I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my
little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem
to on the router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3
i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4
i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't
have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and
followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually
corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have
happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe
something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut
might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually
corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have
happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe
something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
Could you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1
F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the
trajectory planner from blending the next move with the critical retract move in
Z.
?
?
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I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with
it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an
external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the
router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having
strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it
also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a
short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to
prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1
get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the
100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked
this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the
exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the
phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an
ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875
Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set
clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able
to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X
2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75? Z
0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this
one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line
the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the
corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and
then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining
it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually
corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice
now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode
that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875
Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003
Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302
I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649
I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2
Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003
Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1? (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all
offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was
going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not
combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i
am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of
a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y
i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that
was intended to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and
file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could you consider
putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and
a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the
trajectory planner from blending the next move with the
critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my
little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't
seem to on the router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in
mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot.
with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing.
if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short
dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug
or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut
might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug
or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
The plugin is in the newest download of Mach4. But we can send you a copy so you can get just the plugin.
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On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:52 PM, spencer@... wrote:
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i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was
going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not
combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i
am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of
a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y
i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that
was intended to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and
file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could you consider
putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and
a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the
trajectory planner from blending the next move with the
critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my
little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't
seem to on the router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in
mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot.
with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing.
if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short
dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug
or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut
might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z
location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug
or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3
trajectory planner was different? never had that particular issue
then.
the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :)
i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks and
buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out. maybe
there are modifier keys that can be used along with joysticks but
i couldn't figure it out.
ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort of
crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough. i only
use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and z are
?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve
that basic control?
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was
going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not
combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i
am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner
of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x
and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a
z that was intended to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and
file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could you consider
putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move
and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the
trajectory planner from blending the next move with the
critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than
my little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't
seem to on the router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in
mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot.
with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing.
if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short
dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the
z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS
bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't
understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut
might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the
z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS
bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't
understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
If your Mach4 is combining moves on different lines, then it is not working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should ever combine 2 separate moves. ? I haven’t had that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize it, and all move from then on are relative to the place I moved the axes to. ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 9:16 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3 trajectory planner was different? never had that particular issue then. the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :) i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out. maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with joysticks but i couldn't figure it out. ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort of crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough. i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and z are ?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve that basic control? i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that was intended to clear obstacles. how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and file dates? On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: Could you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the next move with the critical retract move in Z. ? ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an external switch. I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the router computer, only the house computer. here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 and a larger part of the context here ? M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75? Z 0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1? (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
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i thought i had the latest mach4 installed but who knows i am
real good at mixing up versions. there was no xbox plugin in the
folder in my router installation. i can download it again to be
sure i have the latest but if the only reason is for the plugin i
could use just the plugin. there are probably reasons to update
mach4 if i don't have the latest.
On 4/4/2021 4:55 PM, Brian Barker
wrote:
The plugin is in the newest download of Mach4. But we can send you
a copy so you can get just the plugin.
?
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i
was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option
to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get
around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the
cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a
z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a
problem with other axis following a z that was intended to
clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called
and file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve
Stallings wrote:
Could you
consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1
F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it?
This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the
next move with the critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting
quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything
other than my little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just
can't seem to on the router computer, only the house
computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue.
in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same
spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the
same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below
(using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves
get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish
cut might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job? of course i
meant used not sued. definitely was combining moves and
Brian seems to agree that the trajectory planner will do that and
that the absolute stop is the way to fix it and it did.
On 4/4/2021 6:14 PM, Andy Wander wrote:
If your Mach4
is combining moves on different lines, then it is not
working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should
ever combine 2 separate moves.
?
I haven’t had
that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I
move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize it,
and all move from then on are relative to the place I moved
the axes to.
?
?
i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3
trajectory planner was different? never had that particular
issue then.
the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :)
i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks
and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out.
maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with
joysticks but i couldn't figure it out.
ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort
of crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough.
i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and
z are
?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve
that basic control?
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i
was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option
to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get
around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the
cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a
z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a
problem with other axis following a z that was intended to
clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called
and file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could
you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1
F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it?
This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the
next move with the critical retract move in Z.
?
?
?
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting
quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything
other than my little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just
can't seem to on the router computer, only the house
computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue.
in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same
spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the
same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below
(using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves
get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
?
