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Limit switches and home switches


bob_quale
 

I'm not sure the difference between limit and home switches. I have
a bridgeport with limit switches, they are in series with a mushroom
switch. If one is off, it kills the power to the power supply for
the motors, via a contactor, stopping all motion. I then have a over
ride to jog off the switch. Where do the home switches come into
play and how do they work?

Bob


Peter Homann
 

The simple answer is, in normal operation home switches are meant to be
activated. Limit switches are not.

When the machined is commanded to reference (or "home") the machine, the
software moves the machine towards the home switches until they are
activated. The software now knows where the machine is.

The limit switches should only be activated if something is wrong and the
machine has travelled too far. This is how your machine is wired.

Mach1/2 allows the home and limit functions to use the same switches.

If you tell the machine to "Reference" then the software is expecting the
switches to e activated. It therefore treats the switches as home switches
and nudges the machine off the switch.

During normal operation the switches are treated as limit switches. If
activated, the software stops the machine in an ESTOP operation.


So, if you want to use the referencing feature of Mach1/2 you have two
options.

1 - Install a 2nd set of switches for the home switches.

2 - Rewire your machine so that the limit switches are not in series with
the big red button.

Cheers,




Peter Homann
mailto:Peter.Homann@...
Adacel Technologies Limited,
250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA
<>
Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960
Mobile 0421-601 665

-----Original Message-----
From: bob_quale [mailto:Robert.Quale@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2003 10:38 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Limit switches and home switches


I'm not sure the difference between limit and home switches. I have
a bridgeport with limit switches, they are in series with a mushroom
switch. If one is off, it kills the power to the power supply for
the motors, via a contactor, stopping all motion. I then have a over
ride to jog off the switch. Where do the home switches come into
play and how do they work?

Bob



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Bob Campbell
 

Bob,

I sent you a long private note, but Comcast does not like you. It returned
the note.

Bob Campbell

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob_quale" <Robert.Quale@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Limit switches and home switches


bob_quale
 

I thought when you homed, it was based on where you told mach2 home
was originaly, Perhaps x0, y0, z0? so what do you need the switches
for? also would the switches have to trigger precisley?

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Peter Homann"
<peter.homann@a...> wrote:
The simple answer is, in normal operation home switches are meant
to be
activated. Limit switches are not.

When the machined is commanded to reference (or "home") the
machine, the
software moves the machine towards the home switches until they are
activated. The software now knows where the machine is.

The limit switches should only be activated if something is wrong
and the
machine has travelled too far. This is how your machine is wired.

Mach1/2 allows the home and limit functions to use the same
switches.

If you tell the machine to "Reference" then the software is
expecting the
switches to e activated. It therefore treats the switches as home
switches
and nudges the machine off the switch.

During normal operation the switches are treated as limit switches.
If
activated, the software stops the machine in an ESTOP operation.


So, if you want to use the referencing feature of Mach1/2 you have
two
options.

1 - Install a 2nd set of switches for the home switches.

2 - Rewire your machine so that the limit switches are not in
series with
the big red button.

Cheers,




Peter Homann
mailto:Peter.Homann@a...
Adacel Technologies Limited,
250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA
<>
Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960
Mobile 0421-601 665


-----Original Message-----
From: bob_quale [mailto:Robert.Quale@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2003 10:38 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Limit switches and home switches


I'm not sure the difference between limit and home switches. I
have
a bridgeport with limit switches, they are in series with a
mushroom
switch. If one is off, it kills the power to the power supply for
the motors, via a contactor, stopping all motion. I then have a
over
ride to jog off the switch. Where do the home switches come into
play and how do they work?

Bob



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Art
 

Bob:

Imagine turning on a machine which has a tool sitting in the middle of the
bed. If you have home switches, you can say "ref axis" and the axis will
move to home and then zero the DRO's. Or it can put any amount in the DRO's.
So if the switch is 2 inches away from limit, the DRO's can then be
programmed to read 2".
Its a handy way to make sure that 0,0,0 today is the same as every other
day. The switches do not need to be great, once hit, the axis moves off the
switch before zeroing. You can share the limits with this on some systems.

Hope this helps,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Peter Homann
 

Bob,

There were 2 terms I used Home and Reference.

