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Art
 

Hi All:

Well, whata we got this week....(I'm now keeping a better filing system so
I'll list from my copius notes...

1) Close file button added.
2) Reload last session file button..
3) BackLash error fixed. (Thanks Isak)
4) Rutex stability in PID variable readouts.
5) CV-OFF LED OEM function is added (OEM #56)
6) Not pressing enter when entering a jog incr will no longer cause a 0 to
be entered. (Which was crashing the program)
7) Index signal is now debounced to eliminate spurious noise. This means the
width of a spindle index must be equal to your interrupt period * Debounce
interval before it is assumed to be valid.
8) Dwell G04 may be in milliseconds or seconds. Selected on the logic
screen. Small bug to be fixed for next version is that you must restart
program after changing this value.

Thanks,
Good luck, (Special driver has been updated for it as well.)
Art
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Steve Blackmore
 

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:27:39 -0300, you wrote:

7) Index signal is now debounced to eliminate spurious noise. This means the
width of a spindle index must be equal to your interrupt period * Debounce
interval before it is assumed to be valid.
Hi Art - thanks for that, can you explain what you mean here and where
you set it?

If it's the same as microswitch debounce interval on logic screen, are
the values for spindle going to suit switches?

--
Steve Blackmore


James Cullins
 

Good man Art !
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Art" <fenerty@...>
To: <mach1mach2cnc@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Version 1.003 online...


Hi All:

Well, whata we got this week....(I'm now keeping a better filing system so
I'll list from my copius notes...

1) Close file button added.
2) Reload last session file button..
3) BackLash error fixed. (Thanks Isak)
4) Rutex stability in PID variable readouts.
5) CV-OFF LED OEM function is added (OEM #56)
6) Not pressing enter when entering a jog incr will no longer cause a 0 to
be entered. (Which was crashing the program)
7) Index signal is now debounced to eliminate spurious noise. This means
the
width of a spindle index must be equal to your interrupt period * Debounce
interval before it is assumed to be valid.
8) Dwell G04 may be in milliseconds or seconds. Selected on the logic
screen. Small bug to be fixed for next version is that you must restart
program after changing this value.

Thanks,
Good luck, (Special driver has been updated for it as well.)
Art
Art
www.artofcnc.ca




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cnc_user
 

Hi Art;
Dwell option doesn't appear in my logic tab dialog box.
Only word Units is present on my machine.

Looking good
Bob Harvey

--------- snip ----------

8) Dwell G04 may be in milliseconds or seconds. Selected on the logic
screen. Small bug to be fixed for next version is that you must restart
program after changing this value.


cnc_user
 

Hi Art;

Must be going blind. Looked at wrong place in dialog box.

My Bad

Bob Harvey

Hi Art;
Dwell option doesn't appear in my logic tab dialog box.
Only word Units is present on my machine.


Art
 

Steve:

The debounce inetrval now applied to the index pulse. This means that when
the index sigmal goes active, it must stay active for the number of debounce
cycles. Lets say your dedounce is set to 20, this means that any signal,
including the index signal, must be active for at least 20 interrupts or it
will be ignored.
So, if your using 25Khz, then one interrupt is 40us and times 20 is 800us,
so the width of the index pulse must be at least 800us to be recognised.
This should elimiinate any noise or reflections from triggering it.
If you have a 1ms pulse width, then it should read fine.
I think I will have to give you a separate debounce interval for just
the spindle beacuse the width of the pulse will, of course, vary with the
RPM of the spindle. This means at high speeds, you may not read the index at
all if the debounce is too high.

I'd be interested in what your spindle RPM now reads and if its more stable.
Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Art
 

Art:

Still in development, so at this point, it simply reads the PID values
(the pots) and displays the current pot reading. This is only valid if your
using the Rutex motherboard and have the SPI jumpers installed.

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Art
 

Bob:

Its on the logic tab just above the setting for which editor you use. Its
a checkbox that says "Use Milliseconds for Dwell G04 Command"

It shoudl be there, make sure that 1.003 loaded properly, check help about
to make sure...

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Arturo Moises
 

Well you sound like you have been busy!
Art I am working on this machine and I am using the remnants, some Rutex R990 s I had left over, these things work great! I am able to play with them like never before!, how does the Rutex settings work?
Arturo

----- Original Message -----
From: Art
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Version 1.003 online...


Hi All:

Well, whata we got this week....(I'm now keeping a better filing system so
I'll list from my copius notes...

1) Close file button added.
2) Reload last session file button..
3) BackLash error fixed. (Thanks Isak)
4) Rutex stability in PID variable readouts.
5) CV-OFF LED OEM function is added (OEM #56)
6) Not pressing enter when entering a jog incr will no longer cause a 0 to
be entered. (Which was crashing the program)
7) Index signal is now debounced to eliminate spurious noise. This means the
width of a spindle index must be equal to your interrupt period * Debounce
interval before it is assumed to be valid.
8) Dwell G04 may be in milliseconds or seconds. Selected on the logic
screen. Small bug to be fixed for next version is that you must restart
program after changing this value.

Thanks,
Good luck, (Special driver has been updated for it as well.)
Art
Art
www.artofcnc.ca




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Arturo Moises
 

I mean the Rutex settings motor tuning with Mach2.
Arturo

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:52 PM
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Well you sound like you have been busy!
Art I am working on this machine and I am using the remnants, some Rutex R990 s I had left over, these things work great! I am able to play with them like never before!, how does the Rutex settings work?
Arturo

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From: Art
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Version 1.003 online...


