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Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.


 

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Er, who me...? ?

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Yes, I have to admit to being on version number 5. A K1, these things keep getting better.

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Now whenever I <need ?> to make something I am torn between all the different ways I can do it. The cnc lathe still gets it’s share.

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Yup, 3d printers stole a lot of air from the room.

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Art

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On 2024-01-19 2:07 p.m., Brian Barker wrote:

> I miss the days when we had TON's of people chatting here and working

> on machines. 3D printers and lack of building machines has changed

> what people are doing now.

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> ______________________________

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> Brian Barker

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> On 1/19/2024 11:59 AM, th.carel wrote:

>> Hi Art and group !

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>> Greetings from France ,be healthy :)

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>> Thierry

>> ? Envoyé depuis l'application Mail Orange

>> ??----------------

>> ??De : Art <fenerty@...>

>> ??Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 17:20

>> ??? : [email protected]

>> ??Objet : Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

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>> ? >>Thanks for your leadership

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>> ? ? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This

>> place is ALL you guys.

>> ? ?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the

>> group now and then for the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you

>> I remember.

>>?

>> Great job

>> Art

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>> On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:

>>> Thanks for your leadership

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Thanks

Art

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Yup, 3d printers stole a lot of air from the room.

Art

On 2024-01-19 2:07 p.m., Brian Barker wrote:
I miss the days when we had TON's of people chatting here and working on machines. 3D printers and lack of building machines has changed what people are doing now.

______________________________

Brian Barker

On 1/19/2024 11:59 AM, th.carel wrote:
Hi Art and group !

Greetings from France ,be healthy :)

Thierry
? Envoyé depuis l'application Mail Orange
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??De : Art <fenerty@...>
??Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 17:20
??? : [email protected]
??Objet : Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

? >>Thanks for your leadership

? ? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This
place is ALL you guys.
? ?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group
now and then for
the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

Great job
Art


On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks for your leadership


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Thanks
Art
www.gearotic.com


 

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Hi Art,

Joe is doing all sorts of interesting things.? He never did buy an ELS from me because he went straight to MACH3 on his lathe.? I enjoy visiting him and seeing whatever new project he is doing.? He’s a very busy guy.

John Dammeyer

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Macmurchie
Sent: January 19, 2024 10:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

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Hi Art,

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Wonderful to see you pop up and say hi. Make no mistake, you have been a big part of my life and I am forever thankful. <Grin> ?

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I was reflecting and wondering how you are doing just a day or two ago. Made it past birthday 80 and getting close to 81 myself. Time sure does fly by.

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>>Thanks for your leadership

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? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This place is ALL you guys.

?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group now and then for the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

?

Great job

Art

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On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:

> Thanks for your leadership

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Thanks

Art

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Hi Art,

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Wonderful to see you pop up and say hi. Make no mistake, you have been a big part of my life and I am forever thankful. <Grin> ?

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I was reflecting and wondering how you are doing just a day or two ago. Made it past birthday 80 and getting close to 81 myself. Time sure does fly by.

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>>Thanks for your leadership

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? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This place is ALL you guys.

?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group now and then for the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

?

Great job

Art

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On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:

> Thanks for your leadership

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Thanks

Art

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I think you can credit a lot of the slowdown to Yahoo.? Since they shitcanned the groups, it is difficult to keep up with any pursuit (including Mach)..


On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 11:09:55 AM MST, Brian Barker <brianb@...> wrote:


I miss the days when we had TON's of people chatting here and working on
machines. 3D printers and lack of building machines has changed what
people are doing now.

______________________________

Brian Barker


On 1/19/2024 11:59 AM, th.carel wrote:
> Hi Art and group !
>
> Greetings from France ,be healthy :)
>
> Thierry
>?
> Envoyé depuis l'application Mail Orange
>? ?----------------
>? ?De : Art <fenerty@...>
>? ?Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 17:20
>? ?? : [email protected]
>? ?Objet : Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.
>?
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>? >>Thanks for your leadership
>
>? ? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This
> place is ALL you guys.
>? ?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group
> now and then for
> the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.
>
> Great job
> Art
>
>
> On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
>> Thanks for your leadership






 

I miss the days when we had TON's of people chatting here and working on machines. 3D printers and lack of building machines has changed what people are doing now.