The Mach1/2 "Home" switches are used for referencing. When you reference the
machine, The machine moves in the direction configured in the software. The
machine keeps moving until it activates the home switch for each axis. These
switches can be at any position you like. i.e. X=2, Y= -4.3, Z=6.

When the machine activates these switches it knows where it is. i.e.
2,-4.3,6. Without the reference switches the software doesn't now where the
machine is when it powers up. With the switches, you 'Ref all" as the first
operation when you power up. the machine moves until the switches are
activated, and the software now knows where the machine is.

Then, when you instruct the machine to home it goes to 0,0,0 relative to the
reference position, 2,-4.3,6

A lot of machines have the reference position at x=0,y=0. I guess that's why
the reference switches are called home switches in the mach1/2 set-up
screens.

Without the switches, you need to manually jog the machine to a position,
say 0,0,0. type 0,0,0 into the DROs, then press "REF All" The software now
knows where the machine is.

Yes, the accuracy of your reference switches will determine how accurate
your reference positioning is,

Cheers,

Peter Homann
mailto:Peter.Homann@...
Adacel Technologies Limited,
250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA
<>
Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960
Mobile 0421-601 665

-----Original Message-----
From: bob_quale [mailto:Robert.Quale@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2003 12:26 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: Limit switches and home switches


I thought when you homed, it was based on where you told mach2 home
was originaly, Perhaps x0, y0, z0? so what do you need the switches
for? also would the switches have to trigger precisley?

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Peter Homann"
<peter.homann@a...> wrote:
The simple answer is, in normal operation home switches are meant
to be
activated. Limit switches are not.

When the machined is commanded to reference (or "home") the
machine, the
software moves the machine towards the home switches until they are
activated. The software now knows where the machine is.

The limit switches should only be activated if something is wrong
and the
machine has travelled too far. This is how your machine is wired.

Mach1/2 allows the home and limit functions to use the same
switches.

If you tell the machine to "Reference" then the software is
expecting the
switches to e activated. It therefore treats the switches as home
switches
and nudges the machine off the switch.

During normal operation the switches are treated as limit switches.
If
activated, the software stops the machine in an ESTOP operation.


So, if you want to use the referencing feature of Mach1/2 you have
two
options.

1 - Install a 2nd set of switches for the home switches.

2 - Rewire your machine so that the limit switches are not in
series with
the big red button.

Cheers,




Peter Homann
mailto:Peter.Homann@a...
Adacel Technologies Limited,
250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA
<>
Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960
Mobile 0421-601 665


-----Original Message-----
From: bob_quale [mailto:Robert.Quale@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2003 10:38 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Limit switches and home switches


I'm not sure the difference between limit and home switches. I
have
a bridgeport with limit switches, they are in series with a
mushroom
switch. If one is off, it kills the power to the power supply for
the motors, via a contactor, stopping all motion. I then have a
over
ride to jog off the switch. Where do the home switches come into
play and how do they work?

Bob



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Quale, Robert
 

How would I go about using the same switches for home and limit? How would
I know if the switches already on my Bridgeport would be suitable?

Thanks Bob


Art
 

Hi Bob:

Just wire the switch to the printer port, turn on the home and limit for
that axis and set the pin for both to the pin you have the switch hooked to.
Press the switch and both home and limit should light up on the Diags page.

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Daniel Maioli Padua
 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Peter Homann"
<peter.homann@a...> wrote:
If you tell the machine to "Reference" then the software is
expecting the
switches to e activated. It therefore treats the switches as home
switches
and nudges the machine off the switch.

During normal operation the switches are treated as limit
switches. If
activated, the software stops the machine in an ESTOP operation.

What do I do if I hit the limit switch while jogging? I can?t get
out of the e-stop condition.
I thought that if I hit the low switch, the machine stops movent to
this direction and should let me move the machine off the switch.
Does it performs this way? If yes, how can I get it work?

I am using Lim--X, HomeX (same pin); lim--Y, HomeY (same pin) and at
end of the positive way, I put the e-stop switch. Reference works
fine here.

Daniel.


Art
 

Daniel:

If you selct "AutoOverRide" from the corrections page, pressing Reset will
overRide the limit switches until you jog off them. I couldn't use hi and
low as many people wire their limits to one pin.

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca