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Yes, I think we've created enemies only by virtue?of impeding on their bandwidth, given the longer conditions typical on 75 meters this time of year. If they are already conducting net operations before we get there... and it sounds like they are... than I
would like to see us move away from 3952. I have taken the net to 3960/3962/3965 in the recent past.? Even though there may be a troublemaker who wants to reserve that bandwidth as his own personal property (even though he's not actually using the frequency)
I've found it to be a significant improvement.?
ND8W
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About a dozen or so nets I got on 3950 about 20 minutes before the net- here are my observations.
I have heard the raucous noise they complain about when you call the net- and they really are having an ongoing qso.? The splatter from above covers them up completely.
The general comments- "the idiots are back again.."??
When you call "is the frequency in use?" on 3952, all they hear is something that resembles a loud thunder.? No amount of filtering or i.f shift cleans it up. I've tried.? By the time somebody comes up to complain on 3952- you're half way through the net.?
I heard ZCM just fly off the handle and engage them then with obscenities.. when the guy had a LEGITIMATE complaint.
You say that you cannot hear them.? I can.? Very well.? Maybe I have a better antenna.. I don't know.??
In my opinion- we've made an enemy.? They will now engage you with your behavior.? Mark called up higher on the band to avoid this the other day- there was incessant tuning up when I tried to pass traffic.? I wonder where that was from..
I think that you have them so angry that they will chase you up and down the band to deliver paybacks.?
This kind of infighting among hams, obscenities, bad behavior.. is what kept me away from the microphone for a very long time.? I don't need this kind of drama.??
I think that it is too late to make peace with these guys- you have one of the callsigns- maybe it is worth a try?
If not, go ahead and fight it out among yourselves.? I cannot participate with the MACS net under current circumstances.? I'll just deliver DTN traffic myself if I have to.
KB8PGW
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About a dozen or so nets I got on 3950 about 20 minutes before the net- here are my observations.
I have heard the raucous noise they complain about when you call the net- and they really are having an ongoing qso.? The splatter from above covers them up completely.
The general comments- "the idiots are back again.."??
When you call "is the frequency in use?" on 3952, all they hear is something that resembles a loud thunder.? No amount of filtering or i.f shift cleans it up. I've tried.? By the time somebody comes up to complain on 3952- you're half way through the net.?
I heard ZCM just fly off the handle and engage them then with obscenities.. when the guy had a LEGITIMATE complaint.
You say that you cannot hear them.? I can.? Very well.? Maybe I have a better antenna.. I don't know.??
In my opinion- we've made an enemy.? They will now engage you with your behavior.? Mark called up higher on the band to avoid this the other day- there was incessant tuning up when I tried to pass traffic.? I wonder where that was from..
I think that you have them so angry that they will chase you up and down the band to deliver paybacks.?
This kind of infighting among hams, obscenities, bad behavior.. is what kept me away from the microphone for a very long time.? I don't need this kind of drama.??
I think that it is too late to make peace with these guys- you have one of the callsigns- maybe it is worth a try?
If not, go ahead and fight it out among yourselves.? I cannot participate with the MACS net under current circumstances.? I'll just deliver DTN traffic myself if I have to.
KB8PGW
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As your assistant net manager, I agree 100%.
I am good for 645 in the p.m. Eastern standard.?
And yes, we have both been operated on both frequencies for a while but all of a sudden it’s been a problem. So yeah first come first serve let’s do it.
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 19:51, Mike and Laura Horn via groups.io < mikeandlaura83@...> wrote:
I had a thought tonight. I've had it before. How about we start at 1845 BEFORE they get going. That paragon of Amateur virtue rarely gives a call that I've been able to catch but his complaint is that somebody is contaminating their occupied frequency. Well, if it's first come, first serve, we could see how serious he is about that. Anybody up for it.
I think that maybe they've been there right along but we couldn't hear each other due to D-Layer absorption, just a guess on my part though.
Mike WB8TQZ
On Friday, February 21st, 2025 at 7:16 PM, KD8ZCM - Michael Shirey via groups.io <Kd8zcm@...> wrote:
WB8TQZ, you’re correct I’ve been out here many times at 10 or 15 minutes before the net and there’s nobody on 3950. And it’s the same old person that seems to be a crybaby. Nobody else comes in there except for the same guy. His call sign is NF4Z, and he’s the only one that complains.
And it sure hasn’t been a problem the last couple years it’s only been recently.
Sincerely, Michael Shirey
ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager
for the
Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.
GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.
Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN,
St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator
and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX.
73'S KD8ZCM
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I had a thought tonight. I've had it before. How about we start at 1845 BEFORE they get going. That paragon of Amateur virtue rarely gives a call that I've been able to catch but his complaint is that somebody is contaminating their occupied frequency. Well, if it's first come, first serve, we could see how serious he is about that. Anybody up for it.
