So, I've been doing more testing. I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier. I have Gemini set to Report the pier side I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West. Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini? I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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Neil,
Are you connecting using the ASCOM driver?? If so, open the Profile Explorer, go to Telescope Drivers, ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.Telescope, and confirm that the ReportPierSide value is set to True, as shown in this screenshot:
Best Regards,
Paul
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:01?AM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: So, I've been doing more testing. I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier. I have Gemini set to Report the pier side I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West. Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini? I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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I'm connecting using the Gemini.NET driver. The mount is already reporting the pier side, but it is reporting that its in the east when it is actually in the west. Now if i was in the northern hemisphere, that would be correct (i think).
Do you think I might be better off using the ASCOM driver instead?
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2024, 1:03?pm Paul Buckley via , <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote: Neil,
Are you connecting using the ASCOM driver?? If so, open the Profile Explorer, go to Telescope Drivers, ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.Telescope, and confirm that the ReportPierSide value is set to True, as shown in this screenshot:
Best Regards,
Paul
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:01?AM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: So, I've been doing more testing. I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier. I have Gemini set to Report the pier side I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West. Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini? I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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Neil,
I may be mistaken, but I believe that Gemini.net IS the ASCOM-based telescope driver. If you haven't already done so you might want to download the ASCOM platform (see? and look to the upper right for the Platform 7.0 Download button). It should provide you with?the previously-mentioned Explorer tool that gives you access to every communications parameter sent between the mount and the computer.? I bring this up because I had a similar issue where the PHD2 log showed that I was always East of pier even though N.I.N.A was clearly generating meridian flips.? It turned out to be that ReportPierSide was set to false in the Gemini.net driver, even though?I was quite sure that I had previously set Gemini to report it.? I wrote this off to a bad EEPROM configuration on the mount although admittedly, I never found the root cause of the issue and kept exploring until the problem was resolved.? I lost of few nights of observing because of it.
BTW I don't think North/South hemispheres would have anything?to do with this issue.
Best Regards,
Paul
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:53?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: I'm connecting using the Gemini.NET driver. The mount is already reporting the pier side, but it is reporting that its in the east when it is actually in the west. Now if i was in the northern hemisphere, that would be correct (i think).
Do you think I might be better off using the ASCOM driver instead?
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024, 1:03?pm Paul Buckley via , <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote: Neil,
Are you connecting using the ASCOM driver?? If so, open the Profile Explorer, go to Telescope Drivers, ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.Telescope, and confirm that the ReportPierSide value is set to True, as shown in this screenshot:
Best Regards,
Paul
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:01?AM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: So, I've been doing more testing. I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier. I have Gemini set to Report the pier side I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West. Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini? I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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Hi Neil, did you try to turn off Gemini Reports Side of Pier and see if that works any better?
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Regards,
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 04:01 AM, Neil Allison wrote:
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So, I've been doing more testing.
I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier.
I have Gemini set to Report the pier side
I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
?
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West.
Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini?
I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
?
--
Thanks and Best Regards
Neil
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Hi Paul
Report PierSide was set to False. I have now set it to True, reconnected to the mount and tried my tests again. The N.I.N.A logs are still showing SOP=pierEast even though the scope is on the West.
You say North/South hemisphere wouldn't?have anything to do with the issue, but if the mount were pointing to the north, then the scope would indeed be pierside East. So my thinking is that it believes it is in the northern hemisphere.
I have already tried switching off Gemini reporting the side of the pier and it made no difference.?
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 10:04?PM Paul Buckley via <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote: Neil,
I may be mistaken, but I believe that Gemini.net IS the ASCOM-based telescope driver. If you haven't already done so you might want to download the ASCOM platform (see? and look to the upper right for the Platform 7.0 Download button). It should provide you with?the previously-mentioned Explorer tool that gives you access to every communications parameter sent between the mount and the computer.? I bring this up because I had a similar issue where the PHD2 log showed that I was always East of pier even though N.I.N.A was clearly generating meridian flips.? It turned out to be that ReportPierSide was set to false in the Gemini.net driver, even though?I was quite sure that I had previously set Gemini to report it.? I wrote this off to a bad EEPROM configuration on the mount although admittedly, I never found the root cause of the issue and kept exploring until the problem was resolved.? I lost of few nights of observing because of it.
