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I have been using mach3 for many years. i am recently having strange behavior occasionally and breaking tools. just goes wacky now and then so i have to keep my hand on estop all the time and can not leave the machine.? there are no problems mechanical or electrical that i can find. i am using a smooth stepper.
questions, will smooth stepper ethernet work fine with mach 4 windows 10? i wrote custom screens and macros and i understand these will have to be rewritten for mach 4. i don't have the patience to learn all this new stuff. i am currently taking strong drugs for chemotherapy and am more foggy than usual. is there anyone i can hire to duplicate my custom screens for mach4 and also the macros? i can try mach4 and maybe i don't really needs this but i am trying to figure out my options i have a job of 4000 parts to make as soon as possible and would prefer to not have to baby the machine the whole time. -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
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Mach4 with the ESS is a lot less buggy than Mach3, in my experience.
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If I had to give a number, I would say Mach4 has maybe 5% as many bugs as Mach2. I much prefer Mach4, it's much easier to customize. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 2:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? I have been using mach3 for many years. i am recently having strange behavior occasionally and breaking tools. just goes wacky now and then so i have to keep my hand on estop all the time and can not leave the machine. there are no problems mechanical or electrical that i can find. i am using a smooth stepper. questions, will smooth stepper ethernet work fine with mach 4 windows 10? i wrote custom screens and macros and i understand these will have to be rewritten for mach 4. i don't have the patience to learn all this new stuff. i am currently taking strong drugs for chemotherapy and am more foggy than usual. is there anyone i can hire to duplicate my custom screens for mach4 and also the macros? i can try mach4 and maybe i don't really needs this but i am trying to figure out my options i have a job of 4000 parts to make as soon as possible and would prefer to not have to baby the machine the whole time. -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
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I had a similar problem a few years ago with Mach 3 and almost tore my hair out trying to figure out what the problem was. I checked everything mechanical to no avail. Someone suggested copying the existing XML file and then wipe out and reload Mach3, then load save XML file. It worked for me. You can save your special screen set and reload it into Mach 3 as well.
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On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:41 AM, spencer@... wrote: |
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What is your machine doing? Are you running faster then before? Maybe a loose wire? I have used Mach 3 sense it was master CNC and can’t see a reason to change. If your having problem with you machine with Mach 3 it is reasonable to believe the same will be true with mach4.
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On Mar 26, 2021, at 2:41 PM, spencer@... wrote: |
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the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i use small steps with a single click of the hotkey for an axis and use shift to do a fast move. not very often but occasionally the machine just runs totallyout of control in the jog direction and breaks a carbide bit. i have changed keyboards and am pretty sure it is not a sticky key. will try yet another one.
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i have a couple of? pendants but nothing great. maybe i should resurrect one of them including one that i made in arduino that sends keyboard commands to the pc and can not stick. or is there a really good simple pendant that will get my jogging under control? i am installing mach4 and if i make a few changes there is really little customization i? need. On 3/26/2021 11:50 AM, shadowairport1 wrote:
What is your machine doing? Are you running faster then before? Maybe a loose wire? I have used Mach 3 sense it was master CNC and can’t see a reason to change. If your having problem with you machine with Mach 3 it is reasonable to believe the same will be true with mach4.On Mar 26, 2021, at 2:41 PM, spencer@... wrote: --
Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:59:56 -0700, you wrote:
the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i useI have the same problem since I fitted ESS a month or two ago to my Mach3 setup. It happens when I use the high speed jog (Shift Up,Down, Left, Right,PgUp, PgDn). So far it has only happened on the X axis. I thought it might be something like a buffer over-run since it only seemed to happen when I was doing a longish jog. I reduced the repeat key speed on my keyboard to the lowest setting but it still happens on occasion. Thankfully so far no damage has been done since EStop and the limit switches still operate and it normally happens when I'm setting things up when the cutter is raised above the work. I've dug around a bit on the Internet to see if someone else has the same problem, but no luck so far. Jim. |
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so why are we the only lucky ones. i have broken two $20 new router bits so far.
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On 3/26/2021 1:24 PM, Jim Guthrie wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:59:56 -0700, you wrote:the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i useI have the same problem since I fitted ESS a month or two ago to my Mach3 --
Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
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Is it possible that you have the Kernel speed HZ set to high?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@... Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? so why are we the only lucky ones. i have broken two $20 new router bits so far. On 3/26/2021 1:24 PM, Jim Guthrie wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:59:56 -0700, you wrote:--the most annoying thing is that when jogging with the keyboard i useI have the same problem since I fitted ESS a month or two ago to my Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. |
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What is too high and what if any are the implications of a lower kernel speed?
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On March 26, 2021 6:43:05 PM PDT, shadowairport1 <dclifton2@...> wrote: Is it possible that you have the Kernel speed HZ set to high? --
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What is too high and what if any are the implications of a lower kernel speed?
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On March 26, 2021 6:43:05 PM PDT, shadowairport1 <dclifton2@...> wrote: Is it possible that you have the Kernel speed HZ set to high? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. --
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开云体育thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature"
that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will
check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the
default but this computer? On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@...
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Windows Sticky Keys -- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育The reality is the change from WIN-XP to WIN-VISTA cost the world millions of dollars in lost productivity. ?The next good OS was WIN-7.? The cost to change WIN-10 might well tally in the billions.? For me, new versions of software that will run on WIN-10 but no longer run on the now discontinued unsupported WIN-7 tally close to $10K.? For no apparent benefit. ? For example.? I have support for a few more months for RAD Studio Delphi and C++. Version 10.3 runs on WIN-7. ?But 10.4 and the new 10.4.2 won't.?? So my support is worthless for my WIN-7 system.? My WIN-10 runs it but it keeps updating with newer WIN-10 versions installing stuff I've removed.? And I won't even begin to talk about cloud stuff. ? So be aware, you may remove that repeat key feature but on the next update it will be back. ? John ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: March-26-21 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? ? thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer? On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育You may not want, but some do.? The disabled can just sod off I guess, how dare they try to use computers like us normals. ? Tony ? (Computer bloat is defined as the stuff I’ve no use for.) ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? ? thanks i should have guessed it was some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants. Should i sue Gates for the broken bits? will check to see if it is turned on. as far as i know off is the default but this computer? On 3/26/2021 9:26 PM, cimdave@... wrote:
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育i sure understand, i am an old guy programming since the 70s.
other than a little C forced by programming arduinos, i have not
learned much in the last 10 years. i have written literally
hundreds of programs that i fortunately and just by plain luck
relied on a system that supported all the fucking changes foisted
on us by microsoft. i share these programs mainly with fellow
music collectors of a particular type. i have done (don't laugh)
virtually all of my programming in Perl which has an amazing
number of open source packages. i use a tool that packages my perl
scripts along with the perl interpreter into an exe that will run
on virtually any PC. support is gone but all my programs still
work and if i keep the old IDE working (it works on win 10 64 bit)
and don't try to update anything it all still works. when it stops
i will have to abandon support for 99% of my "customers" microsoft
has threatened to stop allowing these exes to run but hasn't if
they do there will always be perl (it is still used extensively on
servers for all sorts of utility functions) but users will have to
do a lot more work than running an exe. my programs still run on xp through win 10, just by luck. i will die before i write a cloud app but i am doing some wifi web shit because people want to control my arduino programs from their phone? once i got mach3 "working" i never updated anything windows drivers etc unless forced to. if the bit breaking is really just because smart key or whatever
the fuck it is i will probably not switch to mach4 although
learning how to get if sort of working might be useful when win 11
doesn't support mach3 anymore :) i am rapidly losing my ability to
program because i am dealing with stage 4 cancer and some heavy
duty drugs that really mess with my attention. that is why i asked
for help with customizations. things that used to be real easy are
a challenge now but i refuse to take to the couch and give up. i
always joked that i would write a boot time program that if i
could not pass the test would shoot me in the head. might be time
to take that seriously. my machine computers are offline and stripped to the core. every
unnecessary (that is more difficult to figure out with win 10)
service is disabled and there is nothing at all in startup. still
apply a lot of the suggestions in the old mach3 guide as to how to
set up your computer. On 3/26/2021 11:07 PM, John Dammeyer
wrote:
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育i am all in favor of support of the greatest variety of users. i forget what microsoft call it but features for people with different needs get my full support. just don't make them the default. "handicapped" people are more resourceful than non "handicapped" people (by necessity) and can certainly find what they need if these features are made available to them I have been making machines for blind people to use because the
company i work for hires "handicapped" people. I find it very
rewarding to get to understand the perspective and needs of a
person that are very different from mine. My last project was a
bobbin winding machine that talks. It is still being used by
sighted people but I will soon get feedback as to whether I did a
good job or not. To me, the joy of being a human being is that we are all
different and can enjoy and benefit from these differences. On 3/26/2021 11:28 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育Learn to use Regedit. You can script things and then create desktop shortcuts to blow
out and rearrange things as desired. ptegler On 3/27/2021 2:07 AM, John Dammeyer
wrote:
-- Paul Tegler ptegler@... |
开云体育Funny, you said sticky keys was “some stupid windows "feature" that no one wants”. ? Huh. ? “No, no, some of my best friends are…” ? I’d rather Microsoft focus on that rather than cater to the handful of dumb-arses trying to run CNC on Windows.? Imagine going to a major CNC manufacturer and asking for a Win10 version, the look they’d give you would be implying that your IQ just managed to crawl out of the freezer. ? There are plenty of cheap dedicated CNC controls these days, buy one and get on with life.? I did.? (Smoothieware boards for the 3D printer, laser, mill & lathe if anyone cares.) ? I gave up on Mach after a discussion with the developers who didn’t understand why installing into C:\Mach4 wasn’t the brightest of ideas; that showed they didn’t really get how Windows works. ? Tony ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 5:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? ? i am all in favor of support of the greatest variety of users. i forget what microsoft call it but features for people with different needs get my full support. just don't make them the default. "handicapped" people are more resourceful than non "handicapped" people (by necessity) and can certainly find what they need if these features are made available to them I have been making machines for blind people to use because the company i work for hires "handicapped" people. I find it very rewarding to get to understand the perspective and needs of a person that are very different from mine. My last project was a bobbin winding machine that talks. It is still being used by sighted people but I will soon get feedback as to whether I did a good job or not. To me, the joy of being a human being is that we are all different and can enjoy and benefit from these differences. On 3/26/2021 11:28 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309 |
开云体育The problem is I don't what I don't know and therefore don't know how to remove it. So what's a library view? What's a repeat drive displays via wow64 Don't use Cortana and xbox. ? John ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Tegler via groups.io
Sent: March-27-21 5:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? ? Learn to use Regedit. You can script things and then create desktop shortcuts to blow out and rearrange things as desired. ptegler On 3/27/2021 2:07 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:
-- Paul Tegler ptegler@...? |
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John, I don't actually use my PC's for CNC, but I also don't use Cortana and X-box. Unfortunately, you can't uninstall them. At least not normally. I belive he's saying you can get rid of them using Regedit, which is the Windows Registry Editor.? If so, I'd certainly be interested in finding out how to do it. Odds of my using a PC for CNC are somewhere between slim and none, but I'd really like to eliminate some of the crap I don't like in Windows 10. And I can't seem to learn enough about Linux to get to where I was with Windows a couple of decades ago. Though I have lost a lot of that from disuse.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Saturday, March 27, 2021, 02:06:44 PM CDT, John Dammeyer <johnd@...> wrote:
The problem is I don't what I don't know and therefore don't know how to remove it. So what's a library view? What's a repeat drive displays via wow64 Don't use Cortana and xbox. ? John ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Tegler via groups.io
Sent: March-27-21 5:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MachCNC] help with customizations ? ? Learn to use Regedit. You can script things and then create desktop shortcuts to blow out and rearrange things as desired. ptegler On 3/27/2021 2:07 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:
-- Paul Tegler ptegler@...? |
Bill in OKC too