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish
cut might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
If the trajectory planner is combining moves that are commanded on separate lines, that is, making both moves at the same time, then something is very wrong. ? It sounds like Brian suspects that your acceleration is very low, and therefore the CV mode could cause this to appear to happen. While it is still on the way up in Z, it begins the next X or Y move. ? A quick way to get rid of the problem would be to command Z to move to a higher position before you tell the machine to move in X or Y. That way the roundoff would be in the air rather than in the part. ? The grinding noise you refer to may simply be the way your machine sounds in exact stop mode. It’s a pretty brutal way of doing things. ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 9:28 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job? of course i meant used not sued. definitely was combining moves and Brian seems to agree that the trajectory planner will do that and that the absolute stop is the way to fix it and it did. On 4/4/2021 6:14 PM, Andy Wander wrote: If your Mach4 is combining moves on different lines, then it is not working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should ever combine 2 separate moves. ? I haven’t had that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize it, and all move from then on are relative to the place I moved the axes to. ? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3 trajectory planner was different? never had that particular issue then. the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :) i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out. maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with joysticks but i couldn't figure it out. ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort of crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough. i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and z are ?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve that basic control? i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that was intended to clear obstacles. how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and file dates? On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: Could you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the next move with the critical retract move in Z. ? ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an external switch. I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the router computer, only the house computer. here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 and a larger part of the context here ? M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75? Z 0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1? (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
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i do have very slow acceleration. i also found that i could just
move higher than necessary and missed the edge of the hole. it is
without absolute stop that it made the "grinding" noise. it was
not extreme just noticeable and made me think something mechanical
was wrong. i put the G61 and 64 just around the z moves and it
works just fine now, no grinding and no clipped hole edges. i am
not too concerned if this is a bad way of doing it as long as it
works and it is of such limited scope (three little places in the
code) that i doubt there will be complications.
On 4/4/2021 6:32 PM, Andy Wander wrote:
If the
trajectory planner is combining moves that are commanded on
separate lines, that is, making both moves at the same time,
then something is very wrong.
?
It sounds like
Brian suspects that your acceleration is very low, and
therefore the CV mode could cause this to appear to happen.
While it is still on the way up in Z, it begins the next X
or Y move.
?
A quick way to
get rid of the problem would be to command Z to move to a
higher position before you tell the machine to move in X or
Y. That way the roundoff would be in the air rather than in
the part.
?
The grinding
noise you refer to may simply be the way your machine sounds
in exact stop mode. It’s a pretty brutal way of doing
things.
?
?
i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job? of course
i meant used not sued. definitely was combining moves
and Brian seems to agree that the trajectory planner will do
that and that the absolute stop is the way to fix it and it
did.
On 4/4/2021 6:14 PM, Andy Wander wrote:
If your Mach4
is combining moves on different lines, then it is not
working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should
ever combine 2 separate moves.
?
I haven’t had
that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I
move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize
it, and all move from then on are relative to the place I
moved the axes to.
?
?
i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3
trajectory planner was different? never had that particular
issue then.
the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :)
i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks
and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out.
maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with
joysticks but i couldn't figure it out.
ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some
sort of crude a control just fixed increments would be good
enough. i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal
but x y and z are
?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to
achieve that basic control?
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4?
i was going to look but forgot to see if there was an
option to not combine separate moves. now that i know how
to get around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see
the cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i
had a z move separate and an x and y i think this is only
a problem with other axis following a z that was intended
to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called
and file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could
you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the
G1 F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after
it? This prevents the trajectory planner from blending
the next move with the critical retract move in Z.
?
?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting
quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything
other than my little parts counter and an external
switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just
can't seem to on the router computer, only the house
computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue.
in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the
same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also
did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold
shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x
and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves
to the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it?
also previously this is the exact spot where phantom
moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the
phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with
mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd
about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
?
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to
finish cut might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves
to the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it?