______________________________

Brian Barker

On 1/19/2024 11:59 AM, th.carel wrote:
Hi Art and group !

Greetings from France ,be healthy :)

Thierry
Envoyé depuis l'application Mail Orange
?----------------
?De : Art <fenerty@...>
?Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 17:20
?? : [email protected]
?Objet : Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

>>Thanks for your leadership

? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This
place is ALL you guys.
?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group
now and then for
the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

Great job
Art


On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks for your leadership


 

Hi Art and group !

Greetings from France ,be healthy :)

Thierry

Envoyé depuis l'application Mail Orange
?----------------
?De : Art <fenerty@...>
?Envoyé : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 17:20
?? : [email protected]
?Objet : Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.
?

>>Thanks for your leadership

? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This
place is ALL you guys.
?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group
now and then for
the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

Great job
Art


On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks for your leadership
--
Thanks
Art
www.gearotic.com


 

Thanks for your leadership
? LOL, cant claim to that anymore, Ive been gone a long time. This place is ALL you guys.
?Im just pleased it has continued so long.? I keep an eye on the group now and then for
the sake of nostalgia, amazing how many of you I remember.

Great job
Art


On 2024-01-19 11:34 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks for your leadership
--
Thanks
Art
www.gearotic.com


 

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Don’t overlook the simple obvious dumb stuff.

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I once found a laser cutter I hadn’t used for a while was completely dead.? Had removed most of the electronics before realising I’d forgotten to turn off the emergency switch (which I always hit when finished).? Geez.

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Once at work a few of us spent a while diagnosing an unresponsive server, someone did ask “Is it plugged in?” (of course it was) but on checking I found the network cable wasn’t.? Gah.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Kahler
Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2024 1:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

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Thanks Tony, I got it running with the low-voltage and apparently it had something to do with the charge pump, still working that ?but at least it’s running.?

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Chuck

-sent from my iphone --

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On Jan 19, 2024, at 4:01?AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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CMOS circuitry is usually good for triggering down to 2v, so the 3.5v Chuck is reading should be enough.? Probably not the issue, however I have had situations where if running of 5v then the trigger voltage was about 4.5v, so maybe.? I wouldn’t rule out a dodgy board or power supply, but put it a fair way down the list.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Homann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2024 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

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I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?

The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

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Cheers?

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Peter Homann - (from my mobile)




On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

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Fingers crossed,

Lou

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

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Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

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Art,
Yes, this is an amazing group.

?I can’t believe all the help I got.?

44 total responses. ?

Thanks for your leadership,
Chuck?

-sent from my iphone --



On Jan 19, 2024, at 6:56?AM, Art <fenerty@...> wrote:

? So nice to see Mach people still supporting each other after so many years. :)

Art


On 2024-01-19 10:44 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks Tony, I got it running with the low-voltage and apparently it had something to do with the charge pump, still working that ?but at least it’s running.?

Chuck
-sent from my iphone --



On Jan 19, 2024, at 4:01?AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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CMOS circuitry is usually good for triggering down to 2v, so the 3.5v Chuck is reading should be enough.? Probably not the issue, however I have had situations where if running of 5v then the trigger voltage was about 4.5v, so maybe.? I wouldn’t rule out a dodgy board or power supply, but put it a fair way down the list.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Homann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2024 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

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I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?

The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

?

Cheers?

?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)



On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

?

Fingers crossed,

Lou

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

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Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


-- 
Thanks
Art 


 

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So nice to see Mach people still supporting each other after so many years. :)

Art


On 2024-01-19 10:44 a.m., Chuck Kahler wrote:
Thanks Tony, I got it running with the low-voltage and apparently it had something to do with the charge pump, still working that ?but at least it’s running.?

Chuck
-sent from my iphone --



On Jan 19, 2024, at 4:01?AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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CMOS circuitry is usually good for triggering down to 2v, so the 3.5v Chuck is reading should be enough.? Probably not the issue, however I have had situations where if running of 5v then the trigger voltage was about 4.5v, so maybe.? I wouldn’t rule out a dodgy board or power supply, but put it a fair way down the list.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Homann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2024 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

?

I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?

The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

?

Cheers?

?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)



On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

?

