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Moderated First clear night to try out my new G11T, I hope!


 



I am all set up and ready to go. For the last week, fires in California and Utah have made seeing anything an exercise in futility.?
Today, the skies have been blue, instead of brown, and the clouds are supposed to be few and far between. If seeing is decent
I hope to get some videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I made two attempts last week and weekend, but even stars directly overhead
were dim. Jupiter looked more like a giant Mars, with huge dust storms. I am hoping tonight will be great viewing and videoing.


 

Good luck Jeff!

that is a monster scope, hope it goes well

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 6:09 PM jeff marston <jeffmarston@...> wrote:


I am all set up and ready to go. For the last week, fires in California and Utah have made seeing anything an exercise in futility.?
Today, the skies have been blue, instead of brown, and the clouds are supposed to be few and far between. If seeing is decent
I hope to get some videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I made two attempts last week and weekend, but even stars directly overhead
were dim. Jupiter looked more like a giant Mars, with huge dust storms. I am hoping tonight will be great viewing and videoing.



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
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Wow.? Great setup.? I'm not used to seeing a Titan RA axis.??

A few things to?consider:

Be sure your knobs holding the tripod sections in place are quite tight.? My C14's weight was slowly collapsing one leg, though I was sure it was tight... and if I had not caught it...yikes.??

You are in a grassy area.? Be sure your tipod feet are on solid?ground, like large flagstones.??

If using an EdgeHD be aware the back focus is ideally 5.75 inches past the rear lens.? There is not much room for a filter wheel or ADC optic.? If you try to extend your camera focal plane out past that, you can end up with a coma problem.? The normal SCTs don't have this particular focal plane issue.? But (Newtonians with) a Baader MPC also have the similar back focus constraint (that one is 55mm).? ?The penalties of "coma free" can come at a price.??

(Where are you located? You hinted at Utah, but....)

Have fun!

Michael

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 6:09 PM jeff marston <jeffmarston@...> wrote:


I am all set up and ready to go. For the last week, fires in California and Utah have made seeing anything an exercise in futility.?
Today, the skies have been blue, instead of brown, and the clouds are supposed to be few and far between. If seeing is decent
I hope to get some videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I made two attempts last week and weekend, but even stars directly overhead
were dim. Jupiter looked more like a giant Mars, with huge dust storms. I am hoping tonight will be great viewing and videoing.


 

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Thanks, Brian. I think I have the worm gears set at a nice compromise, not too loose, not too noisy. My goal was to get a mount that was sturdier than my Celestron mount so I could do some autoguiding and imaging with my SCT's. I think I have the sturdier part taken care of. The C14/G11T combination is steadier than my CGX-L for visual. So far, so good!

Jeff


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian Valente <bvalente@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:09 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] First clear night to try out my new G11T, I hope!
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Good luck Jeff!

that is a monster scope, hope it goes well

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 6:09 PM jeff marston <jeffmarston@...> wrote:


I am all set up and ready to go. For the last week, fires in California and Utah have made seeing anything an exercise in futility.?
Today, the skies have been blue, instead of brown, and the clouds are supposed to be few and far between. If seeing is decent
I hope to get some videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I made two attempts last week and weekend, but even stars directly overhead
were dim. Jupiter looked more like a giant Mars, with huge dust storms. I am hoping tonight will be great viewing and videoing.



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


 

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Thanks, Michael. I have already experienced the collapsing leg thing. So far, the one thing I prefer about my CGX-L mount is the tripod legs can be locked with minimal effort. Last week when I mounted my C14 on my Losmandy mount for the first time, I kept wondering why the mount kept getting out of level. The legs were slipping and pushing into the grass. I have a 3/4 inch plywood square at the base of each leg in the photo. I am also cranking down those knobs tighter and almost sitting on the tripod to see if they are tight enough.

I have had my C14 edge for about a year and I have been using it more than?all my other scopes combined. It is big and awkward to move around but worth the effort, I think. I have been able?
to get some decent images of various things. When auto guiding was working well, and seeing was good, my C14 pulled out details and color that surprised me. It, kind of, hooked me on imaging
with the beast. The down side, is how much harder it is to make everything work well. Imaging with my little 80mm refractor seems effortless by comparison.

I am located in Salt Lake?City, Utah. My neighborhood is heavily light polluted, but an hour drive east or west gets me to, pretty decent, dark sites.?

I have been working on the back focus spacing. I need to find some way to vary the distance from my scope. I have been using Sony mirrorless full frame cameras, and they tend to expose any back focus errors, more than I would like.?

I always have fun, especially if I am away from my neighborhood in the desert to the west or mountains to the east. Getting out of town to do a great hobby can be a wonderful thing, especially
lately.?

If Losmandy was still making the Titan, I think I would have spent the extra cash just for extra stability while using my C14.?

Have a great evening, Michael, and thanks?for all the great information and help!

Jeff




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael Herman <mherman346@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:08 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] First clear night to try out my new G11T, I hope!
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Wow.? Great setup.? I'm not used to seeing a Titan RA axis.??

A few things to?consider:

Be sure your knobs holding the tripod sections in place are quite tight.? My C14's weight was slowly collapsing one leg, though I was sure it was tight... and if I had not caught it...yikes.??

You are in a grassy area.? Be sure your tipod feet are on solid?ground, like large flagstones.??

If using an EdgeHD be aware the back focus is ideally 5.75 inches past the rear lens.? There is not much room for a filter wheel or ADC optic.? If you try to extend your camera focal plane out past that, you can end up with a coma problem.? The normal SCTs don't have this particular focal plane issue.? But (Newtonians with) a Baader MPC also have the similar back focus constraint (that one is 55mm).? ?The penalties of "coma free" can come at a price.??

(Where are you located? You hinted at Utah, but....)

Have fun!

Michael

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 6:09 PM jeff marston <jeffmarston@...> wrote:


I am all set up and ready to go. For the last week, fires in California and Utah have made seeing anything an exercise in futility.?
Today, the skies have been blue, instead of brown, and the clouds are supposed to be few and far between. If seeing is decent
I hope to get some videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I made two attempts last week and weekend, but even stars directly overhead
were dim. Jupiter looked more like a giant Mars, with huge dust storms. I am hoping tonight will be great viewing and videoing.


 

Love the EdgeHD14!? ?Michael, how's yours?? I have a C14 project out in the garage waiting for me to align the new tube and optics. Can't wait to load it in the G11G saddle and grab an XL dose of photons.?
--

Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?


 
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It's very good, but beware of the 5.75 inch rear focal plane requirement.? You can go inside of that limit ok, but not past that else you get lots of coma and ...trouble.
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It's a heavy monster.? I'm getting old!
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[edited by moderator: personal references removed - PK]

All the best, and my best to your great family....
?
Michael
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 8:47 AM Chip Louie <chiplouie@...> wrote:

Love the EdgeHD14!? ?Michael, how's yours?? I have a C14 project out in the garage waiting for me to align the new tube and optics. Can't wait to load it in the G11G saddle and grab an XL dose of photons.?
--

Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?

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Edited

I apologize.
I'll drop out if this group now.
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Michael

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 11:38 AM Michael Herman via <mherman346=[email protected]> wrote:

It's very good, but beware of the 5.75 inch rear focal plane requirement.? You can go inside of that limit ok, but not past that else you get lots of coma and ...trouble.
?
It's a heavy monster.? I'm getting old!
?
[edited by moderator - personal references removed - PK]

All the best, and my best to your great family....
?
Michael
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 8:47 AM Chip Louie <chiplouie@...> wrote:
Love the EdgeHD14!? ?Michael, how's yours?? I have a C14 project out in the garage waiting for me to align the new tube and optics. Can't wait to load it in the G11G saddle and grab an XL dose of photons.?
--

Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?

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Hi Michael,

DO NOT DROP OUT!? I say stupid stuff all the time, ask anybody!?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?


 

Not this stupid.
Not rude...no need for this.
All the best to y'all.

Michael

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 11:47 AM Chip Louie <chiplouie@...> wrote:
Hi Michael,

DO NOT DROP OUT!? I say stupid stuff all the time, ask anybody!?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?


 

Michael

I concur with chip. The constitution guarantees we all have the right to be blithering idiots from time to time. Stay

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Louie <chiplouie@...>
To: Losmandy_users <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2020 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] First clear night to try out my new G11T, I hope!


Hi Michael,

DO NOT DROP OUT!? I say stupid stuff all the time, ask anybody!?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?


 

I wrote to Michael personally as well, but i'd like to say for the record that i also hope you stay,?Michael

It would be a loss for all of us if you left.?


I've said plenty of dumb things and was grateful for the feedback and corrections.? I hope we can all learn from each other


And if you're gonna talk smack about me, you gotta keep those threads separate ;)


Brian


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:58 PM crocco1250 via <crocco1250=[email protected]> wrote:
Michael

I concur with chip. The constitution guarantees we all have the right to be blithering idiots from time to time. Stay

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Louie <chiplouie@...>
To: Losmandy_users <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2020 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] First clear night to try out my new G11T, I hope!


Hi Michael,

DO NOT DROP OUT!? I say stupid stuff all the time, ask anybody!?

--

Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?



--
Brian?



Brian Valente
portfolio


 

Michael,?

Accidents happen, and you did apologize. There's no need to leave the group. I've edited out the archives to remove anything personal but please let me know if I missed anything.

Regards,

? ?-Paul


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 02:40 PM, Michael Herman wrote:
I apologize.
I'll drop out if this group now.
?
Michael


 

Hey Michael,

I just wanted to take a minute to thank you for the detailed write up you did (I think mainly for me:) about Jupiter imaging and processing a few weeks back.
I actually printed it out and have used it as my field goto guide, and since then, have gotten the best Jupiter imaging I have ever attempted.
Had it not been for your going way above and beyond, I would probably not be imaging planets at all.
I realize that I had not replied directly to that thread, and just wanted you to know that the effort you put into that great guide has helped me a LOT!

Thank You!
Astronut Tim





 

Thank you for your warmth and forgiveness, Paul.

I cannot forgive myself.??

Perhaps it is the short sleep cycle of imaging, processing images, or a twitchy Send finger.? But it is not the first time of such a mistake, and I must change my own behavior to protect our nice group from abuse.? I again apologize for my offense.??

Michael


On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 1:29 PM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote:
Michael,?

Accidents happen, and you did apologize. There's no need to leave the group. I've edited out the archives to remove anything personal but please let me know if I missed anything.

Regards,

? ?-Paul

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 02:40 PM, Michael Herman wrote:
I apologize.
I'll drop out if this group now.
?
Michael


 

Hi Michael,

With all the excitement I forgot say WOW! your images have come so far! Are these from the Edge HD14? What are you doing with the 12" ACF, has it been productive?? ?

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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?