also previously this is the exact spot where phantom
moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the
phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with
mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd
about my gcode that i don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Hey, If it is working well for you, then that’s all that matters. ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 9:48 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? ? i do have very slow acceleration. i also found that i could just move higher than necessary and missed the edge of the hole. it is without absolute stop that it made the "grinding" noise. it was not extreme just noticeable and made me think something mechanical was wrong. i put the G61 and 64 just around the z moves and it works just fine now, no grinding and no clipped hole edges. i am not too concerned if this is a bad way of doing it as long as it works and it is of such limited scope (three little places in the code) that i doubt there will be complications. On 4/4/2021 6:32 PM, Andy Wander wrote: If the trajectory planner is combining moves that are commanded on separate lines, that is, making both moves at the same time, then something is very wrong. ? It sounds like Brian suspects that your acceleration is very low, and therefore the CV mode could cause this to appear to happen. While it is still on the way up in Z, it begins the next X or Y move. ? A quick way to get rid of the problem would be to command Z to move to a higher position before you tell the machine to move in X or Y. That way the roundoff would be in the air rather than in the part. ? The grinding noise you refer to may simply be the way your machine sounds in exact stop mode. It’s a pretty brutal way of doing things. ? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job? of course i meant used not sued. definitely was combining moves and Brian seems to agree that the trajectory planner will do that and that the absolute stop is the way to fix it and it did. On 4/4/2021 6:14 PM, Andy Wander wrote: If your Mach4 is combining moves on different lines, then it is not working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should ever combine 2 separate moves. ? I haven’t had that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize it, and all move from then on are relative to the place I moved the axes to. ? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3 trajectory planner was different? never had that particular issue then. the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :) i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out. maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with joysticks but i couldn't figure it out. ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort of crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough. i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and z are ?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve that basic control? i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that was intended to clear obstacles. how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and file dates? On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: Could you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the next move with the critical retract move in Z. ? ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an external switch. I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the router computer, only the house computer. here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 and a larger part of the context here ? M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75? Z 0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1? (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
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I don't like obscure risky code that others might get stuck figuring out. However the noise really bothered me? I hate hearing noise thst sounds like something is tearing itself apart. Ball screws sound like this before they seize
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On April 4, 2021 6:44:56 PM PDT, Andy Wander <ohawiseguyeh@...> wrote:
Hey, If it is working well for you, then that’s all that matters. ? ? i do have very slow acceleration. i also found that i could just move higher than necessary and missed the edge of the hole. it is without absolute stop that it made the "grinding" noise. it was not extreme just noticeable and made me think something mechanical was wrong. i put the G61 and 64 just around the z moves and it works just fine now, no grinding and no clipped hole edges. i am not too concerned if this is a bad way of doing it as long as it works and it is of such limited scope (three little places in the code) that i doubt there will be complications. On 4/4/2021 6:32 PM, Andy Wander wrote: If the trajectory planner is combining moves that are commanded on separate lines, that is, making both moves at the same time, then something is very wrong. ? It sounds like Brian suspects that your acceleration is very low, and therefore the CV mode could cause this to appear to happen. While it is still on the way up in Z, it begins the next X or Y move. ? A quick way to get rid of the problem would be to command Z to move to a higher position before you tell the machine to move in X or Y. That way the roundoff would be in the air rather than in the part. ? The grinding noise you refer to may simply be the way your machine sounds in exact stop mode. It’s a pretty brutal way of doing things. ? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job? of course i meant used not sued. definitely was combining moves and Brian seems to agree that the trajectory planner will do that and that the absolute stop is the way to fix it and it did. On 4/4/2021 6:14 PM, Andy Wander wrote: If your Mach4 is combining moves on different lines, then it is not working correctly. There’s no way that a controller should ever combine 2 separate moves. ? I haven’t had that problem, but lately I am having the problem that if I move my axes during a toolchange, mach4 doesn’t realize it, and all move from then on are relative to the place I moved the axes to. ? ? i sued the G61 and G64 and it does the job. I guess mach3 trajectory planner was different? never had that particular issue then. the xbox plugin is great once it is activated :) i tried to figure out how to best use the various joysticks and buttons to get what i want and could not figure it out. maybe there are modifier keys that can be used along with joysticks but i couldn't figure it out. ideally i want slow and fast x y and z jogging and some sort of crude a control just fixed increments would be good enough. i only use the A in setup so it is not a big deal but x y and z are ?so what is a reasonable way to configure the xbox to achieve that basic control? i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a z that was intended to clear obstacles. how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and file dates? On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: Could you consider putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the trajectory planner from blending the next move with the critical retract move in Z. ? ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] odd behavior ESS? I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than my little parts counter and an external switch. I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't seem to on the router computer, only the house computer. here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 and a larger part of the context here ? M9 (mist off to release clamp) G1 F10000 A 90 M7 (mist on to set clamp) M3 S1000 (DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut might help ejection) G52 z - 1.67 G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71) G1 F75? Z 0.0 G1 F83 Z -.35 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F31 Z -.7 G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower) G1 F51 Z -1.15 G1 F31 X 1.73 G1 F83 Z .2 G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move) without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined into one move clipping off the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the z location and then to the X and Y i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't understand G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) (SECOND WARP HOLE) G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67 (G1 F61? Z .3 just in case) G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649 G1 F51 Z -.14 G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035 G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303 G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0 G1 F93.0 Y0.5149 G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085 G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736 G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736 G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0 G1 F83 Z .1? (retract) G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets) -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
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Note for you guys... if you simply have one move that you would
like to be exact stop you can use a G9 on that line. It will stop
the CV for that one move (Non Modal) . This is in the Gcode manual
if you would like to see it on Page 18 if you need clarification.