Fingers crossed,

Lou

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


-- 
Thanks
Art 


 

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Thanks Tony, I got it running with the low-voltage and apparently it had something to do with the charge pump, still working that ?but at least it’s running.?

Chuck

-sent from my iphone --



On Jan 19, 2024, at 4:01?AM, Tony Smith <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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CMOS circuitry is usually good for triggering down to 2v, so the 3.5v Chuck is reading should be enough.? Probably not the issue, however I have had situations where if running of 5v then the trigger voltage was about 4.5v, so maybe.? I wouldn’t rule out a dodgy board or power supply, but put it a fair way down the list.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Homann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2024 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

?

I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?

The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

?

Cheers?

?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)



On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

?

Fingers crossed,

Lou

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


 

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CMOS circuitry is usually good for triggering down to 2v, so the 3.5v Chuck is reading should be enough.? Probably not the issue, however I have had situations where if running of 5v then the trigger voltage was about 4.5v, so maybe.? I wouldn’t rule out a dodgy board or power supply, but put it a fair way down the list.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Homann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2024 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 mill stopped in the middle of a job.

?

I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?

The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

?

Cheers?

?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)



On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

?

Fingers crossed,

Lou

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


 

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Peter,

Steve Stalings just gave me some new jumper settings on the PMDX board that allowed me to get my machine running In spite of the lower voltages, ?Which supports your input.?

As I understand Steve, the settings I currently have will bypass my charge pump and Estop, so I need to get that corrected.?

Thank you for your input,
Chuck?





Steve Stallings

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On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:27?PM, Peter Homann <groups@...> wrote:

?I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?
The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

Cheers?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)
http://www.homanndesigns.com

On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

Fingers crossed,
Lou


On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


 

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Thanks for your input.?


-sent from my iphone --



On Jan 18, 2024, at 6:08?PM, ptegler <ptegler@...> wrote:

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...kind of late to this thread here.... just saw someone with issues...? ...? I've been running a PMDX-126, with Geckos.... have the remote panel for the PMDX as well, mounted up at the users station (reset emo indicators etc)

so lots of long cable runs down to the control box under the table. I've never seen voltage level issues as long as you shield stuff correctly.? I've probably well over 1,000 hr of run time on my electronics without a single hiccup.

Now I DO KNOW that now that I said that out loud...the machine will be DOA next time to power switch is flipped on.

...short version.... you've got a simple shielding and routing issue.? Group a ground wire in any wire bundle you run. Twist associated groups of signal types together. (high freq and low freq separated when possible) and a common ground point for frame, elecs box, spindle ground etc.
glwyi



 

...kind of late to this thread here.... just saw someone with issues...? ...? I've been running a PMDX-126, with Geckos.... have the remote panel for the PMDX as well, mounted up at the users station (reset emo indicators etc)

so lots of long cable runs down to the control box under the table. I've never seen voltage level issues as long as you shield stuff correctly.? I've probably well over 1,000 hr of run time on my electronics without a single hiccup.

Now I DO KNOW that now that I said that out loud...the machine will be DOA next time to power switch is flipped on.

...short version.... you've got a simple shielding and routing issue.? Group a ground wire in any wire bundle you run. Twist associated groups of signal types together. (high freq and low freq separated when possible) and a common ground point for frame, elecs box, spindle ground etc.
glwyi



 

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I really doubt that it will be too low a voltage that is the cause.?
The PMDX breakout boards are quality boards, well designed and will most certainly be using 74ACT or other buffers that are capable of dealing with 3.3V voltages.?

Cheers?

Peter Homann - (from my mobile)
http://www.homanndesigns.com

On 19 Jan 2024, at 10:12?am, Lou Jackson via groups.io <lou@...> wrote:

? Even better. Perfect!

Fingers crossed,
Lou


On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


 

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Even better. Perfect!

Fingers crossed,
Lou


On Jan 18, 2024, at 3:31?PM, Chuck Kahler <chuck767@...> wrote:

?

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck

<IMG_9005.jpeg>


 

Lou,?
looks like for $20. I can get one of these,?
easy Peezy, if low-voltage is my problem, ?which I hope it is.?

Thanks?

Chuck


 

Lou,?

thanks for the input, if the voltage is too low, that Could be the issue.
?
I’m not familiar with pull up resistors, but I can do some googling, ?

Chuck?