Hi All:

Well, whata we got this week....(I'm now keeping a better filing system so
I'll list from my copius notes...

1) Close file button added.
2) Reload last session file button..
3) BackLash error fixed. (Thanks Isak)
4) Rutex stability in PID variable readouts.
5) CV-OFF LED OEM function is added (OEM #56)
6) Not pressing enter when entering a jog incr will no longer cause a 0 to
be entered. (Which was crashing the program)
7) Index signal is now debounced to eliminate spurious noise. This means the
width of a spindle index must be equal to your interrupt period * Debounce
interval before it is assumed to be valid.
8) Dwell G04 may be in milliseconds or seconds. Selected on the logic
screen. Small bug to be fixed for next version is that you must restart
program after changing this value.

Thanks,
Good luck, (Special driver has been updated for it as well.)
Art
Art
www.artofcnc.ca




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Arturo Moises
 

Great!

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Art:

Still in development, so at this point, it simply reads the PID values
(the pots) and displays the current pot reading. This is only valid if your
using the Rutex motherboard and have the SPI jumpers installed.

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca




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Steve Blackmore
 

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:02:58 -0300, you wrote:


I think I will have to give you a separate debounce interval for just
the spindle beacuse the width of the pulse will, of course, vary with the
RPM of the spindle. This means at high speeds, you may not read the index at
all if the debounce is too high.
Definitely needed, I need 300 for switches, spindle won't run properly
at 100 - it halves actual rpm!

I'd be interested in what your spindle RPM now reads and if its more stable.
Not brilliant news :(

All tests at 400rpm

Debounce 20 50 50 100
Normal Spin count 3495 3492 3541 failed
Current Spin count 7339 5124 5836
Adder 3344 1966 1846

Adder is still counting millions for ages after spindle starts and
there is a distinctive jump in X & Z axis as it stops counting and
then decides to move in for cut.

Z moves are not smooth and it is only half way through a 10mm long
thread that feed is consistent.

Displayed spindle rpm is much smoother, but I think there is still
something wrong somewhere.

Spindle speed is not changing throughout all this but Mach2 seems to
be displaying or "sensing" a slight slowdown,as Z axis moves, my tacho
says it's not?

--
Steve Blackmore


Art
 

Steve:

Well, the adder values are correct for the sensed speeds, but the sensed
speeds are still screwed up. I will redo this section, hopefully tonight,
and see what can be done. Separate debounce setting for index is obviously a
must and will be added immediately. I will try to simulate this problem and
see what happens. I'll set up a step/dir control on my spindle output to see
if I can make these same values happen..

I'll let you know, Thanks for the tests, I think we're slowly getting
there...
Art
www.artofcnc.ca


 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Art <fenerty@a...> wrote:
<snip>
I will redo this section, hopefully tonight,
and see what can be done. Separate debounce setting for index is
obviously a
must and will be added immediately. I will try to simulate this
problem and
see what happens. I'll set up a step/dir control on my spindle
output to see
if I can make these same values happen..
<snip>

I will have a step/dir spindle on Monday (with luck) - you may have
got success by then but if not then another set of results might
help!

John Prentice


Art
 

Thanks John:

It may indeed.

Art
www.artofcnc.ca


John Guenther
 

Art,

Not meaning to sound stupid, but what is a step and direction spindle? I
may have missed something is a message over the past couple of weeks or so.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia

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Thanks John:

It may indeed.

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Robert Campbell
 

John,

It is a method for controlling the speed of a spindle through Mach2. My
partner Jim Cullins is working a special PC board to use with Mach2.

Bob Campbell

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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:19 PM
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Art,

Not meaning to sound stupid, but what is a step and direction spindle? I
may have missed something is a message over the past couple of weeks or
so.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia

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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 17:04 PM
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Thanks John:

It may indeed.

Art
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Art
 

Step/Dir spindle sends out a scaled constant step/dir pulse to control the
speed of the spindle. It is ramped up and down just like a motor. The
thought was I could use a Gecko320 and a 1-2HP servo motor as a Lathe
spindle motor. Not only could I get a very low speed, but I could do 3d
images on the lathe by moving the spindle as a controlled axis for 3d work.
I will eventually get there some day. (I even have the Gecko320 waiting for
it.)

Art
www.artofcnc.ca


Steve Blackmore
 

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:25:35 -0300, you wrote:

Well, the adder values are correct for the sensed speeds, but the sensed
speeds are still screwed up. I will redo this section, hopefully tonight,
and see what can be done. Separate debounce setting for index is obviously a
must and will be added immediately. I will try to simulate this problem and
see what happens. I'll set up a step/dir control on my spindle output to see
if I can make these same values happen..

I'll let you know, Thanks for the tests, I think we're slowly getting
there...
Thanks Art, I'm thinking I should spend more time getting PWM linear
<G>.
--
Steve Blackmore


John Guenther
 

Art, Robert

Thanks, now I have one more thing to add to the list of things to buy.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 17:59
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Step/Dir spindle sends out a scaled constant step/dir pulse to control the
speed of the spindle. It is ramped up and down just like a motor. The
thought was I could use a Gecko320 and a 1-2HP servo motor as a Lathe
spindle motor. Not only could I get a very low speed, but I could do 3d
images on the lathe by moving the spindle as a controlled axis
for 3d work.
I will eventually get there some day. (I even have the Gecko320
waiting for
it.)

Art
www.artofcnc.ca





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