does run on my WIN-10 HP ZBook laptop but has screen/touchpad issues for selecting connections, can also see the P: drive on the networked laptop. The Rev 18 Altium running on the HP ZBook with WIN-10 cannot see the P: drive. AlibreCAD/CAM on WIN-10 can see the P-Drive. Even my licenced copy of MACH3 which I've put on the WIN-10 system to check out G-Code before I head down to the shop with a USB drive can see for example: P:\CNC\Drawings\tensionerAssembly2_Setup 1.tap My Borland CodeWright 7.5 editor from 1991 which still runs on WIN-10 can access the P: Drive. The ZBook was purchased last fall to replace a failing WIN-7 laptop that running Altium 18 could access the P: drive. Haven't updated support for Altium for a few years. Don't even like Altium 18 and how they've changed it so I wouldn't buy it now anyway since the stand alone license I have is now $5790. I think the upgrade price they quoted me to go up to the latest version for one year support was $2790. WIN-10 was around in 2018. There's no reason they shouldn't be able to see the P: drive. Almost enough for me to consider Fusion-360 were it not that the cost for 4th axis CAM which doubles what I'm paying now for AlibreCAD and soon Mecsoft VisualCAM to replace the discontinued AlibreCAM. Microchip's MPLAB-8 which I use for my ELS project runs on WIN-10 and can see the P drive. The latest version of Embarcadero RAD Studio 10.4 (Delphi and C++) also no longer runs on WIN-10. Rev 10.3 does. Support for that runs out in June. Don't see any advantage to renewing support which is from the looks of their web page only $599 but wait there's more. It would require a copy of WIN-10 Pro on my workstation which is 11 years old so likely would need replacing. Although Office 2010 runs on WIN-10 it will probably break at some point so then there's a new copy of that. So the real cost isn't $599 but closer to $5K by the time I upgrade everything like I had to with WinZip for $39 to run on WIN-10. For what? I know! So I can have an "enhanced user experience" with my computers. And all those $ don't include the hours and hours required to upgrade stuff and remove the Microsoft viruses. Given the success I've had with LinuxCNC for the mill and both BeagleBone Black and Raspberry Pi projects Ubuntu is looking better and better. The down side is the lack of a good CAD package. SoapboxBode := FALSE; John Dammeyer From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos Raven Sent: April-03-21 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4 To me WIN-10 is like WIN-VISTA. Crap. I agree !! WIN-10 does not let me see the three NAS units. Whatever I try. Jos

I edited a screen to make it higher contrast. i do not remember if i tested everything after the mods. i also copied the xbox plugins to the plugin folder. now i can not configure anything, the whole configure drop down is grayed out. i know that the machine needs to be disabled to be able to config so that is not the problem. also even though other plugins show but are greyed out the xbox plugin does not show up in the list. also the gcode window shows but i can not get the mdi to show. i tried loading a screen that i had not edited and this has exactly the same problem. what could i have fucked up? -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com http://www.poodlex.com (425) 791-0309

Hi After many wonderful years of using Mach3 it looks like my old computer has finally had it. Somewhere in Mach3 is a XML file with all my user settings on it to transfer to the new computer. Can someone please remind me where it is and what it's called. Thanks Steven

Can someone point me to a listing of current motion controllers that work with Mach 4, please. Sent from my Atari 2600 Regards, -Joemac

mach3 ESS i have been trying to get mach4 to work but it is just too confusing to me. i understand that the program is completely rewritten but why not adhere to some conventions of mach3 as to where to find and set stuff. i can make absolutely no progress with hotkeys and MDI does not work and motor tuning is totally wrong even though it shows correct values. motion when running a program is nuts i must have active highs and lows swapped but ???? has anyone written a tool for using a working mach 3 configuration to set up mach4 with ESS. now for the truly bizarre. i noticed this yesterday and immediately estopped but today i decided to let it run and see what happened. i am running a program that calls a sub many times more than i would ever use it with a tool change to allow for parts change. when i started after a tool change the motors went through a totally bizarre song and dance. could not recognize the tune. i was sure it would crash but it just undid the strange movement and then acted as if nothing happened. anyone ever experience this? and one more request. i have 3800 parts to make and am getting tired of the occasional hiccups with mach3 and really did want to migrate to mach4 but i just can't seem to do it. i am taking heavy drugs for stage 4 prostate cancer and i know my mind is fogged. programming that i could do in my sleep is a serious challenge, i get confused really easily. i also ideally want to get the machine working well enough that i can train someone else to use it when i die which could be soon. I also think that if i get everything ready for others to take over i will live forever :) Seriously at this point my case is eluding the doctors and it might be possible for me to live another 10 years but if i suddenly get too sick to work it will be too late to set this stuff up for others to use. I REALLY NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN SET UP MACH4 FOR ME. I am sure the company i work for (owned by my sister) will pay a fair rate for help. -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com http://www.poodlex.com (425) 791-0309

