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MITN Thu. 03-06 3.960 WD8USA NCS

 

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Now 7.233 (of course)

 

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MACS Thu. 03-06 7.232

 

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MACS NET. WRU

 


MITN Tue. 03-04 3.952.5

 

Seems like it might work
WB8TQZ


Re: MACS Tue. 03-04 7.237

 

Wish I could check in- leaving now for the State Interop Convention-?

Hear everyone on my MITN on Thursday night- JB

On Tuesday, March 4, 2025 at 09:59:20 AM EST, Mike and Laura Horn via groups.io <mikeandlaura83@...> wrote:


WB8TQZ


Re: MACS/MITN Revised Preambles and Operating Procedures

 

Having a station guard the primary freq and announcing any net move is an effective procedure as well-??

Also having to move as frequently as we do makes it difficult for us to grow the net participation by new comers or old hands-?

60 mtrs is a viable alternative and fairly quiet- Perhaps NCS should attempt to move there occasionally-?

Pre net time ,to me should be included in total net run time- Otherwise we are missing out on time spent in public services-?

It used to be so easy but now the plot thickens! JB

On Saturday, March 1, 2025 at 03:35:56 PM EST, Mike and Laura Horn via groups.io <mikeandlaura83@...> wrote:


The pre-net idea has merit. Maybe we'll find the frequency isn't available but at least can have an answer worked out before the official start time.
Having folks besides Net Control listening at least a few minutes early should help, too.
On MITN, if I have traffic and the Receiving Station is on frequency, I'll move it before the posted starting time. As good a way as any to hold a frequency.
It's nice to think about accommodating as many people as possible but I've recently confirmed that you can't please everyone. Folks are just going to have to be responsible for their own timekeeping and checking the reflector. I know that flies in the face of "how you'd do it if you had no other comms" but that's not the world we live in right now. Besides, if there really were no other comms available, there likely wouldn't be about 80% of the interference we're experiencing since they probably wouldn't have power either.
73,
Mike WB8TQZ

On Tuesday, February 25th, 2025 at 10:50 PM, KD8ZCM - Michael Shirey via groups.io <Kd8zcm@...> wrote:

Mike , thank you very much for the update on what the plan is going forward and I will agree as well.

What I would like to do is to make a special request of, since net. controls are in charge of, and conducts the nets and an appropriate manner.

It would also be appropriate for stations, that wish to check in, and to get an idea what is going on? To check the band or new designated frequency of 3.953 KCs themselves about five or 10 minutes before the net starts, and not to arrive at 7:00, 7:01 or 7:03. Reason I say this is because we have one or two stations that do come in on short time like what happened this past Sunday night.

Also, in case we have to move the Net. It¡¯s nice to know that stations are at least standing by on a frequency and they can QSY when the net. control makes that request. Because the last thing I wanna do is leave some stations behind on another frequency ¡° Well, there was nobody there. There was no net¡± and because they were probably a station that got there a few minutes after the net started.

Now I know there¡¯s a lot of people that doesn¡¯t believe in pre-nets. And that¡¯s fine but. With the way, the band has been acting the last few years, These solar/sun cycles that we¡¯ve been having. We need to adapt with the changes. Which means we can¡¯t fire the radio up start talking and be on our way. A little extra work. That¡¯s all I¡¯m asking and lastly, I think each you ever one for the check-ins and the net controls that make it happen. Keep up the great work.



On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 19:40 Mike and Laura Horn via <mikeandlaura83=[email protected]> wrote:
It's been an interesting few days since we started discussing the matter. Lots of comments but nothing providing any hope of counting on the use of 3952kHz. We will, therefore be making some changes:
3953 will now be considered the lower limit of where we might wind up (MITN). (7233 for MACS)
Since activity seems to be pretty high around our traditionally preferred frequencies, NCS will have to be in shack hunting for a clear frequency.
Since the clear frequency is likely not to be anywhere near 3952kHz, it will be necessary to announce the frequency on the reflector.
Given the tendency of someone to pop up on a frequency that is clear from 15 to 5 minutes before net time, there doesn't seem to be much point in posting it much ahead of 5 minutes before the hour. Tonight's MITN was a good example of this.
If possible, an announcement may be made on 3953 (7233), but don't count on it,
This sounds like a lot of complication and jumping around but, until somebody comes up with clear title to the frequencies we're used to, that's the way it's going to have to be

Revised Preambles are attached.

73,
Mike WB8TQZ



MACS Tue. 03-04 7.237

 

WB8TQZ


Net control for five March 2025

 


?I left town this afternoon for Indiana to deal with some family issues.

?I¡¯ll probably be back Thursday or Friday of this week. I need a net. control for Wednesday fifth of March 2025, for MITN and GLETN, please.?


Sincerely,? Michael Shirey? ??

ARRL?Official Relay Station?and NET.?Manager?
for the?Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.?
GLETN starts on 3.952 KHz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.

Assistant?Net?Manager?for MACS/MITN,??

St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator?
and?NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter?for?NWS-IWX.
?
73'S KD8ZCM??



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My Nets This Week-

 

I see I am to return from the Interop conference Thursday and not Friday so I can do my regularly scheduled MITN and GLETN nets this week-?

For KD8ZCM- Had at least 10 double order hash browns while in Florida! I was in heaven!? JB?


