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[Owner] [PhilosophicalM] Friday Fie June 14


 

"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste

Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.

Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.

Ed

On Saturday, June 15, 2024, a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=hawaii.rr.com@groups.io> wrote:
1.? The G7 decided to loan Ukraine 50 billion dollars to be paid back from frozen Russian assets this week- is this a good idea?
Yes, this seems very appropriate.

2.? Testa's stockholders agreed to pay Elon Musk up to 54 billion dollars in compensation as CEO this week - it's not clear to me is this is a one year deal or over multiple years - is this a good idea?
No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak.

3.? Did you learn anything interesting this week?
Yes, I learned that my right hip is at end state for osteoarthritis. I will be having hip replacement surgery next month.

4.? Did you do anything interesting this week?
I always do interesting stuff at work.

5.? Is the conflict in Gaza or Sudan more of a human tragedy?
I'm not sure I understand what the question is. If the question is which one is the bigger human tragedy then I don't see any sense in asking that. They are certainly both huge human tragedies, but the Gaza conflict has been going on much longer and there doesn't seem to be any way to end it.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers


 

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Ed,

Elon Musk is not Tesla's founder. Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors.

Aloha,
Celeste

On 6/15/2024 10:02 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:

"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste

Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.

Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.



 

Yes, it was originally just another electric motor manufacturer, just as IBM made time clocks.? And Thomas Watson did not found INM, but Musk was an early investor who transformed Tesla from a motor maker to the most successful global electric automaker, just as Watson transformed INM into a global powerhouse.? They both transformed their companies into global greatness.? IBM would otherwise have stayed as a minor niche manufacturer and Tesla would be just another motor maker.


On Saturday, June 15, 2024, a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote:
Ed,

Elon Musk is not Tesla's founder. Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors.

Aloha,
Celeste

On 6/15/2024 10:02 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste

Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.

Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.



 

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Anyone who thinks it is a bad deal is welcome to sell their stock or get another job!

Marvin:


"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste
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Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.
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Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.
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Ed
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On Saturday, June 15, 2024, a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=hawaii.rr.com@groups.io> wrote:

1.? The G7 decided to loan Ukraine 50 billion dollars to be paid back from frozen Russian assets this week- is this a good idea?
Yes, this seems very appropriate.
?
2.? Testa's stockholders agreed to pay Elon Musk up to 54 billion dollars in compensation as CEO this week - it's not clear to me is this is a one year deal or over multiple years - is this a good idea?
No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak.
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3.? Did you learn anything interesting this week?
Yes, I learned that my right hip is at end state for osteoarthritis. I will be having hip replacement surgery next month.
?
4.? Did you do anything interesting this week?
I always do interesting stuff at work.
?
5.? Is the conflict in Gaza or Sudan more of a human tragedy?
I'm not sure I understand what the question is. If the question is which one is the bigger human tragedy then I don't see any sense in asking that. They are certainly both huge human tragedies, but the Gaza conflict has been going on much longer and there doesn't seem to be any way to end it.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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From wikipedia article on the founding of Tesla: "A lawsuit settlement agreed to by Eberhard and Tesla in September 2009 allows all five (Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk and Straubel) to call themselves co-founders."


On Saturday, June 15, 2024, mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Anyone who thinks it is a bad deal is welcome to sell their stock or get another job!

Marvin:


"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste
?
Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.
?
Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.
?
Ed
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On Saturday, June 15, 2024, a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=hawaii.rr.com@groups.io> wrote:
1.? The G7 decided to loan Ukraine 50 billion dollars to be paid back from frozen Russian assets this week- is this a good idea?
Yes, this seems very appropriate.
?
2.? Testa's stockholders agreed to pay Elon Musk up to 54 billion dollars in compensation as CEO this week - it's not clear to me is this is a one year deal or over multiple years - is this a good idea?
No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak.
?
3.? Did you learn anything interesting this week?
Yes, I learned that my right hip is at end state for osteoarthritis. I will be having hip replacement surgery next month.
?
4.? Did you do anything interesting this week?
I always do interesting stuff at work.
?
5.? Is the conflict in Gaza or Sudan more of a human tragedy?
I'm not sure I understand what the question is. If the question is which one is the bigger human tragedy then I don't see any sense in asking that. They are certainly both huge human tragedies, but the Gaza conflict has been going on much longer and there doesn't seem to be any way to end it.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Ed,

Yes, so Musk certainly wasn't "the" founder.

Aloha,
Celeste

On 6/15/2024 2:25 PM, Ed Lomas wrote:

From wikipedia article on the founding of Tesla: "A lawsuit settlement agreed to by Eberhard and Tesla in September 2009 allows all five (Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk and Straubel) to call themselves co-founders."

On Saturday, June 15, 2024, Ed wrote:

"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste
?
Firing the company founder doesn't always work.?
After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company.
?
Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion.? Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs.
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