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It's been an interesting few days since we started discussing the matter. Lots of comments but nothing providing any hope of counting on the use of 3952kHz. We will, therefore be making some changes: 3953 will now be considered the lower limit of where we might wind up (MITN). (7233 for MACS) Since activity seems to be pretty high around our traditionally preferred frequencies, NCS will have to be in shack hunting for a clear frequency. Since the clear frequency is likely not to be anywhere near 3952kHz, it will be necessary to announce the frequency on the reflector. Given the tendency of someone to pop up on a frequency that is clear from 15 to 5 minutes before net time, there doesn't seem to be much point in posting it much ahead of 5 minutes before the hour. Tonight's MITN was a good example of this. If possible, an announcement may be made on 3953 (7233), but don't count on it, This sounds like a lot of complication and jumping around but, until somebody comes up with clear title to the frequencies we're used to, that's the way it's going to have to be Revised Preambles are attached. 73, Mike WB8TQZ

I left town this afternoon for Indiana to deal with some family issues. I’ll probably be back Thursday or Friday of this week. I need a net. control for Wednesday fifth of March 2025, for MITN and GLETN, please. Sincerely, Michael Shirey ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager for the Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net. GLETN starts on 3.952 KHz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST. /g/GLETN Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN, St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. 73'S KD8ZCM Sent from Proton Mail for iOS

I see I am to return from the Interop conference Thursday and not Friday so I can do my regularly scheduled MITN and GLETN nets this week- For KD8ZCM- Had at least 10 double order hash browns while in Florida! I was in heaven! JB

Monday MITN 3962. Alternate will be 3976. ND8W

With the resumption of Daylight Saving Time on Sunday March 9 MACS will be held at 1100 EDT. MITN will remain at 1900 EDT. I expect we will have to continue to look for and make allowance for interference on frequency. Net Controls are all pretty good about putting the info out on the reflector although, given the nature of the problem, it's probably a waste of time to do it more than about 5 minutes before net time. If possible, an announcement may be made on the published frequency for the actual one to be used. Mike WB8TQZ

I will be unavailable for 8RN MI/NCS/EAN on Tuesday due to other obligations in town. I expect to be on for MACS and MITN. 73, Mike WB8TQZ

MACS is now closed. 73. KD8GYI

7.233 is quiet at the moment- We will open there- Need a Staton to act as Internet rep in case any freq move is needed- My computer will not be on- JB

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KD8ZCN net control for MITN. I’m standing by on 3976 kHz. Sounds very clean possible a good run for tonight‘s session. Sincerely, Michael Shirey ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager for the Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net. GLETN starts on 3.952 KHz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST. /g/GLETN Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN, St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. 73'S KD8ZCM Sent from Proton Mail for iOS

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Friday MACS 7242 ND8W

Well, it's Monday. Joe's in the Bikini State, so no net. I looked here and zip. Then scrolled 3920 to 3960. Absolutely clear. Not a sound Then moved to 72325 and scrolled to 7260 and back to 7220. Chatter aplenty but no net. I would have gone to 60/4, but for me reception is always weak,and XMIT I can't be heard. KD8GYI

Per net control 3960 KHz for 27 February 2025 MITN net. Sincerely, Michael Shirey ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager for the Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net. GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST. /g/GLETN Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN, St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. 73'S KD8ZCM

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Stations to check in for the Michigan traffic net for 26 February 2025. I’m gonna open the net up on 3975 KHz. Sincerely, Michael Shirey ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager for the Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net. GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST. /g/GLETN Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN, St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. 73'S KD8ZCM

About a dozen or so nets I got on 3950 about 20 minutes before the net- here are my observations. I have heard the raucous noise they complain about when you call the net- and they really are having an ongoing qso. The splatter from above covers them up completely. The general comments- "the idiots are back again.." When you call "is the frequency in use?" on 3952, all they hear is something that resembles a loud thunder. No amount of filtering or i.f shift cleans it up. I've tried. By the time somebody comes up to complain on 3952- you're half way through the net. I heard ZCM just fly off the handle and engage them then with obscenities.. when the guy had a LEGITIMATE complaint. You say that you cannot hear them. I can. Very well. Maybe I have a better antenna.. I don't know. In my opinion- we've made an enemy. They will now engage you with your behavior. Mark called up higher on the band to avoid this the other day- there was incessant tuning up when I tried to pass traffic. I wonder where that was from.. I think that you have them so angry that they will chase you up and down the band to deliver paybacks. This kind of infighting among hams, obscenities, bad behavior.. is what kept me away from the microphone for a very long time. I don't need this kind of drama. I think that it is too late to make peace with these guys- you have one of the callsigns- maybe it is worth a try? If not, go ahead and fight it out among yourselves. I cannot participate with the MACS net under current circumstances. I'll just deliver DTN traffic myself if I have to. KB8PGW