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The price of used G11s has tumbled significantly over the last year or so with the newly updated G11G release. As you may discover older $492 digital drive G11 mounts are worth a lot less than the G11 Gemini 1 version on the used market. Assuming your G11 is in perfect cosmetic and mechanical condition and includes an HD tripod middle aged G11s like yours regardless of any extras installed on the mount that are now included as standard equipment realistically sell at around $1,400 or so. The problem is that a Gemini 2 is $1,600 and the HP worms and new OPW blocks are $550 and the tucked in motor upgrade is $300 and this requires the RAEXK at $300. If you do the math you will discover it's significantly cheaper to just buy a new G11G rather than to upgrade what you have which pushes the value of your older non-Gemini G11 mount down significantly.?

The thing is that ALL new G11Gs have EVERY upgrade feature as standard equipment now at basically the same price as a basic G11 cost 5-6 years ago. Scott has to have massaged his manufacturing process and polished the machining design significantly to offer all of this stuff for basically the same money!?

The point is that if you want or need all of the latest features just bite the bullet and sell you old G11 and buy the new G11G. If you liked your old #492 digital drive G11 mount you will love the G11G. The new G11G still has all of the good stuff that you love about the G11 and none of the stuff you wished Losmandy would do differently. Oh, and don't forget to ask about the new custom cases for the new G11G! ?

Chip

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I hear ya and does that include shipping?? ?LOL ? I guess I get what I get. ?Start high and go lower and lower. ? Wife gave me an ultimatum thanks to musical mounts, I need to sell my horded gear to fund this new mount. ?But I think its worth it if Im fiddling less and I get gemini 2 and a folding tripod. ?

Do you think their quality has gone down since including the upgrades as standard equipment? ? ?It looks like this new mount now has tucked motors as well. Has that design been problematic for them?

Thanks

Abraham

Yes, work it a bit and you should net $1,400-$1,500 if in good condition, complete with no broken or wonky stuff. Last summer I struggled with this question myself knowing what was coming from Losmandy in less than a year but my 15 year old G11 was in mint condition and I knew that it was capable of excellent tracking performance. So I kept it and updated the important parts and waited for Tanya to call me and tell me to pop in with the G11 for a the updates. Yes it cost me more but I had the use of the mount for the last year and knew what the worms in my mount were capable of and expected I to get similar performance with the G11G update. I can't complain as I tested my updated G11G with a 1600mm focal length OTA vs the usual 200mm fl guider using the same camera and software setup as before and the results were very similar, virtually identical actually.?

Oh I get it on the mounts and OTAs, I keep my office space picked up and as much as possible alls astro gear packed and out of sight to avoid any conversations about what she may have noticed, out of sight out of mind. This is an easy choice, clean it up and sell the G11 and buy a new G11G. Now that the G11Gs and other newline Losmandy mounts are available this will be the fastest way to get into the new mount and minimize any "mountless time."?

I have seen the oldest Losmandy mounts and the latest work from Losmandy's shop. Losmandy's QC is excellent and Scott's quality levels are quite high with no signs of going soft at all. I was concerned about the tucked in motors but those concerns were completely unfounded and my mount after the tucked in motor and other updates tracks and guides almost identically to pre-update levels. The G11 is a timeless mount and has been proven and improved over the last 25+ years. If anything Scott Losmandy's quality and surface finish levels have improved probably due largely to better design as seen on the new design OPW and some tool path work.?

Chip

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