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
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i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i was
going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to not
combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around this i
am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip the corner
of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move separate and an x
and y i think this is only a problem with other axis following a
z that was intended to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and
file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve Stallings
wrote:
Could you consider
putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move
and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents the
trajectory planner from blending the next move with the
critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other than
my little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just can't
seem to on the router computer, only the house computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in
mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same spot.
with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the same thing.
if i don't have the line in bold shown below (using a short
dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the
z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS
bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't
understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish cut
might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get combined
into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to the
z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move) happened
and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must be an ESS
bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i don't
understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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i will try this but it works with the g64/61. is there any reason
that G9 is better? i do have one line moves. what is the advantage
of a non modal code if the same can be done with an on and off
command. i doubt there is really much difference but ???
On 4/5/2021 5:02 AM, Brian Barker
wrote:
Note for you guys... if you simply have one move that you would
like to be exact stop you can use a G9 on that line. It will
stop the CV for that one move (Non Modal) . This is in the Gcode
manual if you would like to see it on Page 18 if you need
clarification.
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
i'll try that. so there is a trajectory planner in mach4? i
was going to look but forgot to see if there was an option to
not combine separate moves. now that i know how to get around
this i am fine but it was a surprise to see the cutter clip
the corner of a pocket as it climbs out. i had a z move
separate and an x and y i think this is only a problem with
other axis following a z that was intended to clear obstacles.
how do i get the latest xbox plugin and what is it called and
file dates?
On 4/4/2021 4:02 PM, Steve
Stallings wrote:
Could you consider
putting a G61 (exact stop) ahead of the G1 F83 Z .2 move
and a G64 (exact stop cancel) after it? This prevents
the trajectory planner from blending the next move with
the critical retract move in Z.
?
?
I have been learning a lot about mach4 and am getting quite
comfortable with it. I do not need to add anything other
than my little parts counter and an external switch.
I would like to get xbox controller working but i just
can't seem to on the router computer, only the house
computer.
here is the odd behavior. i think this is an ESS issue. in
mach3 i has having strange behavior at exactly the same
spot. with mach4 i didn't until suddenly it also did the
same thing. if i don't have the line in bold shown below
(using a short dwell) the z and followiong x and y moves get
combined
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
and a larger part of the context here
M9 (mist off to release clamp)
G1 F10000 A 90
M7 (mist on to set clamp)
M3 S1000
(DO DSLOT FINISH)
G1 F65? Z 0 (might be able to move a little less to finish
cut might help ejection)
G52 z - 1.67
G0 X 2.1541 Y 2.7725
G1 F93? X 2.1541 Y 2.7725 (was Y 2.71)
G1 F75? Z 0.0
G1 F83 Z -.35
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F31 Z -.7
G1 F32 X 2.1541 (this one needs to be slower)
G1 F51 Z -1.15
G1 F31 X 1.73
G1 F83 Z .2
G4? P100 (dwell to prevent combined move)
without this line the G1 F83 Z .2 and the next G1 get
combined into one move clipping off
the corner of the part? with the 100 ms dwell it moves to
the z location and then to the X and Y
i checked this over and over and am not imagining it? also
previously this is the exact spot where phantom moves (and
usually corrections that cancelled the phantom move)
happened and have happened twice now with mach4 so it must
be an ESS bug or maybe something odd about my gcode that i
don't understand
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
(SECOND WARP HOLE)
G52 X-.555 Y .875 Z -1.67
(G1 F61? Z .3 just in case)
G1 F93? X2.1003 Y0.5649
G1 F51 Z -.14
G2 F93.0 X2.0828 Y0.5696 I0.0 J0.035
G2 Y0.6302 I0.0175 J0.0303
G2 X2.1353 Y0.5999 I0.0175 J-0.0303
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5649 I-0.035 J0.0
G1 F93.0 Y0.5149
G2 F93.0 X2.0578 Y0.5263 I0.0 J0.085
G2 Y0.6735 I0.0425 J0.0736
G2 X2.1853 Y0.5999 I0.0425 J-0.0736
G2 X2.1003 Y0.5149 I-0.085 J0.0
G1 F83 Z .1? (retract)
G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (cancel all offsets)
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Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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