I think that maybe they've been there right along but we couldn't hear each other due to D-Layer absorption, just a guess on my part though.
Mike WB8TQZ
On Friday, February 21st, 2025 at 7:16 PM, KD8ZCM - Michael Shirey via groups.io <Kd8zcm@...> wrote:
WB8TQZ, you’re correct I’ve been out here many times at 10 or 15 minutes before the net and there’s nobody on 3950. And it’s the same old person that seems to be a crybaby. Nobody else comes in there except for the same guy. His call sign is NF4Z, and he’s the only one that complains.
And it sure hasn’t been a problem the last couple years it’s only been recently.
Sincerely, Michael Shirey
ARRL Official Relay Station and NET. Manager for the Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net. GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.
Assistant Net Manager for MACS/MITN,
St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator and NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. 73'S KD8ZCM
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WB8TQZ, you’re correct I’ve been out here many times at ?10 or 15 minutes before the net and there’s nobody on 3950. And it’s the same old person that seems to be a crybaby. Nobody else comes in there except for the same guy. His call sign is NF4Z, and he’s the only one that complains.
And it sure hasn’t been a problem the last couple years it’s only been recently.
Sincerely,? Michael Shirey? ??
ARRL Official Relay Station?and NET.?Manager? for the?Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.? GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.
Assistant?Net?Manager?for MACS/MITN,??
St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator? and?NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. ? 73'S KD8ZCM??
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Not great but it might work WB8TQZ
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Near New Port Ritchie tonight- WX still? way too cold- Heading much further South tomorrow- The Keys I hear is warm- JB
I hope all is well there, and glad you're ok. Keep in touch.
Pete
My flight was indeed almost cancelled- as it was we didn't reach our destination until well after midnight!
On Monday, February 17, 2025 at 10:28:38 AM EST, Pete Hardin via <hardinpc= [email protected]> wrote:
I was surprised to see a note from Joe, but assumed his flight was cancelled. Oh well. Tomorrow is another day.
Pere
I was on 7233 at 10. Nobody. Called you Pete and Mark. Somebody was 7230 at first. I didn't see a message on the board although the computer was acting up.?
K8DLW
Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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I hope all is well there, and glad you're ok. Keep in touch.
Pete
My flight was indeed almost cancelled- as it was we didn't reach our destination until well after midnight!
On Monday, February 17, 2025 at 10:28:38 AM EST, Pete Hardin via <hardinpc= [email protected]> wrote:
I was surprised to see a note from Joe, but assumed his flight was cancelled. Oh well. Tomorrow is another day.
Pere
I was on 7233 at 10. Nobody. Called you Pete and Mark. Somebody was 7230 at first. I didn't see a message on the board although the computer was acting up.?
K8DLW
Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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My flight was indeed almost cancelled- as it was we didn't reach our destination until well after midnight!
I was surprised to see a note from Joe, but assumed his flight was cancelled. Oh well. Tomorrow is another day.
Pere
I was on 7233 at 10. Nobody. Called you Pete and Mark. Somebody was 7230 at first. I didn't see a message on the board although the computer was acting up.?
K8DLW
Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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Monday MITN 3958 to 3960 range.??
ND8W
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I was surprised to see a note from Joe, but assumed his flight was cancelled. Oh well. Tomorrow is another day.
Pere
I was on 7233 at 10. Nobody. Called you Pete and Mark. Somebody was 7230 at first. I didn't see a message on the board although the computer was acting up.?
K8DLW
Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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I was on 7233 at 10. Nobody. Called you Pete and Mark. Somebody was 7230 at first. I didn't see a message on the board although the computer was acting up.?
K8DLW
Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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Turned on 40 then saw Joe's note, so went to 3960. Called out, zip. Back to 49, scrolled up to 7251 and back down. Zip. Shut down 10:08.
Pete GYI
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Miss all- Arrived in Georgia yesterday and on to Florida this morning- Warm air bacons! JB
MITN 3960.00 kHz. 15 FEB2025
Sincerely,? Michael Shirey? ??
ARRL Official Relay Station?and NET.?Manager? for the?Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.? GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.
Assistant?Net?Manager?for MACS/MITN,??
St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator? and?NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. ? 73'S KD8ZCM??
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MITN 3.953 kHz
Sincerely,? Michael Shirey? ??
ARRL Official Relay Station?and NET.?Manager? for the?Great Lakes Emergency & Traffic Net.? GLETN starts on 3.952 KCz at 0000 UTC or 8:00 PM EST.
Assistant?Net?Manager?for MACS/MITN,??
St. Joseph County, Michigan Interim Emergency Coordinator? and?NET. Control - SKYWARN Spotter for NWS-IWX. ? 73'S KD8ZCM??
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Looks good for now. WB8TQZ
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ND8W
KD8ZCM backup account for Michael Shirey
KD8ZCM - Michael Shirey
Dave