Hi, This is truly the first time I have ever seen this be something that was an issue. I will check with the support guys and make sure they have not seen this as well. Now as far as making a new interface for setting up the motor that can be done! Lua has all the power to make this happen. We have OEM's that make simple scripts to setup the motor / IO and other settings. I truly don't know what to do in this new "modern age" The amount of things people expect out of the software is getting a little foreign to me . 3D printers have done a wonderful job of getting people into manufacturing. BUT at the same time it has made a bunch of users that think CNC should be that simple. We are working to try to make things simpler everyday and at the same time support the "power users" . I think we are quickly getting to the point that we have no middle ground. So we are working in VERY simple screens and wizards to guide the user to do simple operations and setup. The issue is I think as the people learn more they will want to get deeper into the machine and will want to make the machine do more complex things. Sorry for my rant :) But I am seeing this issue and trying to figure out what we should do to help people. Thanks Brian

i know i have done it in the past and might have the plugin somewhere but i wanted to try the gamepad plugin for mach3 and although it is on the plugin page there is no way to download it. the other joystick plugins are available but not the gamepad. -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... http://www.spencerserolls.com http://www.poodlex.com (425) 791-0309

I think I am too old to switch to Mach4. What i am mainly trying to do is to get the router working so well that others can use it without breaking expensive bits or worse. I will get a better idea on my prognosis in maybe a week and by then should have enough experience with the changes i have made and whether i really need to switch to make the machine more reliable. I changed the kernal speed as suggested and looked for sticky keys which was off. but the main thing I did was to change to continuous jogging mode. I hadn't realized that in continuous you can access incremental and high speed continuous override with shift and control so i can set a really slow jog speed and switch to incremental very small step and if i know everything is clear take my chances with high speed continuous. i also changed the way i set the machine at home which for most of my programs is x0 y0 z0 a0 i was using a block clamped in the stock holder and setting references on the sides of the block this meant i needed to jog around the block to get to the x and y setting sides that is when i broke cutters when the axis moved with no keys pressed. now i am referencing a drilled hole in the top of the block and at z0 so i don't have to risk destroying the cutter. when the spindle is running the out of control cutter can do damage but there is usually time to estop and i am now running with hand on estop all the time. when setting up the spindle was not running so instead of just destroying a wooden block it snapped the cutter before i could hit estop. real fun to watch a $20 plus dollar cutter you just put in new get slowly broken off. if i really do need to change to Mach4 is there anyone i could hire to modify screens add macros and other stuff working from my xml files and screens? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 3:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess At this point I have just one problem. I want to prove that mach4 will work for me and maybe take the transition slowly since i have a few customizations that i really like. When I try configure control motor all the entry boxes are greyed out but i must have pins right and checked boxes to use the axis because they move when i run a gcode. i am going to look one more time for something that might not be checked if you have any places to look in mach4 config or ESS config or any place out that might be responsible for the motor setting page to not think there are motors? again they move under program control. On 3/27/2021 6:49 AM, Brian Barker wrote: Spencer, I need to be at my desk for a bit later today and I am more than happy to go over this with you.and get it setup. I know you have been doing this for a long time and I know you shouldn't have any trouble. I would like to know if we can do anything to make it better. Thanks Brian ______________________________ Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: https://www.MachSupport.com/ On 3/26/2021 10:35 PM, spencer@... wrote: Yes i downloaded and printed the 51 pages did not see anything about hotkeys but the youtube looks promising.Maybe i missed another doc. Can not do many youtubes at high res with our viasat rip off. Still need to know why motor settings csn not be entered On March 26, 2021 7:24:03 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote: Spencer: Did you check out the docs about setting up Mach4 at warp9td site? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 9:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MachCNC] mach 4 and ess I spent hours trying to get mach4 to work with ess. Boy is the configuration a confusing mess. two things i just can't get to work but i am sure there will be others once i test my lube control and other things. i think i can live without my customizations at least for a while but i just wanted to see if mach4 is really any better and worth the effort. I CAN