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Just an update - DXF layers and elements
Doug Fortune
Art wrote:
Hi Art: A while ago I suggested you load a DXF file with certain options. Am I to assume (from the above) that you can now optionally turn only certain (entire) layers on? For example, one layer might be the curvey surface of an object, and another might be a drill layer, a third layer might be only a 'helper' layer to draw construction objects. All of these layers should be treated differently. Also, you'd like to let it know which was a 'drill' layer (or 'drill' element, ie an up-and-down movement, not 'follow the contour' movement). The 'helper' layer(s) can be ignored (unless perhaps if you had a 'helper' layer which had your raw stock outline). I also suggested that each DXF 'element' in a complicated drawing could be turned on manually, and the ORDER and DIRECTION (and DEPTH) of the tool could be governed by that manual selection. Here is why: suppose you have a DXF with your complete part all on one layer, but right now you just want to mill the outside contour. Perhaps you'd want to start near the edge of the material (this is not necessarily how the DXF was drawn in the first place) and proceed in a certain direction (ie choice of upmilling or downmilling). By picking the segments you want, in the order you want, you'd get maximum control over the toolpath. Have you given that idea any further consideration? Who else thinks this is a good idea? Doug Fortune . |
Hugh Smith
Doug et. al.
My personal opinion is that a Cam program is a Cam program, a Cad program is a Cad program, and a controller is a controller. I don't think an excellent control program like Mach2-n should be mucked up with cam functions at all. If you want a different order to your dxf vectors, then run it through a Cam program. How many different CAD/CAM programs are there currently in existence and none of them does every thing everyone wants. Mach2, for what it does, is a fantastic control program. Keep it simple, keep it pure and get rid of all the CAM functions. Flame suit on Bring on the hate mail. Hugh Hi Art: A while ago I suggested you load a DXF file with certain options. Am I to assume (from the above) that you can now optionally turn only certain (entire) layers on? For example, one layer might be the curvey surface of an object, and another might be a drill layer, a third layer might be only a 'helper' layer to draw construction objects. All of these layers should be treated differently. Also, you'd like to let it know which was a 'drill' layer (or 'drill' element, ie an up-and-down movement, not 'follow the contour' movement). The 'helper' layer(s) can be ignored (unless perhaps if you had a 'helper' layer which had your raw stock outline). I also suggested that each DXF 'element' in a complicated drawing could be turned on manually, and the ORDER and DIRECTION (and DEPTH) of the tool could be governed by that manual selection. Here is why: suppose you have a DXF with your complete part all on one layer, but right now you just want to mill the outside contour. Perhaps you'd want to start near the edge of the material (this is not necessarily how the DXF was drawn in the first place) and proceed in a certain direction (ie choice of upmilling or downmilling). By picking the segments you want, in the order you want, you'd get maximum control over the toolpath. Have you given that idea any further consideration? Who else thinks this is a good idea? Doug Fortune |
Alan Trest
I second that, or third, whatever.
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Keep it a controller only. Alan Trest "carlcnc" <carlcnc@y...> wrote: "Keep it simple, keep it pure and get rid of all |
Art
"Keep it simple, keep it pure and get rid of allIt is a reality that in order to develop something like Mach2, a certain amount of CAM functionallity must be included in order to appeal to the broadest segment of the user community. I have committed to adding one further thing to DXF and that is layer ordering, after that the DXF functionallity will stay at that level for the forseeable future. I know from the many letters and questions I get that someone is missing the boat in terms of offering a "CAM for Dummy's" program to do all the neat simple stuff that is desired out there at a very low price, and I may, one day have to dive into that as a separate project, but for now, my plan is simple, make Mach2 into the best controller it can be. My time for the most part will be spent tightening the code and its capabilities until it will work across the broadest spectrum of possible uses. The base Mill program is almost complete, with the addition of multi-res screens and the removal of a couple more esoteric bugs it will be ready for release. Mach2Turn will then be completed. And then more capabilities will be added to both in terms of speaking to the outside world. The G2002 will be hooked up, other IO cards will be allowed and closed loop type of operations will be added. CAM functionallity has a very low priority until all else is at least underway and being tested with the possible exception of Gerber Drill code at some point if I can squeak it in.. (Just a future outlook...) Art www.artofcnc.ca |
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