BTW I don't think North/South hemispheres would have anything?to do with this issue.
Best Regards,
Paul
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:53?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: I'm connecting using the Gemini.NET driver. The mount is already reporting the pier side, but it is reporting that its in the east when it is actually in the west. Now if i was in the northern hemisphere, that would be correct (i think).
Do you think I might be better off using the ASCOM driver instead?
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024, 1:03?pm Paul Buckley via , <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote: Neil,
Are you connecting using the ASCOM driver?? If so, open the Profile Explorer, go to Telescope Drivers, ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.Telescope, and confirm that the ReportPierSide value is set to True, as shown in this screenshot:
Best Regards,
Paul
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:01?AM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote: So, I've been doing more testing. I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier. I have Gemini set to Report the pier side I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West. Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini? I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
-- Thanks and Best Regards Neil
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Hi Neil,?
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Southern/Northern hemispheres are indeed different, and the calculation for side of pier is different based on this setting in the ASCOM driver. What I find strange is that when you turn off Gemini reporting of side of pier in the driver, you still get the wrong result. In that case, I assume NINA is doing the checking and not using ASCOM driver calculation.
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Regards,
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? ?-Paul
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 12:53 AM, Neil Allison wrote:
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Hi Paul
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Report PierSide was set to False.
I have now set it to True, reconnected to the mount and tried my tests again.
The N.I.N.A logs are still showing SOP=pierEast even though the scope is on the West.
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You say North/South hemisphere wouldn't?have anything to do with the issue, but if the mount were pointing to the north, then the scope would indeed be pierside East.
So my thinking is that it believes it is in the northern hemisphere.
?
I have already tried switching off Gemini reporting the side of the pier and it made no difference.?
?
--
Thanks and Best Regards
Neil
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 10:04?PM Paul Buckley via <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote:
Neil,
?
I may be mistaken, but I believe that Gemini.net IS the ASCOM-based telescope driver. If you haven't already done so you might want to download the ASCOM platform (see? and look to the upper right for the Platform 7.0 Download button). It should provide you with?the previously-mentioned Explorer tool that gives you access to every communications parameter sent between the mount and the computer.? I bring this up because I had a similar issue where the PHD2 log showed that I was always East of pier even though N.I.N.A was clearly generating meridian flips.? It turned out to be that ReportPierSide was set to false in the Gemini.net driver, even though?I was quite sure that I had previously set Gemini to report it.? I wrote this off to a bad EEPROM configuration on the mount although admittedly, I never found the root cause of the issue and kept exploring until the problem was resolved.? I lost of few nights of observing because of it.
?
BTW I don't think North/South hemispheres would have anything?to do with this issue.
?
Best Regards,
?
Paul
?
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 10:53?PM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote:
I'm connecting using the Gemini.NET driver.
The mount is already reporting the pier side, but it is reporting that its in the east when it is actually in the west.
Now if i was in the northern hemisphere, that would be correct (i think).
?
Do you think I might be better off using the ASCOM driver instead?
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024, 1:03?pm Paul Buckley via , <paulbuckley14059= [email protected]> wrote:
Neil,
?
Are you connecting using the ASCOM driver?? If so, open the Profile Explorer, go to Telescope Drivers, ASCOM.GeminiTelescope.Telescope, and confirm that the ReportPierSide value is set to True, as shown in this screenshot:
?
?
Best Regards,
?
Paul
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 4:01?AM Neil Allison via <nallison147= [email protected]> wrote:
So, I've been doing more testing.
I have N.I.N.A set to use telescope side of pier.
I have Gemini set to Report the pier side
I am imaging an object in the east (so the scope is Pier side west).
?
However, In my N.I.N.A logs, I see "True Telescope SOP=pierEast" when the scope is clearly pier side West.
Given I'm in the southern hemisphere, are there some settings I need to update in Gemini?
I use a GPS receiver to get the coordinates (which Gemini connects to) so it definitely knows where in the world it is.
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Thanks and Best Regards
Neil
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