Monday MITN 3962

 

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Monday MITN 3962.? Alternate will be 3976.

ND8W


Daylight Saving Time

 

With the resumption of Daylight Saving Time on Sunday March 9 MACS will be held at 1100 EDT. MITN will remain at 1900 EDT. I expect we will have to continue to look for and make allowance for interference on frequency. Net Controls are all pretty good about putting the info out on the reflector although, given the nature of the problem, it's probably a waste of time to do it more than about 5 minutes before net time. If possible, an announcement may be made on the published frequency for the actual one to be used.
Mike WB8TQZ


WB8TQZ 8RN/EAN Tue. 03-04

 

I will be unavailable for 8RN MI/NCS/EAN on Tuesday due to other obligations in town.
I expect to be on for MACS and MITN.
73,
Mike WB8TQZ


Net closed

 

MACS is now closed. 73.

KD8GYI


7.233 LSB

 

7.233 is quiet at the moment- We will open there- Need a Staton to act as Internet rep in case any freq move is needed- My computer will not? be on- JB


Re: MACS Sun. 03-02 7.240

 

Leaving today to fly back to Mi- Will hear you perhaps tonight or for sure on MACS tomorrow-?

Then I leave for the MI Interop conference in Muskegon on Tuesday thru? Thursday returning to my regular net schedule on Friday- JB

On Sunday, March 2, 2025 at 09:55:21 AM EST, Mike and Laura Horn via groups.io <mikeandlaura83@...> wrote:


WB8TQZ


MACS Sun. 03-02 7.240

 

WB8TQZ


1, March 2025 MITN 3976 kHz

 

KD8ZCN net control for MITN. I¡¯m standing by on 3976 kHz. Sounds very clean possible a good run for tonight¡®s session.

Sincerely,? Michael Shirey? ??

ARRL?Official Relay Station?and NET.?Manager?
for the?Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.?
GLETN starts on 3.952 KHz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.

Assistant?Net?Manager?for MACS/MITN,??

St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator?
and?NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter?for?NWS-IWX.
?
73'S KD8ZCM??



Sent from for iOS


Re: MACS/MITN Revised Preambles and Operating Procedures

 

The pre-net idea has merit. Maybe we'll find the frequency isn't available but at least can have an answer worked out before the official start time.
Having folks besides Net Control listening at least a few minutes early should help, too.
On MITN, if I have traffic and the Receiving Station is on frequency, I'll move it before the posted starting time. As good a way as any to hold a frequency.
It's nice to think about accommodating as many people as possible but I've recently confirmed that you can't please everyone. Folks are just going to have to be responsible for their own timekeeping and checking the reflector. I know that flies in the face of "how you'd do it if you had no other comms" but that's not the world we live in right now. Besides, if there really were no other comms available, there likely wouldn't be about 80% of the interference we're experiencing since they probably wouldn't have power either.
73,
Mike WB8TQZ

On Tuesday, February 25th, 2025 at 10:50 PM, KD8ZCM - Michael Shirey via groups.io <Kd8zcm@...> wrote:

Mike , thank you very much for the update on what the plan is going forward and I will agree as well.

What I would like to do is to make a special request of, since net. controls are in charge of, and conducts the nets and an appropriate manner.

It would also be appropriate for stations, that wish to check in, and to get an idea what is going on? To check the band or new designated frequency of 3.953 KCs themselves about five or 10 minutes before the net starts, and not to arrive at 7:00, 7:01 or 7:03. Reason I say this is because we have one or two stations that do come in on short time like what happened this past Sunday night.

Also, in case we have to move the Net. It¡¯s nice to know that stations are at least standing by on a frequency and they can QSY when the net. control makes that request. Because the last thing I wanna do is leave some stations behind on another frequency ¡° Well, there was nobody there. There was no net¡± and because they were probably a station that got there a few minutes after the net started.

Now I know there¡¯s a lot of people that doesn¡¯t believe in pre-nets. And that¡¯s fine but. With the way, the band has been acting the last few years, These solar/sun cycles that we¡¯ve been having. We need to adapt with the changes. Which means we can¡¯t fire the radio up start talking and be on our way. A little extra work. That¡¯s all I¡¯m asking and lastly, I think each you ever one for the check-ins and the net controls that make it happen. Keep up the great work.



On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 19:40 Mike and Laura Horn via <mikeandlaura83=[email protected]> wrote:
It's been an interesting few days since we started discussing the matter. Lots of comments but nothing providing any hope of counting on the use of 3952kHz. We will, therefore be making some changes:
3953 will now be considered the lower limit of where we might wind up (MITN). (7233 for MACS)
Since activity seems to be pretty high around our traditionally preferred frequencies, NCS will have to be in shack hunting for a clear frequency.
Since the clear frequency is likely not to be anywhere near 3952kHz, it will be necessary to announce the frequency on the reflector.
Given the tendency of someone to pop up on a frequency that is clear from 15 to 5 minutes before net time, there doesn't seem to be much point in posting it much ahead of 5 minutes before the hour. Tonight's MITN was a good example of this.
If possible, an announcement may be made on 3953 (7233), but don't count on it,
This sounds like a lot of complication and jumping around but, until somebody comes up with clear title to the frequencies we're used to, that's the way it's going to have to be

Revised Preambles are attached.

73,
Mike WB8TQZ



MACS Sat. 03-01 7.234

 

WB8TQZ